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Lift big to get big? What do YOU think??

Do you have to lift heavy to get big?


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Neo22 said:
I would have slimmed down before doing anything if I were you. High reps low weights does not get you cut LMFAO


I value your input as much as I value the input of a kindergarten class teaching physics as long as you have responses the way you do. Talk about insecurity the obvious sign is to put someone else down to make you feel better inside about your own shortcomings.
I know exactly what it takes to get cut. diet and cardio. I simply stated I plan on changing my workout routine.
 
Want to throw in my two cents here. I've never been big or very strong. I'm just kinda average looking. But, I've gone from tiny to high average... Anyhow, though I know this will get me laughed at, a few months back I was repping on flat bench with 235. That was a lot for me. I felt good, so I kept doing it and doing it. Honestly, after the first month or so I didn't really get any more growth though I tried to keep the weight heavy. The problem was my triceps were lagging.

My chest does most of the work during bench. I don't know why, but it always has. And, I can't seem to get good growth for triceps with isolation movements. AND, true close-grip benches kill my shoulders and elbows. Though I still do isolation movements for the triceps, I've modified how I bench so that my hands are about 5-6" closer together- which still isn't and extremely close grip. I've had to lower my weight (all the way down to 185 initially- see, told you you would laugh...), but for the first time, my anterior shoulders and inner tricep heads are getting adequate work. My chest is growing again and still gets sore every workout, but my shoulders and elbows don't hurt. So, sometimes it can benifit to lighten the load for the right reasons.


Jacob
 
The problem was my triceps were lagging.

My chest does most of the work during bench. I don't know why, but it always has.

Basic kinesiology as to why your chest does most of the work during the bench press. It is the primary muscle and the triceps are actually a close secondary. Pick up a kinesiology book might help you plan your workouts better. Not flaming just saying!

Because your tri's being secondary during bench press, after working on my chest I have always then worked the tri's as most people do to basically finish off your triceps that the bench press work already started.
 
Being an X competitive powerlifter and now more of a BB sort of....I can a point for both....

I do both...I do sets of 5 on my heavy day and sets of 8-10 on my light days...honestly i never ever agreed with singles and triples...till comp time....
Ive benched close to 500 and squated well into the 7's in the squat....
i had a 56" chest and 30" legs...
 
Well in order to get bigger you have to keep getting stronger so the weights go up on your hypertrophy weeks following your strength training. Hypertrophy training will not make you stronger in the long run and will plateau and wont be able to get past it. Strength training is the only way to go up in hypertrophy training to get bigger.

4 weeks of strength then 2 weeks of hypertrophy is a good way to start.

I will also say this...DC Training
 
regardless of wieght used you must train your muscles to failure. I think it is easier to do that with higher weight. You also stimulate muscle fiber differently by shocking with weight compared to burning out with reps. They both have their time and place, but if you want to get big, the most important thing is still to eat, eat, eat. Then I would train heavy. If I were an athelete, I would train heavy compound movements to get strong, but that won't necessarily give you the "big" appearance you are looking for if you are a bodybuilder
 
swordfish151 said:
I believe you have to lift BIG w/PROPER FORM....i can say for myself and personal experience that going heavy has put on muscle for me...that light weight shit doesnt cut it at all...to get big you must lift big..but with proper form ...just cause you have 500lbs on the squat rack and barley bending your knees doesnt mean your gaing mass...or cause your throwing up 185lbs on the bicep curl but you look like you have down syndrome while doing it doesnt mean you'll gain an inch....

That comment about down syndrome and curling is exactly what I saw 2 days ago in the gym. I couldn't help but laugh, felt like going over there and telling the kid to do about a 1/4 of the weight he was doing. It was one of the funniest moments in the gym ever, you just had to be there.
 
majutsu said:
Let's take a bodybuilder who's one-rep max squat is 425lbs. This is a good beginner/low-intermediate squat number.


maybe for the beginners you know... but i dont think ive ever met someone (in person) that can touch their ass to the floor with 425 on their back
 
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