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i have fooled myself my whole life. i thought it is possible for people to be true friends. to always be there, thick or thin. same as i believed people could fall in love. to have and to hold, until death do us part.

biggest lie in the world.

people are out for number one. even the ones you think love you. even the ones who you think are your friends. everyone is a fair weather friend, or a fair weather love, to some degree.

guess im just bitter right now. person i love most in the world told me how much she loved me while she walked away, towards greener pastures. i suppose i should thank her for enlightening me.

to all the random people i have helped in life and/or over the internet, i apologise for helping propagate the myth that to do good unto others will mean that good is done unto you. forgive me for leading you to believe that there are truly good people in the world. karma is just a bunch of little green dots.

i would appreciate, if anyone sees me say something helpful on this board or others, to tell me to stop bullshitting myself and others, and get with it. get off the net, get off your arse, and help yourself, because thats all you have.
 
You have some good points, you're not entirely correct, but close, just learn from these people, let them be an example of how not to treat others.
 
you made me think of this..

Code: 
Summer time and the wind is blowing, Outside in lower Chelsea.
And I don't know what I'm doing in this city,
The sun is always in my eyes,
it crashes through the windows, And I'm sleeping on the couch,
When I came to visit you,
That's when I knew, I could never have you,
I knew that before you did,
Still I'm feeling stupid,
And there's this burning, Like there's always been,
I've never been so alone, And I've never been so alive.
Visions of you on a motorcycle drive by,
Cigarette ash flies in your eyes, And you don't mind, And you smile,
And say the world doesn't fit with you.
I don't believe you, You're so serene.
Careening through the universe, Your axis on a tilt, Guiltless and free,
I hope you take a piece of me with you,
And there's things I'd like to do that you don't believe in,
I would like to build something, You know it's never going to happen,
And there's this burning, Like there's always been,
I've never been so alone, And I've never been so alive,
And there's this burning, There is this burning.
Where's the soul. I want to know, New York City is evil.
The surface is everything, but I could never do that,
Someone would see through that.
And this will be the last time, We'll be friends again.
I'll get over you and you'll wonder, Who I am.
And there's this burning, Like there's always been,
I've never been so alone, And I've never been so alive,
I go home to the coast. It starts to rain, I paddle out, On the water Alone,
Taste the salt and taste the pain. I'm not thinking of you again,
Summer dies and swells rise, The sun goes down in my eyes, See this rolling wave, Darkly coming to take me, Home,
And I never been so alone, And I've never been so alive.
 
havoc said:
You have some good points, you're not entirely correct, but close, just learn from these people, let them be an example of how not to treat others.
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no. an example of how to treat others. everyone in the world is just something else i can use.

i am the nicest guy i know. honestly. not lying, or blowing my own trumpet. all it got me was used. need someone to talk to? im there. need some advice? im there. need a connection? im there. need to borrow something? sure. no more. no fucking more.

fuck you hollywood, fuck you walt disney, fuck you all.

you want something? fucking pay for it. you got problems? what the fuck does that have to do with me. how do you use hcg? i dont fucking care. stick it up your ass.

"oh golden, you are the most beautiful person i know"

yeah well i guess that just aint enough, huh. get on your knees and fucking blow me, then get the fuck out, and take your shit with you.

nothing to offer me = no interest. fuck off.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
no. an example of how to treat others. everyone in the world is just something else i can use.

i am the nicest guy i know.

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I thought you were a female all this time, sorry.
 
You are not bitter, you are right.

You can choose to A fool yourself into believing in bullcrap which might make you feel good, just like using drugs every day will make you feel good

B Face reality and live with it
 
havoc said:
I thought you were a female all this time, sorry.
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dont be sorry. sorrow is just another bullshit emotion. you arent really sorry, youre just saying you are. what the fuck am i supposed to so with your sorrow? i dont fucking care. but if it makes you feel better to say it, go for it. just dont hassle me with this shit.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
yes.


cant do what dont exist. love is a literary device. a fairy tale. at best, the misnamed dependence one person has on another.

keep this cliched bullshit the fuck out of my face. sell that shit to someone else
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I love you. And by love I mean suck me off.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
yes.


cant do what dont exist. love is a literary device. a fairy tale. at best, the misnamed dependence one person has on another.

keep this cliched bullshit the fuck out of my face. sell that shit to someone else
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For something that is just a literary device it sure has you worked up?
 
GoldenDelicious said:
yes.


cant do what dont exist. love is a literary device. a fairy tale. at best, the misnamed dependence one person has on another.

keep this cliched bullshit the fuck out of my face. sell that shit to someone else
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You know, i used to think you were an intelligent person.

