Looking for some cutting advice

[staylifted]

New here, so hello everyone. Here’s my dilemma, I’m seven weeks into a fifteen week cut. Started at 192 down to 185. Holding muscle well. However, every morning I wake up hard AF. Then after my first meal I start to look flat and watery. By night I’m a soft ball of crap. Wake up next day, hard AF again! Pumps are great but short lived. What’s going on?

I’m 5’ 10”. Currently holding 15% BF. Goal at end of cut is at least 12%. Calories are at 2,150, very low card, low-moderate fats. Everything tracked and weighed. Very consistent.

Currently training weights five days/wk, two heavy compound days and three speed days with bodybuilding movements thrown in. I mix it up. Fasted cardio 45 mins six days a week.

Any ideas on why the meals are setting me off for the day? Never experienced this before. Several years ago I was able to get sub par 12%, muscular, full abs, without any issues.

Diet, not that it really matters, is mainly chicken, eggs, some whey powder, sweet potatoes, cauliflower rice, avocados, and almond butter. I don’t believe it’s food related. Possibly digestive issues but everything feels normal except when I look in the mirror.

 

[stevesmi]

your diet looks clean except they whey powder. drop that and it will help.

what happens is when you eat your stomach gets inflamed. my suggestion is eat later in the day and eat in a window. try doing a 2-6pm eating window

i love your diet otherwise but you need more fruits and veggies man. fruit is very important due to its fiber content and that will help too. the 80's lie that fruit is bad, fruit is sugar blah blah blah has been proven wrong. fruit is not only full of fiber but also vitamins, electroylytes, water, and minerals

 

[staylifted]

your diet looks clean except they whey powder. drop that and it will help.

what happens is when you eat your stomach gets inflamed. my suggestion is eat later in the day and eat in a window. try doing a 2-6pm eating window

i love your diet otherwise but you need more fruits and veggies man. fruit is very important due to its fiber content and that will help too. the 80's lie that fruit is bad, fruit is sugar blah blah blah has been proven wrong. fruit is not only full of fiber but also vitamins, electroylytes, water, and minerals

Forgot to mention I actually have 1/2 cup of cut cantaloupe with every prework meal. Also the cauliflower rice gets me going. To that bathroom that is. Also have a boatload of vitamins I take I didn’t bother to mention. I’m pretty dialed in, but always open to advice!

Good call on the whey. Thanks. I’m gonna nix it for extra egg whites. I also do a Chipotle style marinade with the chicken. Could be all the spices, peppers too?

Also today I did better post meals. I’m thinking now I’m wooshing out fat so the pre squish to that process is what I might of been experiencing. You would think five weeks in I’m post that. But a stubborn metabolism compared to my last major cut could be a factor. Gonna keep pushing along, eye on the prize.

 

[the_alcatraz]

New here, so hello everyone. Here’s my dilemma, I’m seven weeks into a fifteen week cut. Started at 192 down to 185. Holding muscle well. However, every morning I wake up hard AF. Then after my first meal I start to look flat and watery. By night I’m a soft ball of crap. Wake up next day, hard AF again! Pumps are great but short lived. What’s going on?

I’m 5’ 10”. Currently holding 15% BF. Goal at end of cut is at least 12%. Calories are at 2,150, very low card, low-moderate fats. Everything tracked and weighed. Very consistent.

Currently training weights five days/wk, two heavy compound days and three speed days with bodybuilding movements thrown in. I mix it up. Fasted cardio 45 mins six days a week.

Any ideas on why the meals are setting me off for the day? Never experienced this before. Several years ago I was able to get sub par 12%, muscular, full abs, without any issues.

Diet, not that it really matters, is mainly chicken, eggs, some whey powder, sweet potatoes, cauliflower rice, avocados, and almond butter. I don’t believe it’s food related. Possibly digestive issues but everything feels normal except when I look in the mirror.

welcome to EF family!

well I can 100% tell you that diet matters big time

when you list your items its hard to know what you're eating

what we need from you is a LOG journal of your
diet
training
cycle

just start posting a log here

tell us your meals 1 by 1 and we'll help you sort thru them and get you harder

check other logs guys have done on EF
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/my-contest-cycle-log-1507439.html
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/lymes-cycle-log-1507649.html

 

[ceo]

bros meals matter big time, post your Log for us to see and we will help

 

[ROIDDERS]

meals matter for bloating etc
can you post a LOG for us?

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro get on ranch food diet

 

[Quadsweep]

as a competitor I can safely say diet is everything
so meals really matter big time
please post up a LOG with your diet and training and cycle in detail

 

[Ulter]

cutting advice will start when you tell us your meal plans in a LOG
I cant say but seems your meal intake and macros way off

 

[2Thick]

its in your diet i bet, LOG+

 

[e2]

please get a log up I want to see detailed diet

 

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[weightlover]

This is what i usually do:
1 Drink 4-5 litter water every day
2 Add a salad to your lunch and dinner
3 Try to detox your body 2 times a week

 

[staylifted]

Ok guys, here’s my food plan. Nothing special, pretty standard blan BB diet. *Meal five had whey protein powder but replaced today with the egg whites.

