Looks like I'm going back to Court. Yesterday was very interesting - long ass read, you better be bored to get into this.

[jh1]

Yesterday turned out to be a very odd day.

I got some information earlier this week and it was confirmed yesterday. I confronted my x about it and then her boyfriend started threatening me. I talked to my attorney and he recommended we file for two orders of protection on Monday - he's requesting an emergency hearing for Monday for a order of protection for a minor (my daughter), and a is filing for an order of protection for an adult (me).

He told me to file a police report as follows:

On Friday, November 30th at approximately 6:15pm I received a call from ((Xwif))'s cell phone, when I answered a person identified themselves as (Steve) - ((Xwif))'s boyfriend. '(Steve)' told me that what I had said about him was defemation and that if I bring him into my situation that there would be serious repercusions that I would suffer. I told him that he was in fact a convicted drug dealer and that if he wanted to sue me for saying so, he was welcome to. Further that he was not to have any contact with my daughter - and not that I need to explain myself but that her mother has an on going drug problem, that they have been dating since March and that she has tested positive for drugs 3 times since March, that he was a convicted drug dealer and that I was (Daughter)'s sole custodian. He then warned me that bringing him into this wouldn't be in my best interests because he knows 'a lot of people that know how to fight' - I terminated the call at this point.

(EDIT) (I redacted a few sentences here that go to this guy's means - lets just say he definetly knows a lot of very skilled fighters and thugs)

Earlier in the week I learned that (Xwif) was still seeing (Steve), was living with him and was bringing my daughter around him. ((Xwif)) told me that she cut all ties with people that used drugs, so when I found out about my daughter still being exposed to (Steve) - I confronted her and she claimed that he never used drugs and doesn't drink. I looked up '(Steve)' and found out that he was indicted on four charges of selling, distributing or dispensing narcotics with three other people and plead it down to one count. When I found this out, which was earlier in the day on this same Friday, I told (Xwif) he was a convicted Felon and a Drug Dealer and that our Daughter was not to be around him. Her response was "You're just mad because (Daughter) loves him. I get it. Lol. Must hurt."

After I terminated the phone call with (Steve) he began sending me messages from (Xwif)'s phone.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
6:28pm
If u arent big enough to talk or meet u dont need to waste your time hiding behind a text. I reached out 2 u and u hid. Shows your character... (Steve)

(JH1) to (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
6:33pm
Oh you got me, tough guy. Ill bet my life youre all talk. Or will you bring it on with your lawsuit? Lol. Gonna have some fighters come beat my ass? I guess we will see what you are made of.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
6:36pm
Is your phone broken?

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
6:39pm
Lawsuit lol? looking forward to interacting with u.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
6:45pm
Or do u only like to intimidate little girls? I tried to treat u like a man... My mistake. Hope you understand I push back.

(JH1) to (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
6:48pm
Perhaps you would like to define interact? Lol. Either that is a Vieled threat or you want to hold my hand. Lol at you questioning my charater- when your the drug dealer AND you know every other dealer in the area. 15 years? How do you know all those dealers then, (Steve)? And no, my phone is not broke. Aparently yours is or you wouldn be hiding behind (Xwif)s phone.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
6:56pm
No (JH1) those r your dealers. I know what u bought, what bank account and atm u took the money out of where u party now. And how much u drink (and drive). I know where you live, where you work, where you get coffee in the morning.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
6:57pm
I have friends from (township where JH1 lives) to dubai. I thought we should talk and had a common interest. U wanted my attention u got it.

(JH1) to (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:02pm
Hey (Steve), you are not the first dealer (Xwif) has had threaten me. I am used to it. So stand in line. I am impressed with your friends. I have been to Dubai have you? They execute drug dealers there. They don't Fuck around.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:04pm
Hope u enjoy your next trip

(JH1) to (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:04pm
I didnt want your attention. You called me.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:05pm
I know u have thats y i mentioned it.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:09pm
(XWif)'s problems are because of you. She's a young girl.