Stop being a bitch and just deal with it.
 
One thing I've learned:

The more you give, the less grateful they are.
 
crew9 said:
For something that is just a literary device it sure has you worked up?
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im annoyed that i was sucked in for so long. i wasted a lot of time, energy, and labour that could have helped ME.

if you arent going to make me feel good, youre useless to me, so get out of my face.
 
Fina Junkie said:
You know, i used to think you were an intelligent person.

Stop being a bitch and just deal with it.
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i am an intelligent person. im not being a bitch. i have dealt with it.

i have a few insults lined up but i might regret it when this morphine wears off. i might need you later on, so i dont want to get you off side.
 
havoc said:
I thought you were a female all this time, sorry.
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lol
I did too!
Perhaps there use to be a F beside gender at some point.




GoldenDelicious said:
im annoyed that i was sucked in for so long. i wasted a lot of time, energy, and labour that could have helped ME.

if you arent going to make me feel good, youre useless to me, so get out of my face.
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Is that you in your avatar?
 
GoldenDelicious said:
i am an intelligent person. im not being a bitch. i have dealt with it.

.
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You might be right about the first part, I don't know you so I don't really know, but you definitely are acting like a bitch and you haven't dealt with it.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
dont be sorry. sorrow is just another bullshit emotion. you arent really sorry, youre just saying you are. what the fuck am i supposed to so with your sorrow? i dont fucking care. but if it makes you feel better to say it, go for it. just dont hassle me with this shit.
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I'm sorry you feel this way
 
GoldenDelicious said:
i am an intelligent person. im not being a bitch. i have dealt with it.

i have a few insults lined up but i might regret it when this morphine wears off. i might need you later on, so i dont want to get you off side.
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let the insults fly bro.

I don't give a damn. It's the internet
 
not my style. im very angry just now. disregard everything i say except the first post.

apologies to anyone i pissed off. im annoyed but i shouldnt act like a cunt to people.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
cant do what dont exist. love is a literary device. a fairy tale. at best, the misnamed dependence one person has on another.

keep this cliched bullshit the fuck out of my face. sell that shit to someone else
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Bro, I felt the same way the first time that I was "really" hurt, I though it was the ned of the world. I also thought it was all bullshit and told myself that I would never let anyone that close to me again, that way, I couldn't get hurt. Well, as time goes by, you heal and then more time goes by and goddam, suddenly, somehow, some else in your life. And you know what, it feels great, that is until its over, but you will learn to cope and heal and each time the healing process is shorter and you learn to get on with your life only to repaet the cycle over and over unti lyou settle with some one or become a bitter loveless old man.

You're not the first one to go through this and you will not be the last one. Nothing anyone here can tell will make the hurting any less, only time and a strong mind can do that for you. Keep your chin up and cowboy up buddy, this is life.
 
Due been there done that too many times, but as life goes on I got over it, and found a new friend that restord my faith in people and women believe it or not, we just won't fuck it up by doing anything.
 
Taps said:
Are you basing this on your experiences with one particular individual? Most likely a girl?
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no, i have been burnt by pretty much everyone important to me in my life. the latest one happened to be a girl, and held a special place in my heart. your suggestion has all sorts of juvenile boy-girl implications. this isnt about breaking up or any of that, its about trust being betrayed at a fundamental level for questionable gains. fickle, hurtful, unjust.

sorearms: i have been through all sorts of breakups, im usually not too fazed. for me to explain this one to you a little further would involve exposing too much of my personal life. im not about to do that.

i might be a little abrasive for a while. not sure how long.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
i have fooled myself my whole life. i thought it is possible for people to be true friends. to always be there, thick or thin. same as i believed people could fall in love. to have and to hold, until death do us part.


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If you (one person) thought this was true, then it is, because if one person believes it, then another could as well.
 
Real sorry about that man. Love is the greatest thing in the world and the thing that can bring you the most pain. Keep your head up, it will come again.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
not my style. im very angry just now. disregard everything i say except the first post.

apologies to anyone i pissed off. im annoyed but i shouldnt act like a cunt to people.
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With that attitude you'll never make a bitter shut in.

Secondly, just because you largely cannot rely on people 100% of the time doesn't mean you can't rely on them 98% of the time. Families stay together when one is convicted of child molestation, friends share secrets that would get them beaten up or harassed with strangers. Relying on people 100% to always be there is dangerous but assuming everyone is an asshole 100% of the time isn't good either.

