Looking for Programming Suggestions like Ross Enamait's Programs...

[texas.redneck]

I was googling to research this and came across some posts on this website with individuals that seemed to be familiar with Ross Enamait's programming. He has a few popular ebooks; Infinite Intensity, Never Gymless, full throttle conditioning, etc. His workouts are geared towards fighters but I really like them for two reasons; (1) they are well rounded strength and conditioning and (2) they are minimalists as in I can use the squat rack and stuff I have in my garage.

My only problem is I've burned through several variations of his programs now over the past 5-7 years and I'm looking for a new and fresh template to follow. Anyone have some other suggestions for some webpages or books I can hunt down that will lay out a 50-60 day template I can generally follow?

 

[texas.redneck]

I know there are lots of crossfit pages that posts WOD's but I really don't consider those programs really well rounded or thought out very well over the course of 60 days. Even if they are, I have to scroll through 60 blog posts to get the full program which is a pain in the rear. I also have to make a lot of substitutions for Crossfit WOD's because they tend to have lots of pulls from the floor (i.e. snatch, cleans, deadlifts) that I've had to reduce from my program due to low back disc degeneration.


Also, when I say minimalists and low tech I should mention that I've collected quite the garage gym over the years. I have squat rack, pull up bar, bumper plates, multiple barbells, adjustable dumbells, TRX suspension training, monster bands, mini-bands and so forth....

 

[stevesmi]

we talked about this on PM's.. i think finding a local crossfit gym with a really good trainer is a good option. those classes really push you since its peer pressure

 

[texas.redneck]

we talked about this on PM's.. i think finding a local crossfit gym with a really good trainer is a good option. those classes really push you since its peer pressure

I don't disagree with you but I'm really into my garage gym at the moment. I got a dog back in December (she's like 7 months old now). So she keeps me motivated to get up at 5:15am every morning and hit up my garage gym from 5:30 to 6:30 while she hangs with me on guard duty or chewing some bones. I have a nice bluetooth speaker bumping sports talk or music and recently got a deal on an airdyne bike on Craigslist that I've been enjoying for warmups and intervals. This along with the rest of my garage gym loadout I've collected over the years (squat rack, bumpers, barbells, various bands, TRX suspension, adjustable db's, slam balls, etc. etc.).

So having the 50 day overall plan like Ross's that is all laid out with some rhyme and reason is nice to have. And something that isnt' just stupid 90s bodybuilding....lol. I've been using search engines and I still just come across these articles with pictures of guys doing cable flys and workouts that tell you to do bent over lateral raises. Like come on now, haven't we all moved on from the 90's Joe Weider Muscle and Fitness workouts?? LOL>

 

[SteveMobsterG]

I was googling to research this and came across some posts on this website with individuals that seemed to be familiar with Ross Enamait's programming. He has a few popular ebooks; Infinite Intensity, Never Gymless, full throttle conditioning, etc. His workouts are geared towards fighters but I really like them for two reasons; (1) they are well rounded strength and conditioning and (2) they are minimalists as in I can use the squat rack and stuff I have in my garage.

My only problem is I've burned through several variations of his programs now over the past 5-7 years and I'm looking for a new and fresh template to follow. Anyone have some other suggestions for some webpages or books I can hunt down that will lay out a 50-60 day template I can generally follow?

Is there any reason why you can't write a program for yourself?

 

[texas.redneck]

Is there any reason why you can't write a program for yourself?

I basically do but I like a foundation to start with. For example, for warmups I have my own mobility, corrective movements, dynamic stretch program that I do. Ross is a big fan of dumbbells and I tend to like barbells and kettlebells more, so I modify and swap out a bunch of exercises for those. I work around degenerative disc in my low back so make appropriate substitutions there with a couple of the lifts and I do sprints on Airdyne mostly.

It's just nice having the initial 6-12 week plan with some rhyme and reason that I can then make into my own.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

I have done a bunch of different programs in the past from guys like Stoppani and Gethin. What I do is just take what I like from each one and make my own. Another thing I like to do is switch up my routine every 6 weeks or so to keep it interesting so I am never really following an exact program.

 

[texas.redneck]

I have done a bunch of different programs in the past from guys like Stoppani and Gethin. What I do is just take what I like from each one and make my own. Another thing I like to do is switch up my routine every 6 weeks or so to keep it interesting so I am never really following an exact program.

Exactly, this is what I do just try to change it up every few months. I go through phases of group classes or bodyweight (gymless) or my current phase is I'm really into my garage gym. I just like to get the base routine that I can change up how I like it. I'll check out the Stoppani and Gethin names you mentioned.

 

[texas.redneck]

Ok I checked out those guys Stoppani and Gethin. They are definitely classic bodybuilders. Not exactly what I was going for. Ross Enamait is truly Strength and conditioning (as in training for real athletes not bodybuilding). However, I'm actually thinking about getting back into just plain old bodybuilding split routines like this because I think they may be easier on my body than always trying to knockout full body strength days and followed by these mad intense 10-20 min conditioning days (burpees, sledgehammers, pushups, slamballs, etc.). I think I'm getting to old for all that and a nice boring back/bi's, chest/tri's, legs split might be nice on my body.

I have done a bunch of different programs in the past from guys like Stoppani and Gethin. What I do is just take what I like from each one and make my own. Another thing I like to do is switch up my routine every 6 weeks or so to keep it interesting so I am never really following an exact program.

