Leukemia and Steriods

[spastic_gramps]

I use to lurk here several years ago when I ran my first cycle. It was Cyp and EQ and it was great. This was back when I was in college and 22. Since then I maintained what I had and never ran anymore cycles. My stats were 5'8, 185lbs, and around 10-11%bf. I was happy with my body and maintained it naturally.

Feb. 2006 I was diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia and have just wrapped up 10 months of grueling chemo. If anyone has ever had any experience with cancer or has known someone who has they know that chemo can wreak absolute hell on your body. After my intial hospitalization I had lost 40lbs. I looked like I was back in highschool. Throughout the chemo I basically sat around and ate. I'm now 180lbs with about 18%bf. I have just started getting back into the gym doing some cardio and light machine work. I'll eventually work my way back into my split and free weights. I consider myself knowledgable about diet and lifting and know what my body responds best to so I'm very optimistic about were I'm going to get naturally.

However, a year or two down the road I may consider doing another cycle. I would first need to satisfy my concerns about the steriods reactivating the cancer gene (I had an inverted 16 that caused my leukemia). With leukemia being a disease of the bone marrow and thus blood I would think that since anabolics effect your blood supply that you would also be susceptible reactivating the cancer cell growth. If anyone has any ideas or knowledge of this I'd love to know.

BTW my chemo was a success. I've been in remission since my first round with no traceable cancer left in my body. While AML has a death rate of 80% in two years inverted 16 AML is one of the most cureable acute leukemias.

 

[JZ1276]

I use to lurk here several years ago when I ran my first cycle. It was Cyp and EQ and it was great. This was back when I was in college and 22. Since then I maintained what I had and never ran anymore cycles. My stats were 5'8, 185lbs, and around 10-11%bf. I was happy with my body and maintained it naturally.

Feb. 2006 I was diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia and have just wrapped up 10 months of grueling chemo. If anyone has ever had any experience with cancer or has known someone who has they know that chemo can wreak absolute hell on your body. After my intial hospitalization I had lost 40lbs. I looked like I was back in highschool. Throughout the chemo I basically sat around and ate. I'm now 180lbs with about 18%bf. I have just started getting back into the gym doing some cardio and light machine work. I'll eventually work my way back into my split and free weights. I consider myself knowledgable about diet and lifting and know what my body responds best to so I'm very optimistic about were I'm going to get naturally.

However, a year or two down the road I may consider doing another cycle. I would first need to satisfy my concerns about the steriods reactivating the cancer gene (I had an inverted 16 that caused my leukemia). With leukemia being a disease of the bone marrow and thus blood I would think that since anabolics effect your blood supply that you would also be susceptible reactivating the cancer cell growth. If anyone has any ideas or knowledge of this I'd love to know.

BTW my chemo was a success. I've been in remission since my first round with no traceable cancer left in my body. While AML has a death rate of 80% in two years inverted 16 AML is one of the most cureable acute leukemias.

I am approaching my 5th year of remission from Hodgkins which was diagnosed in the final stage (inc. bone marrow). Since then I have run 3 cycles in the last year and have been fine. I'm not too sure about using shortly after going into remission, however in 2-3 years you should be safe. Next time you go to get your blood count, you should ask your doc. BTW, congratulations on the remission.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Congrats on being in remission. I think the best bet is to talk to an open minded doctor about this. I wouldn't want to give advice that might hurt you. Stay safe and in good health. Welcome back to the boards.

 

[bigcats]

I wa diagonesed will all-pre b 17 years ago. I went throgh three years of chemo. I survived and had a healthy baby, I recently hoohed up with a hrt clinic. MY hormone growth and thyroid was very low. I went on testosterone shots thyroid and growth. I fell like a new man. I recomend you wait till you are done with chemo and then consult with a hrt clinic. good luck

 

[Alpine`]

bump

 

[LoneTree]

Most malignancies are uncontrolled growth of cells.
AAS is growth promoting factor for many cell lines, including blood forming cells.
Estrogen is biggest risk factor for breast cancer (growth promoting factor for breast).
Growth hormone is medically contraindicated to be taken if someone has ANY TYPE of cancer.
I would be very careful about AAS if I have history of any type of malignancy.

 

[Alpine`]

I had a benign bone growth (lesion) in the center of my upper arm bone. No biopsy or surgery was required (ruled out by advanced imaging). I even had a full body scan to check for any other hot spots - all clear. It's small, it doesn't compromise bone strength or anything like that. We only noticed it after X-rays for an unrelated muscle tear (turned out very minor). I guess they are fairly common in young adults but go unnoticed. It's thought they may occur during periods of rapid growth or trauma to the bone. They are seen in the long bones of the leg a lot (I guess). It was speculated that it was actually regressing although 9 months later it appeared the same size (no smaller, no larger). Anyway, it has always been on the back of my mind. I've run some Epistane since then but thats about it. It's a known anti-cancer treatment in Japan but only for its anti-estrogen properties in breast cancer. For my scenario it is still an androgen which is never good with abnormal cell growth.

Am I pushing my luck with any hormone use? I have no family history of cancer or anything. This was all about ~2 years ago and so far so good. I haven't had anymore imaging or X-rays since the second (9 month) checkup. I don't think this qualifies as a cancer risk but ANY kind of growth like this makes me uneasy.

Maybe there are some experts somewhere out there that could chime in? Hell, anyone with some informed opinion would be welcomed.

 

[Advisor_x]

Bro,

You made it, why mess..........

 

[Alpine`]

Bro,

You made it, why mess..........

Are you referring to him or me? In his case, yes, he dodged a bullet.

But in my case Im not sure it's exactly like I "dodged cancer". For example, a friend dropped a dumbbell on his foot. It traumatized the foot bone(s) and a few years later he ended up getting some strange bone growth on the top of his foot where it landed. The Doctors told him it was a benign growth aka lesion and they removed it with minor surgery. So technically, this too was a bone tumor. I wouldn't consider him to be at risk for developing Cancer due to this. My scenario is not directly analogous but you see what I am saying...

I just wish I have more knowledge on this area.

 

[LoneTree]

I had a benign bone growth (lesion) in the center of my upper arm bone. No biopsy or surgery was required (ruled out by advanced imaging). I even had a full body scan to check for any other hot spots - all clear. It's small, it doesn't compromise bone strength or anything like that. We only noticed it after X-rays for an unrelated muscle tear (turned out very minor). I guess they are fairly common in young adults but go unnoticed. It's thought they may occur during periods of rapid growth or trauma to the bone. They are seen in the long bones of the leg a lot (I guess). It was speculated that it was actually regressing although 9 months later it appeared the same size (no smaller, no larger). Anyway, it has always been on the back of my mind. I've run some Epistane since then but thats about it. It's a known anti-cancer treatment in Japan but only for its anti-estrogen properties in breast cancer. For my scenario it is still an androgen which is never good with abnormal cell growth.

Am I pushing my luck with any hormone use? I have no family history of cancer or anything. This was all about ~2 years ago and so far so good. I haven't had anymore imaging or X-rays since the second (9 month) checkup. I don't think this qualifies as a cancer risk but ANY kind of growth like this makes me uneasy.

Maybe there are some experts somewhere out there that could chime in? Hell, anyone with some informed opinion would be welcomed.

There are practically no medical studies with AAS, so all information is a matter of opinion, just an intelligent guess.
A benign tumor (except for BPH) is most likely not a contraindication to use of AAS or androgens.
Majority of people have some form of benign tumors (lipomas, warts, etc).