mass is good but dont neglect PROPORTION thread.

[bigbadmadmanD]

im just sayin if i had lagging rear delts, i wouldnt stop training the other heads of the deltoids, i would just do my rear delts exercise first in the workout, when i got the most energy and the traps are fresh, and then move on to the other heads

 

[satchboogie]

im just sayin if i had lagging rear delts, i wouldnt stop training the other heads of the deltoids, i would just do my rear delts exercise first in the workout, when i got the most energy and the traps are fresh, and then move on to the other heads

wrong approach.

are you saying that you are the most powerful on the first exercises of a workout?

that's scientically unproven.

i dont know about you but when my energy level drops i simply end the workout.

by your apporach, you are strongest during the first part of the workout and when you start losing strength you move on to other muscle groups... dude.. that's wrong man!

 

[gmanlax7]

of course you are the most powerful on the first exercises of a workout

i can do a lot more pullups at the beginning of a back workout then i can at the end of one

 

[b fold the truth]

Re: Re: mass is good but dont neglect PROPORTION thread.

rear delt - never
abs - sometimes
lats - ??? are you kidding.. NEVER
hamstrings - never, never, never

You saying that you never train those muscles?

B True

 

[gmanlax7]

i think he was saying he never neglects them

 

[satchboogie]

of course you are the most powerful on the first exercises of a workout

i can do a lot more pullups at the beginning of a back workout then i can at the end of one

that's because the muscle is overloaded and cannot endure more stress.

but are you saying that after, lets say, a back workout, you cannot hit your biceps with high intensity?

 

[Thaibox]

I understand what you're saying needsleep, but I have to disagree. If a 160 lb guy has perfect proportions, I don't give a crap. He still looks like a scrawny 160 lb guy to me. But, if a 260 lb cut guy has lagging rear delts, I don't say "psshhh, what a wuss, look at those disproportionate rear delts."

If people are training hard to get big, they'd be very foolish to focus on such a small thing as"rear delts" or hams." Grow as big as fucking possible, then worry about that sculpting crap. I believe one of the main reasons people have such slow progress in the gym is because they waste their time focusing on specific body parts when their whole body actually sucks.

Grow until you squek through doors, then worry about proportion

 

[satchboogie]

I understand what you're saying needsleep, but I have to disagree. If a 160 lb guy has perfect proportions, I don't give a crap. He still looks like a scrawny 160 lb guy to me. But, if a 260 lb cut guy has lagging rear delts, I don't say "psshhh, what a wuss, look at those disproportionate rear delts."

If people are training hard to get big, they'd be very foolish to focus on such a small thing as"rear delts" or hams." Grow as big as fucking possible, then worry about that sculpting crap. I believe one of the main reasons people have such slow progress in the gym is because they waste their time focusing on specific body parts when their whole body actually sucks.

Grow until you squek through doors, then worry about proportion

no my friend. i must GROSSLY disagree!

you neglected to mention that the chances of injury are greater as one becomes stronger. and with that in mind, an unproportional muscle (like laggin rear deltoid for example) may be the cause for many injuries that are often experienced by bodybuilders and in particulary power lifters.

 

[gmanlax7]

that is a great qoute you ended with there thaibox, thats gonna be my new motto

satchboogie - after a hard back workout, i could hit my bi's with intensity, but not as intense as if i started off that workout with the bi's OR if i gave bi's their own day. I'm human and i get worn out, so i agree with the logic that if your prioritizing a bodypart's growth as your number one concern, you should prioritize it in the workout, too, and hit it when your freshest.

I strutted into the gym today to do deads, real fired up, but when it was over i crawled out of there. Get my point ?

 

[Thaibox]

but are you saying that after, lets say, a back workout, you cannot hit your biceps with high intensity?

I guarantee that that is the case.

Tomorrow go do 5 sets of deads, some rows, and chins....then tell me you can hit your bis with the same strength and intensity as you could fresh. No way. Where is your logic my man?