(JH1) to (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:16pm
Yeah its my fault. Hey (Steve), (Xwif) tell you about the bonafide drug dealers she dated before we even met? One was also her sisters boyfriend. Ask (E-boy) about it. Both are in federal prison now. I recognized my mistakes and stopped- i tried to get her clean as well. She couldnt be stopped. And who the Fuck are you to lecture me on young girls? Holy shit. (Note: (Steve) is 5 years older than me)

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:32pm
(JH1) we both agree on (Xwif)'s status. If u r straight i'm glad. I'd like 4 u AND (Xwif) to b there for (Daughter).

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:33pm
if u want 2 talk criminal then lets c how tough u r locked up. U want 2 use your job lets how long u have it. U r a drug user maybe u r clean today but u also have a public record. U still dwi, doesnt matter whether lucas or vegas. U r touchable.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:33pm
U and i will probably never b friends. I really dont care. U want o fuck with me b ready i know how u fight u might want 2 b sure u know how i play.

(JH1) to (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:42pm
Your threats are exhausting. You got something you wanna do then do it, but for gods sake shut the Fuck up already. I have not threatened you. I have no idea what you are talking about with my job, jail, public record, etc. Sounds like you got a case of verbal diareah because I do not understand what you are trying to say.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
7:58pm
Let me make this simple.
1. U brought me into your game with (Xwif).
2. I dont respect u.
3. U did drugs recently (while u had a child).
4. I have no problem taking everything u care about away from u.
5. if u fuck with me or put me in the middle of your shit i will not waste any more time texting. Its on.
6. i want (Xwif) clean and i hope u do also.

(JH1) to (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
8:05pm
You don't respect me? Youre a convicted drug dealer who Fucked my wife and hung out with her while she did drugs and i watched our 1 year old daughter. Your going to take what i have? Go for it. Or shut up about it. And listen, johnny come lately, dont act all nobel witi your i want to save her act. I tried to save her as well.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
8:20pm
I dont tolderate drug use. I checked her dealer. im having the feds rolup her little drug friend. I'd invite u 2 watch. If u want 2 talk or meet let me know.

From (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
8:20pm
I know what i did, who i am and what i am capable of. U act self righteous. Clean at work dirty at night.

(JH1) to (Steve) via (Xwif)'s Phone
8:44pm
You go from threatening me to saying you want to hang out. Your all over the map. I know where i went wrong and i corrected it. You have your hands full with your girl. (Xwif) brought (Daughter) around her drug abusing boyfriend less than 10 weeks after we wed, so this is not a new problem for me. He was only a user, you have a felony record for selling drugs, she has a problem. That's a conflict. You dont have to respect me, but you had damn well better respect my decision. Thats all there is to it. If i find out you step foot near my daughter i will have an order of protection slapped on you. If you want to have some fighter thugs beat my ass go for it. Gaurantee your door will be the first place the cops show up.

 

[jh1]

Oh and he's also filing a motion in family court monday to start the process to remove any visitation the x-wif has, so I'll be back in front of the Divorce / Custody judge to have him hear that matter as well very soon.

 

[puddlemonkey]

I'm totally going to read that.... brb

 

[puddlemonkey]

But while you're waiting you should donate all your k to me.

 

[MichaelScott]

holy mackeral he sounds psycho

 

[Smurfy]

damn
this dude is a drug dealer currently? or was that something he was convicted of in the past?

 

[swole]

Re: Looks like I'm going back to Court. Yesterday was very interesting - long ass rea

don't ever fucking stop doing everything in your goddamn power to rid all the scumbag turds from your baby girl's life because having a good dad like you is all she needs and i'll be damned if i hear anything less than you have most, if not all, custody of the child

 

[puddlemonkey]

Typical of pussy drug dealers, all bark no bite.

 

[jh1]

Smurf:

The conviction was from '96, I don't know if he is still involved with distributing drugs - but the case file on PACER is huge and involved years of undercover investigations and three other local people that were brining drugs into the country for local distribution to dealers.

When he was on the phone with me - he rattled off the names of all the dealers in the area - the same ones I know - so at the very least he knows these people.

The real thing that kills any innocence for me is that they have been together since March and she has tested positive three times since then...

Typical of pussy drug dealers, all bark no bite.

Ya. I hope so, if there is anyone that has the means - this guy does.

