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blaznmonke

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is it possible to get some gyno happnin through your cycle? if so should i take some noveldex while still on my cycle?
 
If you dont know the answer to this question, you should not be using steroids!

Of course it is possible, it is one of the most common side effects.

you need Nolv and an AI

let me guess, nothing lined up for PCT (post cycle therapy?)
 
ok, good.

run an AI the whole cylce like adex or aromian(sp)

then add the nolv if you feel any gyno symptoms
 
iam doin 200mg cyp 2cc a week , and t-bol 20mg week.

its not much but my nips are little sensitive and iam gettin abit of boobage happinin, its my first cycle and i didnt think i could get gyno while still on the cycle i thought it would start after.

and adex and aromian(sp) are they injections or oral, and is it just for stoping gyno from happning whats its main purpose.
 
adex, aromiasn(sp?), AIFM are all a class of AI(aromitase inhibitiors, aromitizing is when high levels of test turn to estrogen)

they are oral. you can get them from ag-guys.com or AIFM from AF store.

so they keep your high test levels from turning into estrogen and then gyno...
 
macrophage69alpha said:
use aromasin or AIFM during and after your cycle.

nolva is not a good protection against gyno, particularly if you are using progestins
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macro ... can anavar of dbol cause progesterone related gyno problems? or is that limited to tren, deca, a-bombs etc? thx
 
Roc86 said:
macro ... can anavar of dbol cause progesterone related gyno problems? or is that limited to tren, deca, a-bombs etc? thx
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anavar and dbol can cause other issues, they dont have known progestenic activity.

both increase IGF-1, which can cause gyno hyperplasia
 
gyno hyperplasia eh ... is that like prostate hyperlasia ? .. like just enlarging whats already there? what would warrant treatment for that? letro etc.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
if you have pectoral fat, yohimburn ES is also an option. Removal of fat will help to reduce local aromatization.
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yeah ... hes got some AIFM on the way for when hes done with the letro... the lumps do seem to be shrinking but the puffyness remains to the YES could be the final touch so to speak.
 
no macro its a very recent incident, and a mild case of gyno at best. It was just such a shocker to my bro who got it because he was running only 20mg of LTL var a day, and only got 12 days into it when he stopped and started nolva. Its even weirder because in the past hes done var onlys @40 mg ed with no problems, and even fooled around a couple years ago with some winny and even dbol with no issues. the guys never touched an anti-e in his life until now, and is really just trying to jump on the situation asap to avoid anything getting worse. As I said before, the nolvadex only seemed to aggrevate the problem so he dropped that and is now on letro. thx, Roc
 
most likely either the VAR is contaminated with other steroids or its another progestenic steroid substituted for VAR.

anavar is very expensive to synthesize and a lot of powder/raw material is being sold CHEAP. Some of it testing at 80%, other batches may just be substitutions. there are a lot of cheap steroids that have similar effects to anavar, at least superficially.
 
aside from anadrol what would be a progestinic oral?

Dbol seems like the lodgical choice with regards to cutting corners to me.
 
LOL No one noticed that he says he is running tbol at 20mg per week. Sorry bro, you should have learned some more before you started putting this stuff into your body. I am not trying to come down on you, but you really did not know enough to start. Gyno happens while on mostly, and you should run tbol at about 40mg ed for the first few weeks. Do not put things into your body if you do not know what they can do to you!
 
If I am reading correctly, gyno from 200 mg test/week? That's essentially close to a maintenance dose, man that sucks for you bro, especially if you go onto bigger & better things.

Stick around, learn and research a lot more before experimenting much further, you'll be glad you did. You can do more harm than good if you are very naive' about AAS.
 
Hey bro. Are you sure you're getting gyno? I know I absolutely FREAKED the first time I cycled because I thought I was getting gyno. It turned out to just be in my head.

You need to use adex or AIFM ASAP. Order some of that stuff and you'll be fine.

