Looking for Honest Answers and Help. No Hijacking!

[corbin980]

Here is the deal, I have searched forum after forum looking for answers and hopefully someone here will have the answer or where to get the answer I desire.

First off.
32 Yr Old.
220LBS 245LBs before Androgel
5'8"
BF 20% .

Year ago or so I underwent LOW T Thearpy with Androgel for 7 Months. Before that I had Testosterone of 300 to 400. After AndroGel and DMSO to help passage my Test was in the 900 Range for one month. Everything else was just normal range.. I felt great and with working out I started to lose a lot of my fat and harden my muscles. Since then I have been able to keep the fat off and maintained what little I gained. Recently I had felt like crap again and noticed changes in libido and Etc. Went to Doctor and Test is around Mid 400s range. Doctor would not prescribe anything. I have had damage to my sack when I was around 6 years old and noticed throughout life I didn't have the facial hair and etc of others.

I am planning on using 250Mg/Week of Test E for 10 weeks to help restore the machine to a younger feeling. Would I be better off at 125mg/week for 20 weeks and with such a low dose would PCT be needed and could I get by with Test Boosters after the "cycle" if you wanna call it that?

Im not out to bulk up or screw up my body, just really want to help it out . Please no one with the typical hijacking of "I do 750Mg/week and feel great " try it mentality.

Thanks in advance to thsoe around.

 

[Arabian]

250mg a week of Test Cyp or E would be fine and should bring your free test back within range. If Androgel brought your free test from the low 400's to the 900 range then a mild TRT dose of 250 a week should suffice. If you are planning on staying on this dose year round then do not worry about PCT. I would however suggest running HCG at 500mg per week in a slin pin throughout. Best of luck to you.

 

[SpyWizard]

how about those vikings..

 

[SpyWizard]

jk.. once you go down the trt path there's really no turning back and since you suspect that you are "limited, or non functioning" then go for it..

issue with docs are they have to go by what the insurance companies are willing to pay for.. or you can pay for the trt yourself.. either way having a script is the way to go and not end up in jail..

 

[corbin980]

Would PCT of some sort be good if only doing it twice a year or so? I know my body will recover on its own after, but would anything help it along the way. I have seen unleached, 6 oxo, post cycle support, type supplements. Would it be any benefit or just a money waster for such a small dose?

 

[Judo Tom]

the first thing you should think about doing is FIRING your doctor.
then find a new doc

trt is the way to go for you for right now.

 

[nydj66]

Would PCT of some sort be good if only doing it twice a year or so? I know my body will recover on its own after, but would anything help it along the way. I have seen unleached, 6 oxo, post cycle support, type supplements. Would it be any benefit or just a money waster for such a small dose?

Do you plan on staying on the androgel? If so, there's no reason for PCT.

 

[corbin980]

I am not on androgel anymore. Reason for the test e. Androgel was over a yr ago.

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[nydj66]

I am not on androgel anymore. Reason for the test e. Androgel was over a yr ago.

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If your testosterone is low, anything you gain while on test-E will be lost quickly after you stop.

Ideally, you would find a doctor willing to give you a script for testosterone injections and find the baseline dosage where you stay in a normal reange.

Then you could cycle higher dosages there a couple times a year and return to the prescribed dosage after the cycle.

 

[GradeABeef]

Here is the deal, I have searched forum after forum looking for answers and hopefully someone here will have the answer or where to get the answer I desire.

First off.
32 Yr Old.
220LBS 245LBs before Androgel
5'8"
BF 20% .

Year ago or so I underwent LOW T Thearpy with Androgel for 7 Months. Before that I had Testosterone of 300 to 400. After AndroGel and DMSO to help passage my Test was in the 900 Range for one month. Everything else was just normal range.. I felt great and with working out I started to lose a lot of my fat and harden my muscles. Since then I have been able to keep the fat off and maintained what little I gained. Recently I had felt like crap again and noticed changes in libido and Etc. Went to Doctor and Test is around Mid 400s range. Doctor would not prescribe anything. I have had damage to my sack when I was around 6 years old and noticed throughout life I didn't have the facial hair and etc of others.

I am planning on using 250Mg/Week of Test E for 10 weeks to help restore the machine to a younger feeling. Would I be better off at 125mg/week for 20 weeks and with such a low dose would PCT be needed and could I get by with Test Boosters after the "cycle" if you wanna call it that?

Im not out to bulk up or screw up my body, just really want to help it out . Please no one with the typical hijacking of "I do 750Mg/week and feel great " try it mentality.

Thanks in advance to thsoe around.

What is the deal? you said damage to your sack. does one of the boys work good or both not so well.
I would say YES about PCT. if you add any other test to your body, it will shut down and not want to make your own.
I wouldn't do a 20 weeker, I know that there are guys on here that do it all the time.
i would go with the 250 cause that is a nice dose even if you do want to put on some size.
Also, HCGenerate is sugested to take thoughout the cycle so you don't get shut down during.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

the first thing you should think about doing is FIRING your doctor.
then find a new doc

trt is the way to go for you for right now.

This right here^^^^

The problem with most docs is simply that they are assholes. If insurance doesnt cover it or they dont get kickbacks/bonuses ect from it then they have no interest in perscribing it. Even if its the answer to your problem. They simply dont give a shit.
Also the majority of them wont touch injectable test with a 10 foot pole because they are either A) in the stone age about it or more likely B) They are scared by the moral heirarchy witch hunt bullshit that now surrounds sports and "cheating" ect ect... and are more concerned with covering their own ass then helping you.
Not to say every doc is a douche but alot of them are.
Also be wary of the idiots that think a TRT shot every 2 or 3 weeks is a good idea. This will obviously cause more harm than good in the long run and possibly new issues too.