 

[string_bean00]

good luck bro, that shit sucks

 

[Smurfy]

i thought all the ex-wifs visits with your daughter are supposed to be supervised by her Mother?

 

[rnch]

1. your ex is a lost cause.


2. you MUST protect your daughter at ALL costs.



i know you already understand this and are ready to do what has to be done.

 

[jh1]

i thought all the ex-wifs visits with your daughter are supposed to be supervised by her Mother?

They are.

The x is allowed to transport her to/from daycare/me - and I've allowed her leeway in the past during the day for trips to the store, etc - but the visitation is supposed to be supervised by her mother or step-father. What 'supervised' means is very vague - it isn't defined in the decree other than to say that 'all overnight visits are to be at a place where a designated supervisor is present'.

My understanding is that my daughter got to know this guy before we were divorced and there wasn't a supervision requirement in place. He also comes around my daughter around my x's mother - but I doubt she knows that he's a convicted drug dealer.

 

[Smurfy]

They are.

The x is allowed to transport her to/from daycare/me - and I've allowed her leeway in the past during the day for trips to the store, etc - but the visitation is supposed to be supervised by her mother or step-father. What 'supervised' means is very vague - it isn't defined in the decree other than to say that 'all overnight visits are to be at a place where a designated supervisor is present'.

My understanding is that my daughter got to know this guy before we were divorced and there wasn't a supervision requirement in place. He also comes around my daughter around my x's mother - but I doubt she knows that he's a convicted drug dealer.

Wel since the Ex's Mother is the one charged with supervising, I'd want her to know your concerns as the sole custodian/
She is a party to what's going on.

 

[jh1]

Wel since the Ex's Mother is the one charged with supervising, I'd want her to know your concerns as the sole custodian/
She is a party to what's going on.

Yeah this all went down late afternoon / last night. I was gonna call her last night after my daughter went to sleep, but I decided to cool it - I was pretty worked up.

I might call her today when she takes her nap. I feel bad that they are always put in the middle of this, and I feel foolish calling and telling on the x to her. Besides that, if we go full bore to remove all visitation - it doesn't matter anyway.

I suppose I will call her and tell her that my daughter is not to be around him and that he is a convicted drug dealer and has been threatening me. I just know the coversation is going to devolve from there into the fact that the x is fucking up by hanging with him, etc...

 

[silverstar1025]

Re: Looks like I'm going back to Court. Yesterday was very interesting - long ass rea

don't ever fucking stop doing everything in your goddamn power to rid all the scumbag turds from your baby girl's life because having a good dad like you is all she needs and i'll be damned if i hear anything less than you have most, if not all, custody of the child

What he said! You are a wonderful father and i hope you daughter always knows what a blessing you have been to her!!

 

[gonelifting]

subscribed....i'll read it later.

 

[ponyfitness]

Re: Looks like I'm going back to Court. Yesterday was very interesting - long ass rea

Jesus man I can't imagine going through all this crap, especially just to keep your daughter safe and away from druggies. My eternal respect.

 

[Smurfy]

I think you're doing the right thing (obviously) with not wanting this douchebag around yoru daughter.

However, IMO you engaged this guy way too much. You dont have to explain yourself to him for why you are making this decision. You only have one thing to say to this guy: I dont want you around my daughter, end of story.

Beyond that, you shouldnt let him get you into a tit for tat, and you did this but you did this kind of thing. Youve got better things to do than waste your time and effort communicating with this guy. I'd ignore him from this point forward.

 

[eddymerckx]

lets just say he definetly knows a lot of very skilled fighters and thugs

jhl introduce him to your friends--Mr Sig, Mr. Sauer, and Madame Hollow-Point

 

[jh1]

I think you're doing the right thing (obviously) with not wanting this douchebag around yoru daughter.

However, IMO you engaged this guy way too much. You dont have to explain yourself to him for why you are making this decision. You only have one thing to say to this guy: I dont want you around my daughter, end of story.

Beyond that, you shouldnt let him get you into a tit for tat, and you did this but you did this kind of thing. Youve got better things to do than waste your time and effort communicating with this guy. I'd ignore him from this point forward.

Totally agree.

I am like a child in that sense.

I do the same thing with just about anyone over anything.