Meal 1
60g steel cut oats
5 servings of liquid egg whites, two yolks, or 20g almond butter.

Meal 2
150g chicken breast
100g white rice (cooked)
1 Serving of pico de gallo (salsa)
1/2 avocado

Meal 3 (pre workout)
60g cream of rice
21g raw honey
1 Greek yogurt

Meal 4
1/2 Cup cantaloupe
150g chicken breast
1pkg cauliflower rice
1 Serving pico de gallo

Meal 5
5 liquid egg whites
20g almond butter
1 medium sweet potato


204g carbs
51g fat
201g protein
2,141 calories

My OP has my cardio and training routine.

 

[SteveMobsterG]

its in your diet i bet, LOG+

Agreed plus it's kinda normal

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Tell us more about your diet, training and gear you are using

 

[staylifted]

Tell us more about your diet, training and gear you are using

Ok guys, here’s my food plan. Nothing special, pretty standard blan BB diet. *Meal five had whey protein powder but replaced today with the egg whites.

Meal 1
60g steel cut oats
5 servings of liquid egg whites, two yolks, or 20g almond butter.

Meal 2
150g chicken breast
100g white rice (cooked)
1 Serving of pico de gallo (salsa)
1/2 avocado

Meal 3 (pre workout)
60g cream of rice
21g raw honey
1 Greek yogurt

Meal 4
1/2 Cup cantaloupe
150g chicken breast
1pkg cauliflower rice
1 Serving pico de gallo

Meal 5
5 liquid egg whites
20g almond butter
1 medium sweet potato


204g carbs
51g fat
201g protein
2,141 calories

My OP has my cardio and training routine.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Try changing your diet timings and see if it helps........

 

[staylifted]

Try changing your diet timings and see if it helps........

I took the protein powder out and things improved. Not 100% if that was it or time and the diet kicking in. Still holding some fat in my chest which is throwing things off as my arms and shoulders are looking good. Goona be patient, still have seven weeks to go.

 

[RoySimpson]

Diet is the most important in my opinion!

 

[the_alcatraz]

Ok guys, here’s my food plan. Nothing special, pretty standard blan BB diet. *Meal five had whey protein powder but replaced today with the egg whites.

Meal 1
60g steel cut oats
5 servings of liquid egg whites, two yolks, or 20g almond butter.

Meal 2
150g chicken breast
100g white rice (cooked)
1 Serving of pico de gallo (salsa)
1/2 avocado

Meal 3 (pre workout)
60g cream of rice
21g raw honey
1 Greek yogurt

Meal 4
1/2 Cup cantaloupe
150g chicken breast
1pkg cauliflower rice
1 Serving pico de gallo

Meal 5
5 liquid egg whites
20g almond butter
1 medium sweet potato


204g carbs
51g fat
201g protein
2,141 calories

My OP has my cardio and training routine.

this explains it all pretty much

your carb intake is way too high and you need to replace the rice period

cut carbs to under 100 grams per day
and increase fats and protein with those calories

i would replace 1 chicken breast with fatty steak to get the extra calories in to start

cut the rice out completely cut sweet potato
really get carbs low and you'll see your bloating go down fast

are you cycling? steroids or sarms?

 

[staylifted]

this explains it all pretty much

your carb intake is way too high and you need to replace the rice period

cut carbs to under 100 grams per day
and increase fats and protein with those calories

i would replace 1 chicken breast with fatty steak to get the extra calories in to start

cut the rice out completely cut sweet potato
really get carbs low and you'll see your bloating go down fast

are you cycling? steroids or sarms?

Ok I’m gonna try that, thanks. Rice was only at 100g (cooked) 1x a day before workouts but I don’t need it.

As far as sweet potatoes, I actually do not enjoy them so thats an easy fix.

Steak, red meat in general, for me is something I have to be careful of. I get diverticulitis flare ups when I eat it. I can probably do 3-4 oz a day. Usually not worth it so I stick to chicken. I can do Salmon for something more with more fats?

No cycling, no SARMS, just HRT (9 yrs) Test Cypionate 200mg/wk, Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg/wk. Anastrazole 1mg/2x wk. No sides. Full labs every six months.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Ok I’m gonna try that, thanks. Rice was only at 100g (cooked) 1x a day before workouts but I don’t need it.

As far as sweet potatoes, I actually do not enjoy them so thats an easy fix.

Steak, red meat in general, for me is something I have to be careful of. I get diverticulitis flare ups when I eat it. I can probably do 3-4 oz a day. Usually not worth it so I stick to chicken. I can do Salmon for something more with more fats?

No cycling, no SARMS, just HRT (9 yrs) Test Cypionate 200mg/wk, Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg/wk. Anastrazole 1mg/2x wk. No sides. Full labs every six months.

why do you need rice? you should minimum use brown rice not white rice

salmon is fine with fats but you need more nuts and oils like flaxseed and walnuts

HRT test cyp 200mgs and deca 200mgs thats NOT HRT that's Sports TRT almost a cycle imo

you need to log your diet and training closely here

what changes did you make already?