As Arabian said, get yourself started on TRT self perscribed or not. If you want to start at 250 thats fine. I think even 125-150 every 5 days would do you good also. But your going to have to get some time in and get blood work done to see where your at.

If you have "damage" issues then I would just plan on permanent HRT. Even if you have to go to an anti aging clinic and pay too much for a script at least you'll have the script.

 

[ConanX]

Get an injectible testosterone prescription. Injectible test will make you feel great. In the meantime though, you can run 150-250mg Test E a week till you get the script. This is a LONG term thing. You will do it for the rest of your life (if you don't your test will drop). You can get some aeromasin and run it very very low dose if your estrogen starts to raise. HCG can help keep your nuts fuller if you want kids or if you want your wife to see your big nuts.

 

[corbin980]

I took the test before and it did well. My test is in the normal range. But the low side. I understand replacing my t will cause some shutdown, but if my own is working just not like it used to how do I start it back? Hard enough time getting docs to prescribe t almost no chance I can walk in and get a script for arime3dex or clomid or nolva. Won't it start back on its own?

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[corbin980]

Also imy old test results were. Total test of 380. Total free was 12.0. Normal range they said.......... I say bullshit. It was done last 8months.

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[TheRippedReverend]

Here is the deal, I have searched forum after forum looking for answers and hopefully someone here will have the answer or where to get the answer I desire.

First off.
32 Yr Old.
220LBS 245LBs before Androgel
5'8"
BF 20% .

Year ago or so I underwent LOW T Thearpy with Androgel for 7 Months. Before that I had Testosterone of 300 to 400. After AndroGel and DMSO to help passage my Test was in the 900 Range for one month. Everything else was just normal range.. I felt great and with working out I started to lose a lot of my fat and harden my muscles. Since then I have been able to keep the fat off and maintained what little I gained. Recently I had felt like crap again and noticed changes in libido and Etc. Went to Doctor and Test is around Mid 400s range. Doctor would not prescribe anything. I have had damage to my sack when I was around 6 years old and noticed throughout life I didn't have the facial hair and etc of others.

I am planning on using 250Mg/Week of Test E for 10 weeks to help restore the machine to a younger feeling. Would I be better off at 125mg/week for 20 weeks and with such a low dose would PCT be needed and could I get by with Test Boosters after the "cycle" if you wanna call it that?

Im not out to bulk up or screw up my body, just really want to help it out . Please no one with the typical hijacking of "I do 750Mg/week and feel great " try it mentality.

Thanks in advance to thsoe around.

Really man its just hard. Your not fixing your problem your just masking it!

What damage did you have to ur testes.

250 would be perfect ur test in a perfect world would be about 621

Do u have diabities?

 

[corbin980]

Long and short. Ripped open the sack when 5 yrsold had a family doc n country sow it up. Nuts where hanging in my dads hand.

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[GradeABeef]

Long and short. Ripped open the sack when 5 yrsold had a family doc n country sow it up. Nuts where hanging in my dads hand.

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That doesn't mean they don't work. What kind of build do you have and what can you lift in the gym?

 

[corbin980]

Medium build. I have some defnition. But a fat ass. I haven't let my body fall to the wasteside nor have I worked out as much as I should. At my height before shoulder cuff issues. 195 to 200 bench. Had a hernia repair when 15 due to sack issue.

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[GradeABeef]

I don't think you should give up on your nuts.
So I think you should cycle on and off. Using hcg or hcgenerate to increase your production and keep them plump. Keep doses low work out. Get body fat down through diet and cardio.

 

[stevesmi]

at your age i bet if you improved your lifestyle your test levels would rebound. but people aren't willing to do that which is the problem

 

[corbin980]

I don't ever plan to go more than 250 ew. Thought of 125 ew for 10 weeks and come off and go back on 2 or 3 months down the road with the other 10 weeks at 125. I have ordered. Anabolic Innovations post cycle support and hcgenerate to help. Have house of muscle brand 3,6,17 androsterone( 6oxo) test booster.

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[corbin980]

@steve. My diet was in check and I was working out before the trt before. I honestly agree with you on diet, but it isn't the cure all but rather a good foundation to start from.

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[stevesmi]

^^^ 20% body fat man. your diet is NOT in check. most of america is overweight and has testosterone deficiencies for this reason. has a lot to do with the bad stuff we put in our bodies. clean up your diet, improve your lifestyle and trust me your test levels will bounce, now it may not be enough to prevent you from going on HRT at a young age, but it will help you whether you go on or not. even guys on HRT struggle with lifestyle, its not gonna cure your problems.

 

[oxymoron]

is there some magical chart that doctors follow?

my doc was goin over my results and did some goofy tim the tool guy grunts and high fived me when he got to my total test which was 600ish. I later looked at the range and saw that I was very average.....

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[corbin980]

Thanks steve soo what your saying mcdonalds and burger king are not good food choices? Just playin. Any other advice ?

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[corbin980]

Thanks a lot to all those who offered advice. I will update on what happens and plan on finding another doctor. Any recommendations in atl area.

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[eddymerckx]

I am hijacking just because a noob said no hijacking....had a great ride today until my fat ass broke my bike seat--my $250 carbon fiber seat...out of Atomic Tabs....bummed...anyway, enough off topic, what about your test level?

 

[corbin980]

380 within last 8months

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[Judo Tom]

id go get test again.

then i would lift heavy focusing on major compound lifts

id revamp my diet and do a solid 8 week pct and get my bf down around 10-15% then get tested again.