I'd also recommend you post up your next cycle and ask for people to take a gander at it. Never hurts to hear others opinions. Who knows, it might save your ass.
 
blaznmonke said:
is it possible to get some gyno happnin through your cycle? if so should i take some noveldex while still on my cycle?
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This question is like asking "If I threw a ball up in the air in a crowd of people, could it hit someone on the head? and if so should we wear hard hats?"
 
macrophage69alpha said:
accodring to the post he is doing 200mg twice a week (it also says 20mg tbol/week though guesssing thats actually per day)
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I would not assume he has the knowledge of appropriate dosages, simply based on the initial question alone! :p
 
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CO B-man said:
I would not assume he has the knowledge of appropriate dosages, simply based on the initial question alone! :p
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actually the gyno issue is a confusing one, much more so than dosages. because in truth why some people get gyno and others dont is somewhat a mystery. Yes there are predictive factors and yes some compounds are definitely worse than others, but there are so many factors that can have an impact as well as massive individual variations that its not exactly as simple as memorizing some basic cycle parameters 200mg of this and 20mg of that.

though agree just whether its possible is kind of indicative of lack of basic knowledge. or knowledge derived from "gym lore", since he though that you could only get gyno post cycle. its unfortunate how much bad information is out there, and when you have a 280lb guy a the gym that tells you something about gear, you would like to think that he knows what he is talking about.... but it just does not necessarily work that way.
 
zips92 said:
If I am reading correctly, gyno from 200 mg test/week? That's essentially close to a maintenance dose, man that sucks for you bro, especially if you go onto bigger & better things.

Stick around, learn and research a lot more before experimenting much further, you'll be glad you did. You can do more harm than good if you are very naive' about AAS.
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I gained and kept 15lbs on 250mg/wk
205 - > 220

PF
 
macrophage69alpha said:
actually the gyno issue is a confusing one, much more so than dosages. because in truth why some people get gyno and others dont is somewhat a mystery. Yes there are predictive factors and yes some compounds are definitely worse than others, but there are so many factors that can have an impact as well as massive individual variations that its not exactly as simple as memorizing some basic cycle parameters 200mg of this and 20mg of that.

though agree just whether its possible is kind of indicative of lack of basic knowledge. or knowledge derived from "gym lore", since he though that you could only get gyno post cycle. its unfortunate how much bad information is out there, and when you have a 280lb guy a the gym that tells you something about gear, you would like to think that he knows what he is talking about.... but it just does not necessarily work that way.
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That is exactly why I used the analogy of a crowd of people. Could it hit someone in the head? Yes! Will, it hit everyone in the head? No! Should we take some protective measures like where a hard hat? Yes! It was a very very basic question I thought that one or two searches with a platinum member search privelage could not only easily answer but see that what happens to one does not always happen to two! but a question like will I get gyno or can I get alone is understandable but also a simple answer which is basically "well that simply depends on you and your body alone!" Me no I am not prone to gyno (At least not yet and with the compounds I have used) I will not use deca for that reason alone at least not for now. Someone else? well some people get it if you simply say the word?
 
the crowd analogy was a good one, the post was more directed toward the general lack of understanding and good amount of misinformation regarding gyno. Hence while his question was not researched, it was based on poor information (he beleived that gyno only occurred after cycle)... soemthing that is unfortunately quite prevalent... that is also something that needs to be addressed. Because no one should begin a cycle with that kind of poor information, information they beleive to be good.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
the crowd analogy was a good one, the post was more directed toward the general lack of understanding and good amount of misinformation regarding gyno. Hence while his question was not researched, it was based on poor information (he beleived that gyno only occurred after cycle)... soemthing that is unfortunately quite prevalent... that is also something that needs to be addressed. Because no one should begin a cycle with that kind of poor information, information they beleive to be good.
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True cause he could be shopping for bras in the lil misses section in the first few weeks of his cycle and if he is not prepared to deal with it he may be shopping there for quite a while. Maybe Kramer and Mr Costanza were on to something when they were inventing the Bro/Manzier! May have an marketable idea in here! :think: LOL!
 
CO B-man said:
True cause he could be shopping for bras in the lil misses section in the first few weeks of his cycle and if he is not prepared to deal with it he may be shopping there for quite a while. Maybe Kramer and Mr Costanza were on to something when they were inventing the Bro/Manzier! May have an marketable idea in here! :think: LOL!
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:p
 
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