looking for bike power

[exergy]

Hi all,

I'm a cyclist looking for a better supplement strategy. My specs: ~145 lb, 6-8% BF, ~4.5 W/kg @FTP, 10-15 hrs/week.

Now: beta alanine 2g/day and occasional albuterol. Plus the usual multiv, recovery drinks w/ BCAA, etc. I also tried an OTC testosterone booster last year, P6. I was never able to figure out if it changed my numbers.

The BA has worked well (optygenhp). I guess that's not a surprise since there is so much science supporting BA. For albuterol, I found several studies on cyclists showing no real benefit, just higher heart rate and more lactic acid. But I still feel like it is good for big sustained efforts despite the increased heart rate of maybe ~7 bpm.

I have not experimented with creatine due to possibility of water weight. I wonder if phytin or similar will actually increase HC level? I don't have blood checked regularly, so I would not know if it was working except from performance numbers. I suppose another possibility could be improving recovery to allow for more threshold or HIIT workouts. I am in mid-30s and I can do intervals or other 'hard' workouts twice a week. But barely.

Any ideas on what I can add to improve efforts that last 1/2 hour or longer?

 

[elite7777]

Hi all,

I'm a cyclist looking for a better supplement strategy. My specs: ~145 lb, 6-8% BF, ~4.5 W/kg @FTP, 10-15 hrs/week.

Now: beta alanine 2g/day and occasional albuterol. Plus the usual multiv, recovery drinks w/ BCAA, etc. I also tried an OTC testosterone booster last year, P6. I was never able to figure out if it changed my numbers.

The BA has worked well (optygenhp). I guess that's not a surprise since there is so much science supporting BA. For albuterol, I found several studies on cyclists showing no real benefit, just higher heart rate and more lactic acid. But I still feel like it is good for big sustained efforts despite the increased heart rate of maybe ~7 bpm.

I have not experimented with creatine due to possibility of water weight. I wonder if phytin or similar will actually increase HC level? I don't have blood checked regularly, so I would not know if it was working except from performance numbers. I suppose another possibility could be improving recovery to allow for more threshold or HIIT workouts. I am in mid-30s and I can do intervals or other 'hard' workouts twice a week. But barely.

Any ideas on what I can add to improve efforts that last 1/2 hour or longer?

I'm a cyclist here also and there are several of us on this board. As far as research chems for increased power you should checkout GW501516 and Osta (aka MK2866). Other than that I would recommend topical testosterone like Androgel for recovery. There are others like Aicar, etc. if you are into pinning but I don't pin so can't comment of them.

Do some searching around on here and you will find lots of good info. Post up any questions you have.

Cheers~

 

[elite7777]

Other supplements you might want to look into include CoQ-10 and D-Ribose.

 

[exergy]

Thanks. I will do some searches.

 

[wreckncrew]

How log dose it take to see results on GW and MK 2866? I have been using them for almost a month now and no results yet, how much power should I expecting from them? 3 to 5 % gain in 8 weeks?

 

[elite7777]

How log dose it take to see results on GW and MK 2866? I have been using them for almost a month now and no results yet, how much power should I expecting from them? 3 to 5 % gain in 8 weeks?

Everyone is different but I see results with GW after a week and Osta about 3 weeks. It's hard to put a percent gain on it. A lot of variables are at play... but the first thing you should notice is a lower HR when compared to % FTP. If you look at your power files it should show higher power numbers vs HR (when compared to older workouts pre GW) and you should also be able to feel it when on the bike. I hope this helps.

 

[billfred]

Everyone is different but I see results with GW after a week and Osta about 3 weeks. It's hard to put a percent gain on it. A lot of variables are at play... but the first thing you should notice is a lower HR when compared to % FTP. If you look at your power files it should show higher power numbers vs HR (when compared to older workouts pre GW) and you should also be able to feel it when on the bike. I hope this helps.

Have you used HGH and noticed anything on your performance there?

 

[elite7777]

Have you used HGH and noticed anything on your performance there?

Sorry, I have not used HGH.

 

[wreckncrew]

Thanks for the reply. Any other suggestions beside GW for cycling?

 

[elite7777]

Thanks for the reply. Any other suggestions beside GW for cycling?

Tbol also works

 

[Influx]

Thanks for the reply. Any other suggestions beside GW for cycling?

You may want to try: ITPP (myo-inositol trisphyrophosphate)

 

[dennis1]

I'm a cyclist here also and there are several of us on this board. As far as research chems for increased power you should checkout GW501516 and Osta (aka MK2866). Other than that I would recommend topical testosterone like Androgel for recovery. There are others like Aicar, etc. if you are into pinning but I don't pin so can't comment of them.

Do some searching around on here and you will find lots of good info. Post up any questions you have.

Cheers~

X---2 sarms work great for cycling

 

[zazen5]

Complex carbs. Cycling is a fast twitch lactic acid exercise. You need carbs to augment power output. There was a physics study done on Tour de France cyclists: Showed that the wattage generated by cyclists is low, 60 watts per day, rest is heat. Cycling is highly inefficient. You need energy with water added. Back when I was cycling lots, I really liked Twinlabs Carbo fuel. It had lots of cofactors plus the complex carbs that increased my nutrient intake and delayed fatigue, I highly recommend it if it is still made. It takes good too. I would stay far away from pseudoephedrine. It hasnt clearly demonstrated in studies that it augmented power output on a cycle ergometer test and it affects the dopaminergic system. Caffeine is fine, highly recommended and safe are yerba mate and green tea.

 

[Stretch512]

Looking for bike power? Well first things first your diet has got to be spot on. If you drink that has to go and watch your performance improve. Eat foods that help clear cortisol with a healthy balance of carbs and protein. B-12 (sublingual is what I like) to get your boost going and raise that hematocrit level a bit. Vitamins are fine but don't over do it. Eat to grow, if you want muscle eat healthy count protein (I intake protein at least every hour throughout my regular day). Want something extra I like peptides. Ipomorelin & CJC-1295w/out DAC work together to give you a HGH pulse that helps a lot with recovery. I only take this post workout, after a hard days ride relax take your peptides and recover faster. Oral test supplement like Super Test has worked well for me. Of Course train smarter not harder and remember to have fun be happy, happy legs like to put out more power.

 

[skywalker77]

I'm a cyclist here also and there are several of us on this board. As far as research chems for increased power you should checkout GW501516 and Osta (aka MK2866). Other than that I would recommend topical testosterone like Androgel for recovery. There are others like Aicar, etc. if you are into pinning but I don't pin so can't comment of them.

Do some searching around on here and you will find lots of good info. Post up any questions you have.

Cheers~

Cyclist here too.
Sorry to dig up an old thread, hope you get this.
Two things I'm curious about 1) How long do/did you cycle GW and Osta while bicycling, what dosages, and did you notice a drop off in fitness after cycling off them?
2) In using Androgel for recovery, how much do you dose? Do you only use it after hard efforts? What about suppression concerns?

Thanks!