Remember when i told you pharmacists in the US made about $40 an hour? i did that just because i assumed aussie pharmacists maybe made closer to $25 an hour, i was trying to inform you of how you could make money. I did that for no reason other than to help you, i didnt stand to benefit from it at all. True, im not going to be there (no one is) 100% of the time, but at the same time the opposite view strikes me as more dangerous than being dependent on people to view you as their most important thing.
 
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GoldenDelicious said:
i have fooled myself my whole life. i thought it is possible for people to be true friends. to always be there, thick or thin. same as i believed people could fall in love. to have and to hold, until death do us part.

biggest lie in the world.

people are out for number one. even the ones you think love you. even the ones who you think are your friends. everyone is a fair weather friend, or a fair weather love, to some degree.

guess im just bitter right now. person i love most in the world told me how much she loved me while she walked away, towards greener pastures. i suppose i should thank her for enlightening me.

to all the random people i have helped in life and/or over the internet, i apologise for helping propagate the myth that to do good unto others will mean that good is done unto you. forgive me for leading you to believe that there are truly good people in the world. karma is just a bunch of little green dots.

i would appreciate, if anyone sees me say something helpful on this board or others, to tell me to stop bullshitting myself and others, and get with it. get off the net, get off your arse, and help yourself, because thats all you have.
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love/friendship - that is all but a concept designed to categorize and materialize oneself in the scope/eyes of others. once you abstract yourself from this intrinsically intuitive attachment to others you're considered socially inadequate, especially in the US - the country of extroverted majority with smiling grimaces and contempt at heart. How you perceive yourself in this dychotomy of personal and conventiona is what really matters - subscribe to absurdism (with me :) )


elite anarcho syndicalist association!
 
GoldenDelicious said:
cant do what dont exist. love is a literary device. a fairy tale. at best, the misnamed dependence one person has on another.

keep this cliched bullshit the fuck out of my face. sell that shit to someone else
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Boo Hoo...you whine because you have not been granted the end that people desire, as if it should simply fall from the sky or that you are entitled to this end, and when you don't receive what you believe is yours, then you become the victim of a "cruel joke", a lie told to children. Bah. You are becoming more foolish than you thought you were.

Such ends are virtues, they are values that man desires, "what ought be"; they are ends that require effort and are not his by right, they are the rewards for his actions. Contemplate a world where man did not strive for what he desires, not merely accepts what he has, and tell us how good such a world sounds? Is wealth not real, since so many do not acheive it? Is happiness not real, since so many are unhappy? Is justice not real, since it has been denied to so many?

Get out of the pity phase and learn from this lesson.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
i would appreciate, if anyone sees me say something helpful on this board or others, to tell me to stop bullshitting myself and others, and get with it. get off the net, get off your arse, and help yourself, because thats all you have.
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One of my best friends has a saying, he's had it for years and I don't know where he got it from, but the more I live the more I see just how amazingly true it is:

The dick always goes somewhere.

It's his colorful way of saying "if you aren't fucking someone else, then you are getting fucked yourself".

The meaning is that every human act is selfish. Love, friendship, greed, hate, they are all names we give to feelings and it's all made of people either taking advantage of someone else or getting taking advantage of themselves. I love my wife because she makes me happy and I want her to keep making me happy. I have many old friends and I want to keep them as friends because I like them, they remind me of good times and help me when I need help. I go to work every day because I need money to pay the bills and buy things. All of these things make me happier, I have them in my life because I want them.

When I married my wife I royally upset an ex-girlfriend who wanted to desperately get back together with me. My choice to love my wife made my ex miserable for a long time. I have one friend who I no longer talk to because he still has a social high-school mentality, and he backstabbed me too many times out of spite. He's "changed" now and wants to reconcile, but I do not want to because another one of my friends hates him, and I do not want to lose the good friendship for someone who I can't trust anymore. My choice of friends hurts others. Six years ago I quit a job to work where I do today for more money. My leaving was a huge blow to the company, they never did find a good replacement for me. They closed a year later, not entirely due to my leaving but it played a large part as I started a kind of exodus. My greed not only hurt a company and business owner, but all of his employees as well.

If you look at every choice close enough, you can discern a selfish reason for it, no matter what the situation is. Sometimes it is a subtle selfish act, sometimes it's more than subtle. More importantly, many selfless acts are returned in kind by someone else taking advantage of it. When someone sees an opening to better their own life, they usually take it even if it hurts another person in the process. Thus, you GF leaving you for greener pastures, even though she thinks you are "the greatest guy in the world". If she truly thought that, she wouldn't be looking for something else somewhere else.

The key to both life and happiness is IMHO this: learn when to make your own selfish goals a priority; and learn when to put them aside, thereby opening yourself up to possibly be hurt.