 

[texas.redneck]

@SteveMobsterG and @MasonicBodybuilder

But Yeah I see where you all are coming from now thinking who is this idiot that can't even figure out his own routine. Sure if we're talking basic bodybuilding splits that's simple. I just need to know what rep range I'm training in that week (i.e. 10+ reps, 8 reps, 4-6 reps) and then, divvy up my bodyparts into the training split for the week (leg day, back/bi's, chest/tri's, shoulders), pick 2 base compound exercises per day (i.e press, squat, deadlift variation) and then pick 3 or 4 ancillary exercises.

That's easy to just do on the fly week to week. Coming up with a good well rounded STrength and conditioning routine is more complex putting all the training pieces together and keeping it new and exciting.

 

[SteveMobsterG]

@SteveMobsterG and @MasonicBodybuilder

But Yeah I see where you all are coming from now thinking who is this idiot that can't even figure out his own routine. Sure if we're talking basic bodybuilding splits that's simple. I just need to know what rep range I'm training in that week (i.e. 10+ reps, 8 reps, 4-6 reps) and then, divvy up my bodyparts into the training split for the week (leg day, back/bi's, chest/tri's, shoulders), pick 2 base compound exercises per day (i.e press, squat, deadlift variation) and then pick 3 or 4 ancillary exercises.

That's easy to just do on the fly week to week. Coming up with a good well rounded STrength and conditioning routine is more complex putting all the training pieces together and keeping it new and exciting.

That's BS. I've books going back to the 1900's and famous lifters of yesteryear made fortunes from creating programs (training by mail).

And 90% came down to KISS and creating a program which works what you, the lifter, want to work.

It sounds to me like you want others to be your guide vs taking charge yourself. That's fine - PT's would be out of work without guys like you.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

You can definitely hire a coach to take all the guesswork out of training. There are plenty of people who just like to "do" and not have to worry about building plans.

 

[texas.redneck]

It sounds to me like you want others to be your guide vs taking charge yourself. That's fine - PT's would be out of work without guys like you.

You say it with a tone like that's a bad thing. I'm almost 39. I been doing my program for two decades basically since I was 19 years old with some breaks in between where I've done the group class thing or spent some money on personal trainers. I always told myself I'd never pay a trainer because my bookshelf was stuffed with more books than some punk 25 year old trainer would ever read. But then I worked at a company that subsidized $500 a year I could spend on trainers and gyms and stuff so I did a trainer.

So what's wrong with a middle life aged guy who finally got to a place where he has some disposable income to spend and just wants a break from 2 decades of figuring stuff out himself?

 

[texas.redneck]

So since you all were so constructive, Here's what I came up with on my own:

I liked this mountain tactical website guy in Wyoming who had a lot of programming and he even designed programs for guys ages 45-55 where he took out a lot of the bar loaded back squats and replaced with various lunges and other alternatives and took out traditional deadlifts for RDL's --both of which I've found are necessary substitutions due to my degenerative disc in low back.

What I ended up doing was just taking this guys template and making my own variation that I'm going to follow for 4-6 weeks:


His template was very similar to Ross Enamait's but with a little more emphasis on strength/bodybuilding versus conditioning (Enamait is in the business of training fighters).

 

[SteveMobsterG]

So.. to be clear.. you proved me wrong by doing what... saving the company 500 bucks and doing it yourself?

I've never had a coach as such (a rival and mentor maybe) and only had training partners now and again and yet I've been British Champion 4x and European Champ 2x (I'm competing in another European championships this weekend).

See I figure that a guy with your stats and your experience is almost certainly as experienced and qualified as 90% of the PT's in most gyms. I say that someone who qualified back in the day with two different organizations. You ARE correct when you say that it's nice to be able to pay someone else to do it for you. But you came on here to ask and I'm still waiting on the cheque to come in the post

I'm not sure what a cheap PT certification might cost you but maybe spend the 500 bucks on one?? One thing I got from my courses was structure and teaching technique clarification.

 

[texas.redneck]

Yes I proved you wrong by doing it myself....lol. For the record, I never said I wanted to be spoon fed (you assumed that). I just said I wanted to find a new base template to work with because I was burnt out on Ross Enamait's.

I noticed my link got killed in my post above so you didn't actually see the link to the program template I used. It was a template in a Brad Borland muscle and fitness article called Tactical Physique that I think came up when I googled "functional strength and conditioning programs". He gave one weeks worth of programming and said repeat 10x....lol. I took it. Tweaked slightly and have just been updating week to week and making swaps for exercises (like if it was heavy bench the week before I go for heavy OH press the following week). As a matter of fact, I just got done doing next weeks program (starts tomorrow saturday) and printed it. .

So yeah you are right, I ended up doing my own because I'm never going to find some 6 weeker laid out just like I like it.

So.. to be clear.. you proved me wrong by doing what... saving the company 500 bucks and doing it yourself?

I've never had a coach as such (a rival and mentor maybe) and only had training partners now and again and yet I've been British Champion 4x and European Champ 2x (I'm competing in another European championships this weekend).

See I figure that a guy with your stats and your experience is almost certainly as experienced and qualified as 90% of the PT's in most gyms. I say that someone who qualified back in the day with two different organizations. You ARE correct when you say that it's nice to be able to pay someone else to do it for you. But you came on here to ask and I'm still waiting on the cheque to come in the post

I'm not sure what a cheap PT certification might cost you but maybe spend the 500 bucks on one?? One thing I got from my courses was structure and teaching technique clarification.