I am easily baited and drug down into the most retarded debates.




Called her mother as well - while lil was napping. She was 100% on board - she had no idea that he was a convicted felon / drug dealer - the X didn't even tell her about her recent failed drug test. I am glad I had the coversation - I just feel bad they are caught up in this nonsense.

 

[bw1]

Typical of pussy drug dealers, all bark no bite.

Exactly. If he was going to do something he would of already done it, not sent it in a "text message" that can e saved. lol

 

[Cal_21]

Re: Looks like I'm going back to Court. Yesterday was very interesting - long ass rea

Exactly. If he was going to do something he would of already done it, not sent it in a "text message" that can e saved. lol

lol. Seriously.


P.s. Good luck JH. I'm sure eventually the judge will see your daughter belongs with you. I hope it's sooner rather than later too.

 

[jh1]

Re: Looks like I'm going back to Court. Yesterday was very interesting - long ass rea

lol. Seriously.


P.s. Good luck JH. I'm sure eventually the judge will see your daughter belongs with you. I hope it's sooner rather than later too.

I already have full custody. She has supervised visitation per my good graces. I am the sole custodian - as my lawyer says 'JH1 is in charge'.

 

[Cal_21]

Re: Looks like I'm going back to Court. Yesterday was very interesting - long ass rea

I already have full custody. She has supervised visitation per my good graces. I am the sole custodian - as my lawyer says 'JH1 is in charge'.

That's good to hear orb.

Hope this thing with "Steve" gets resolved in a favorable manner for you.

p.s. I will punch him in the spine for karma

lol jk

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Dam I read that all I hope things go your way J I am pretty sure they will they have thus far. Your ex makes me ill just thinking about what she is pissing away all the time with that sweet little girl of yours. At least JH2 has you one hell of a great father.

 

[FriendlyCanadian]

Jh1, you're a good dad, and all that other stuff swole said. =)

 

[chewyxrage]

Damn man. Good luck in court, I don't see there being any issues with getting a protection order. This guys sounds like a tool, albeit possbily dangerous.

Like smurf said, don't fuckin waste time communicating with this guy. All those texts, just a waste of time. You don't want to provoke him into doing something stupid, either. Let your lawyer do the talking.

 

[all the whey]

No use in debating with him. He has no Idea what is going on.

She is telling him you got her hooked, your taking her daughter, your taking everything from her, etc.

He will believed it because she is giving him pussy, and he will have to play hero.


Everytime my friends go anywhere we always here some broad telling how bad her husband, boyfriend, ex, etc is. It makes me sick. I am glad I don't believe them anymore.

 

[gonelifting]

Holy shit. This is like a movie.

First, JH1, you're a good father, man! Keep fighting. Much props and respect to you.


I do agree with Smurfy. I'm a man of few words. Let them figure it out after the fact. As long as I gave the words, they'll eventually put 2 + 2 together. Speak softy... and get results. Period. But I understand the emotion involved. No one is in your shoes. You're doing good considering...

Personally, I would fear these threats. These people have nothing better to do with their time. It's their life, their lifestyle, the people they know do these things. etc... So I wouldn't just brush it off. Just be carefull. Stay safe.
You're a smart guy, you know what to do, especially with staying on the right side of the law doing it.

OT question, How do you pay the lawyer? Is it per hour, per phone call, per case? Weekly? Monthly? You seem to pick up the phone and call him out of the blue, and he gives you legal advise. How does that work out in terms of his fee? thanks.


Good luck man! The biggest reward is your daughter growing up healthy and happy from all of this.

 

[binö]

that guy is a loser and obivously your ex should have zero contact with your daughter
butbutbutbut
i do see a bit of hypocrisy
you demand that she live clean but the question is do you live 100% clean?

 

[jh1]

OT question, How do you pay the lawyer? Is it per hour, per phone call, per case? Weekly? Monthly? You seem to pick up the phone and call him out of the blue, and he gives you legal advise. How does that work out in terms of his fee? thanks.

Arms & Legs bro.

My fees for the divorce exceeded 20k. I will get billed for the recent phone calls and subsequent actions as well.