The sad situation in this human world is that sometimes you are better off helping yourself than helping others. The trick is to know when to sieze your chances and when to give the chance to someone else. In the end we are all pursuing our own happiness, it's just human instinct.
 
atlantabiolab said:
Boo Hoo...you whine because you have not been granted the end that people desire, as if it should simply fall from the sky or that you are entitled to this end, and when you don't receive what you believe is yours, then you become the victim of a "cruel joke", a lie told to children. Bah. You are becoming more foolish than you thought you were.

Such ends are virtues, they are values that man desires, "what ought be"; they are ends that require effort and are not his by right, they are the rewards for his actions. Contemplate a world where man did not strive for what he desires, not merely accepts what he has, and tell us how good such a world sounds? Is wealth not real, since so many do not acheive it? Is happiness not real, since so many are unhappy? Is justice not real, since it has been denied to so many?

Get out of the pity phase and learn from this lesson.
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Jesus, must you be such a dick to people?
 
atlantabiolab said:
Boo Hoo...you whine because you have not been granted the end that people desire, as if it should simply fall from the sky or that you are entitled to this end, and when you don't receive what you believe is yours, then you become the victim of a "cruel joke", a lie told to children. Bah. You are becoming more foolish than you thought you were.

Such ends are virtues, they are values that man desires, "what ought be"; they are ends that require effort and are not his by right, they are the rewards for his actions. Contemplate a world where man did not strive for what he desires, not merely accepts what he has, and tell us how good such a world sounds? Is wealth not real, since so many do not acheive it? Is happiness not real, since so many are unhappy? Is justice not real, since it has been denied to so many?

Get out of the pity phase and learn from this lesson.
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Beat me too it.

I think that everyone's understanding and appreciation for their relationships would improve if they could understand that nobody owes them anything.

If someone is your friend it is only because they want to, they do not owe you their friendship, or love.
 
Tiervexx said:
Beat me too it.

I think that everyone's understanding and appreciation for their relationships would improve if they could understand that nobody owes them anything.

If someone is your friend it is only because they want to, they do not owe you their friendship, or love.
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Even though i somewhat agree with this, there are better ways to state it than just verbally abusing people for letting others know they had something bad happen to them.
 
nordstrom said:
Even though i somewhat agree with this, there are better ways to state it than just verbally abusing people for letting others know they had something bad happen to them.
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Please...this thread was not a detailed vocalization of Golden's problem, it was a childish attack on virtues and values, all because Golden didn't get what he wanted. Because he got hurt he is going to denounce the idea of "love" and "friendship", as if their existence was contingent upon him attaining them; wake the fuck up. I reject his assertion because I can demonstrate the existence of friendship and love in numerous instances.

Aesop's Fables "The Fox and its Tail" should be read to all children as a teaching against such beliefs.
 
GoldenD, i'm currently recovering from some bullshit as well. It's taking some time, but I'm finally realising that it was bullshit... You got to think of it like this, gal who boots you is fukking up. It's her fukking loss dude...she'll realise it, but it will be too late, cause you'll be with someone else. It takes women a while to realise this, but they always do. Men suffer immediatley, and recover quick...women suffer latter, and for longer...hang in their pimp





fuk it. Back pack a bag of stolen pills (xanax, vicodin, addarall, and valium) and take a walkabout...isn't that what aussies do? ;)
 
atlantabiolab said:
Please...this thread was not a detailed vocalization of Golden's problem, it was a childish attack on virtues and values, all because Golden didn't get what he wanted. Because he got hurt he is going to denounce the idea of "love" and "friendship", as if their existence was contingent upon him attaining them; wake the fuck up. I reject his assertion because I can demonstrate the existence of friendship and love in numerous instances.

Aesop's Fables "The Fox and its Tail" should be read to all children as a teaching against such beliefs.
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He will not spend his life like this, this is just a temporary reaction to a bad event. True this could be a good learning experience but you could have pointed that out in a much less haughty and belligerent fashion.
 
nordstrom said:
He will not spend his life like this, this is just a temporary reaction to a bad event. True this could be a good learning experience but you could have pointed that out in a much less haughty and belligerent fashion.
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If I thought that he was 12, then maybe I would have addressed this differently, but Golden has stated that he is a pharmacist, thus I assume he is at least late 20's, unless he is Doogie Howser. Because of this, I will not partake in wiping his ass, a simple blunt to the point response is all that is needed.
 
atlantabiolab said:
If I thought that he was 12, then maybe I would have addressed this differently, but Golden has stated that he is a pharmacist, thus I assume he is at least late 20's, unless he is Doogie Howser. Because of this, I will not partake in wiping his ass, a simple blunt to the point response is all that is needed.
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Your response wasn't constructive. What do you think will happen when you insult someone for not thinking the way you do, that they will back down and agree? Thats not how the world works, you should know that. You could've pointed your views out in a less haughty fashion, but you chose to present them in as abusive a fashion as you could. Your true motives (haughtiness and arrogance) are obvious. If you wanted to help anyone you could've done so differently.
 