 

[staylifted]

why do you need rice? you should minimum use brown rice not white rice

salmon is fine with fats but you need more nuts and oils like flaxseed and walnuts

HRT test cyp 200mgs and deca 200mgs thats NOT HRT that's Sports TRT almost a cycle imo

you need to log your diet and training closely here

what changes did you make already?

Actually I said I didn’t need the rice.

As far as my HRT protocol, are you a doctor? In any case, one can speculate and repeat things they’ve seen or read. But truthfully labs don’t lie.

I originally started nine years ago at 100mg of test cyp. My total testosterone when I started was under 200 and the “standard” clinical dose just wasn’t enough. Thankfully I had the right doctor who wanted things better for me. 100mg of test only brought me up into the 500’s. My doctor wanted me optimal and quickly bumped me up to 175mg which put me at the 1,000 mark.

Three years later due to a prior cervical fusion (C6-C7) and several lumbar nerve deadening procedures stemming from an on the job accident and an MVA which were greatly hindering my training, my doctor introduced the nandrolone decanoate. Due to that change the test cyp was tweaked to 200mg. Labs were great. Since then I’ve been having the best labs in over twenty years! Again, labs don’t lie.

Oh, I had one scare last year when a high PSA showed up. Turned out to be a case of prostatitis (infection) A course of antibiotics brought it right back down into the normal range. Apparently I missed the symptoms as I was also dealing with covid.

As far as which changes I made, the only thing I did was cut the carbs to just under 100g a day and up the protein. Everything firing on all cylinders now. That watery layer of fat on my waist and chest is gone. I appreciate all the help here.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Actually I said I didn’t need the rice.

As far as my HRT protocol, are you a doctor? In any case, one can speculate and repeat things they’ve seen or read. But truthfully labs don’t lie.

I originally started nine years ago at 100mg of test cyp. My total testosterone when I started was under 200 and the “standard” clinical dose just wasn’t enough. Thankfully I had the right doctor who wanted things better for me. 100mg of test only brought me up into the 500’s. My doctor wanted me optimal and quickly bumped me up to 175mg which put me at the 1,000 mark.

Three years later due to a prior cervical fusion (C6-C7) and several lumbar nerve deadening procedures stemming from an on the job accident and an MVA which were greatly hindering my training, my doctor introduced the nandrolone decanoate. Due to that change the test cyp was tweaked to 200mg. Labs were great. Since then I’ve been having the best labs in over twenty years! Again, labs don’t lie.

Oh, I had one scare last year when a high PSA showed up. Turned out to be a case of prostatitis (infection) A course of antibiotics brought it right back down into the normal range. Apparently I missed the symptoms as I was also dealing with covid.

As far as which changes I made, the only thing I did was cut the carbs to just under 100g a day and up the protein. Everything firing on all cylinders now. That watery layer of fat on my waist and chest is gone. I appreciate all the help here.

well HRT aka TRT you can look this up is 100mgs to 150mgs testosterone/week max (thats like FDA doses)

so 200mgs test 200mgs deca is called sports TRT
its cool hommie, this is a steroid forum I'm all good with sports trt no matter what, i use a lot of gear myself

i'd like to see more of your training, hows is your training and cardio?

and you said you cut the carbs hows the new meal plan going? post it

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Overall looks good so I can only think the whey like was already mentioned

 

[staylifted]

well HRT aka TRT you can look this up is 100mgs to 150mgs testosterone/week max (thats like FDA doses)

so 200mgs test 200mgs deca is called sports TRT
its cool hommie, this is a steroid forum I'm all good with sports trt no matter what, i use a lot of gear myself

i'd like to see more of your training, hows is your training and cardio?

and you said you cut the carbs hows the new meal plan going? post it

All good. I’m proud of my enhancements so I guess I can be a little protective of them. I’ve received some flack from folks thrashing it, talking out of their ass, etc.. Not you, basically ill informed people. Plus, nandrolone gets an underserved bad rap. For the right candidate it offers some amazing benefits, all meant to promote wellness. I do very well on it. Absolutely no sides.

My diet is the same as first posted. The only change I made was cutting out the rice and sweet potato. I replaced those cals with more protein by adding a 100g of chicken and an extra Greek yogurt. I don’t do well with red meat (diverticulitis flare ups) But i’m trying to incorporate 4-6oz of ribeye steak a week. I tried it for the first time last night and I’ll see how it goes.

My training is difficult to show because it’s flexible. The guys I train with are power lifters and they have a meet the end of this month they’re prepping for. We’ve been doing a modified Westside routine, 3 heavy days and two speed days, incorporating bands on some movements.

Personally I’m more interested in bodybuilding. Good thing for me is one of the guys took the title of Mr. Florida years ago so he still holds some passion for BB. Because of that some BB movements are thrown in once the core movements are completed. Sometimes for shoulders and arms I’ll do my own thing. Training is hardcore.

Cardio as mentioned, is a 1 hr fasted walk on the beach 5 days a week. I live down South so it’s year round.