I don't know what hte xwif's attorney costed, but I know she didn't pay a dime - her father paid for it all. Pissed me off - cause he was just sitting at home drunk not even knowing what's going on just paid the bills as they came in. She had no concience as for as how much money was wasted on fees - because she wasn't paying / working for that money etc... garr...

With this go around - we'll see... right now her and her father are on the outs, I wouldn't be suprised if this 'reunites' them though.

 

[rnch]

quoting my father: "never complain, never explain....just do what you gotta do".

 

[jh1]

that guy is a loser and obivously your ex should have zero contact with your daughter
butbutbutbut
i do see a bit of hypocrisy
you demand that she live clean but the question is do you live 100% clean?

I am tested for the NIDA-5 every three months, a hair follicle test. I have been 100% clean since Sept. '06.

 

[binö]

I am tested for the NIDA-5 every three months, a hair follicle test. I have been 100% clean since Sept. '06.

meh, you know were this convo is gonna go so i'll stop now.

 

[jh1]

meh, you know were this convo is gonna go so i'll stop now.

LOL.... so I hardly ever drink now - I drink with clients, and I even drink socially on occasion. I drank to excess in Vegas, and I've hit a few spots in STL - but it's very rare for me these days. I have my hands full with other stuff.

 

[jnevin]

I'm with Smurfy on you wasting too much time going back and forth with the douchebag. You almost seem to enjoy that drama.

 

[jh1]

I'm with Smurfy on you wasting too much time going back and forth with the douchebag. You almost seem to enjoy that drama.

I think I might.

I find a million reasons to justify it, but in the end it's all nonsense....

 

[jnevin]

I think I might.

I find a million reasons to justify it, but in the end it's all nonsense....

I probably would have baited him to a degree too, knowing I would win. It's just looking from the outside in, it seems like a poor decision if the guy's the douchebag he seems he could be.

You're in a hard situation. Almost seems you'd be better off moving to a different state away from that past life.

 

[Smurfy]

Yeah this all went down late afternoon / last night. I was gonna call her last night after my daughter went to sleep, but I decided to cool it - I was pretty worked up.

I might call her today when she takes her nap. I feel bad that they are always put in the middle of this, and I feel foolish calling and telling on the x to her. Besides that, if we go full bore to remove all visitation - it doesn't matter anyway.

I suppose I will call her and tell her that my daughter is not to be around him and that he is a convicted drug dealer and has been threatening me. I just know the coversation is going to devolve from there into the fact that the x is fucking up by hanging with him, etc...

Just dont let the conversation go down that road. make it plain and simple and make it clear you're letting her know what's going on because she is responsible for supervising the visits. she has a right to know this guy's history as well as your plan to make sure this guy isnt allowed in your daughter's presence. She's got to know what the rules are and why. that's all.

dont even get into a convo about the ex and how shes fucking up, etc because frankly neither you nor the exs Mother have any control who the ex hangs out with or what she chooses to do in her personal life. You do have control over your daughter's safety and well being and you are entitled to take measures to make sure she's safe/

 

[jh1]

Just dont let the conversation go down that road. make it plain and simple and make it clear you're letting her know what's going on because she is responsible for supervising the visits. she has a right to know this guy's history as well as your plan to make sure this guy isnt allowed in your daughter's presence. She's got to know what the rules are and why. that's all.

I talked to her yesterday. She cried. I can't talk to her like a robot and be cut and dry - she's the sweetest most real, most caring woman I've ever met in my life.

The x had lied to her about the results of her test in early November - so she found out about that during our coversation as well. I felt so bad for her - she loves her daughter so much... and loves her granddaughter.

Jnevin -

I constanly think about moving away, see what I wrote above about the mother in law... she's the only reason I stay. 4 Real.

 

[Smurfy]

I talked to her yesterday. She cried. I can't talk to her like a robot and be cut and dry - she's the sweetest most real, most caring woman I've ever met in my life.

The x had lied to her about the results of her test in early November - so she found out about that during our coversation as well. I felt so bad for her - she loves her daughter so much... and loves her granddaughter.

Jnevin -

I constanly think about moving away, see what I wrote above about the mother in law... she's the only reason I stay. 4 Real.

That really is sad and its a tough situation. Lucky for you and your daughter that this woman cares so much.