I've been abandoned by good friends, and your right. Nobody is truly loyal, with only family being the exception.
 
nordstrom said:
Your response wasn't constructive. What do you think will happen when you insult someone for not thinking the way you do, that they will back down and agree? Thats not how the world works, you should know that. You could've pointed your views out in a less haughty fashion, but you chose to present them in as abusive a fashion as you could. Your true motives (haughtiness and arrogance) are obvious. If you wanted to help anyone you could've done so differently.
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What am I "Dear Abby"? When did I state that I was posting to help anyone? I posted as a response against the childish assertions being presented in this thread. Don't like it, don't accept it, but there is no requirement that posts be reduced to "self-help" rhetoric.

You have every right to make whatever statements you desire, but you have no right to the type of response you will receive. Live and learn, people.
 
atlantabiolab said:
What am I "Dear Abby"? When did I state that I was posting to help anyone? I posted as a response against the childish assertions being presented in this thread. Don't like it, don't accept it, but there is no requirement that posts be reduced to "self-help" rhetoric.

You have every right to make whatever statements you desire, but you have no right to the type of response you will receive. Live and learn, people.
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its common courtesy. True you don't 'owe' it to people to be constructive or polite, but it is effortless to do so and preferred. Live and learn yourself, continue to treat people like this and you will alienate people and make enemies. If that is what you want, feel free i guess.
 
nordstrom said:
Your response wasn't constructive. What do you think will happen when you insult someone for not thinking the way you do, that they will back down and agree?
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I've done that myself a few times. even though I might now admit to agreeing with them during the argument I will change my mind later if they really had any reason.
 
GD that really sucks, especially after reading some pms we discussed, thats is just shit that she would turn and walk away like that!You two were together for a good while is that correct?

RADAR
 
atlantabiolab said:
Boo Hoo...you whine because you have not been granted the end that people desire, as if it should simply fall from the sky or that you are entitled to this end, and when you don't receive what you believe is yours, then you become the victim of a "cruel joke", a lie told to children. Bah. You are becoming more foolish than you thought you were.

Such ends are virtues, they are values that man desires, "what ought be"; they are ends that require effort and are not his by right, they are the rewards for his actions. Contemplate a world where man did not strive for what he desires, not merely accepts what he has, and tell us how good such a world sounds? Is wealth not real, since so many do not acheive it? Is happiness not real, since so many are unhappy? Is justice not real, since it has been denied to so many?

Get out of the pity phase and learn from this lesson.
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blow me.

your view of the world is not the same as mine. you have assumed much to make that reply, and you were insensitive about it. use for atlantabiolab = zero.

get out of my face.

for the guys out there who are being nice, thanks. its not doing you any good, so i suggest you stop and do something better with your time, but still, thanks.

for the "life isnt meant to be easy" crowd, fuck off. save that shit for someone else. i dont care how tough you guys had it, or how you have to strive blah blah fucking blah. we are jsut a bunch of animals. we dont HAVE to do anything. life isnt MEANT to be anything. so stop talking shit.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
blow me.

your view of the world is not the same as mine. you have assumed much to make that reply, and you were insensitive about it. use for atlantabiolab = zero.
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You are on a fucking message board, man, get over yourself. "insensitive"? Do you really think that anyone gives a shit about the persona on the other end of the web?

get out of my face.

for the guys out there who are being nice, thanks. its not doing you any good, so i suggest you stop and do something better with your time, but still, thanks.

for the "life isnt meant to be easy" crowd, fuck off. save that shit for someone else. i dont care how tough you guys had it, or how you have to strive blah blah fucking blah. we are jsut a bunch of animals. we dont HAVE to do anything. life isnt MEANT to be anything. so stop talking shit.
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Now get back to stroking your vagina, Nancy boy.
 
axiombiologicals said:
You are on a fucking message board, man, get over yourself. "insensitive"? Do you really think that anyone gives a shit about the persona on the other end of the web?



Now get back to stroking your vagina, Nancy boy.
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Nice impression for a newbie! Welcome to Elite--Now learn some MANNERS!

RADAR
 
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