martial arts guys

[THeMaCHinE]

Let's see ... my phillipino MMA instructor punched me in the face twice and kicked me in the ribs once during sparring last week; I got some good hits on him too though.

I used to routinely get plenty of full contact damage in South Koren TKD and later, in boxing. I did a little Judo and that was tough too -- very tiring, and lots of mat burns and scratches -- the guard is cool though. I'd like to get back into it sometime and really learn ground fighting.

 

[SofaGeorge]

i routinely get the odd knock on the head or knuckles when going with weapons too. i need a thicker skull

Oh boy does that bring back a wonderful memory.

I had a total psycho teacher when I was in high school. The guy was as bad ass as they come... actually had a steel plate in his head. He didn't believe in doing anything halfway. Hence, when he did weapons training, i.e., disarming a guy with a knife - he made us use real knives. (Nowadays candyass classes use rubber knives.) His attitude was if we got cut a couple times it would teach us to be smart. I've got scars, lots of scars, on my hands and feet from f-ck ups in class.

The school was called Lung Ku. It was some wierd ass Chinese family style... really an ugly system... totally brutal... things like head butts to the face... graples to dislocate shoulders... all teh eye gouges.

He was right, though. Training with real knives taught us a lot faster than if we had been using rubber toys. You got better because you didn't want to get stitches.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Although not as extreme, that was the mentality of my South Korean TKD instructor. Used to nick us with swords, break boards over our heads, check our fingernails for grooming, make us run headfirst into the heavy bag, beat the piss out of us in sparring, etc.

 

[XBiker]

I bounced with a guy who was 6' 1", 165 pounds. He knew his shit. I grappled with him a few times and took classes under him for just a couple of months. Even though I was immensely more powerful and heavier than him, he would still get the better of me sooner or later when we squared off. It didn't bother me, because I was there to learn and if I could have kicked his ass with no training, I don't think I'd really want to be taking classes under him.

But yeah, it's amazing how much of an advantage a well trained person can have, even when up against someone much bigger.

Technique will always win over size and strength.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Technique will always win over size and strength.

Not always, but it sure does give the smaller guys a sporting chance at least

 

[danielson]

He was right, though. Training with real knives taught us a lot faster than if we had been using rubber toys. You got better because you didn't want to get stitches.

we use metal knives (kris).......they are dulled though!! real knives is f-ing hardcore!! i need my hands for the rest of my life so i dont think i could push it any further than i have, other than more controlled conditioning

 

[WarriorPL]

I got a huge beatdown once i got my blackbelt. I thought i was hot shit after i got it, then next class i got my ass beat by my sensai and another black belt to set me straight. I put up a good fight, but there was no chance.

 

[XBiker]

Not always, but it sure does give the smaller guys a sporting chance at least

95+ % of the time, the fighter with better skills, training and technique will win.

I personally saw a guy I use to roll with hand a heavy weight his first tournament loss ever.

Our guy was 165 or so. The heavyweight was 210 or better.

Middleweight knew better than to try and muscle him so he locked up with the guy, use big man's weight against him and beat him 1-0 (on points) with simple sweep.

It was beautiful. Everytime the big guy pushed, our gujy pulled. Everytime hoss pulled our guy pushed, posted, stepped and countered. The big guy was so used to throwing guys around he had no idea what to do when his own weight was used against him.

 

[catharsis]

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[SofaGeorge]

we use metal knives (kris).......they are dulled though!! real knives is f-ing hardcore!! i need my hands for the rest of my life so i dont think i could push it any further than i have, other than more controlled conditioning

It sounds horrifying... but in reality when you screw up you just get a nick or little slash... not any worse than you get cutting a tomato in the kitchen. You never got six inches of steel buried in your gut.

The only minorly bad one I've got is a scar across my foot where like a dumb ass I tried to kick the knife to disarm the guy. I learned something big that time. Kick the guy - not the knife.