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LETS get it straight TREN and sides!

You forgot one side effect....uncontrollable itching from all the hives you get from that shit. lol I used 2 different kits and still the same result. Probably just me though...I have ZERO luck in life lol Great fucking post though brother
 
MuSuLPhReAk said:
I agree with you Realgains.

My psa has gone up with tren/test cycles and test alone cycles but then went back down post cycle. I think test is probably the worst in this regard but tren will likely have some affect since it is a very strong androgen.....then again any steroid can affect the prostate.

Again the main and worst side for most users is a very shitty lipid profile.

RG:)
 
Twitched said:
Tren is the safest roid out there of course!


There is no such thing as a safe steroid.....all carry very similar risks #1 of which is a shutty lipid profile. There is a pretty large gap between non 17aa roids and those that are 17aa though.

Sides largely depend on dose ....but here is a list.

Worst roids

#1 Anandrol due to its high concentration of 17aa compound and large dose needed for effectiveness. It is also highly progestogenic and can cause the same sides as aromatizing roids....ie: water retention and resulting high BP and more
Also a strong androgen.
**High estrogen and or progesterone levels are bad for the electrolyte balance

#2. Halo for same 17aa reasons but it doesn't aromatize and is not progestogenic....but it is a stronger androgen than testosterone

#3. D-bol for similar reasons to Anandrol accept it isn't progestogenic. Slightly better than halo or anadrol since less dose is needed

#4. Anavar and Winstrol as a tie.........both need high doses to be effective and are 17aa. Winstrol is particularily bad for the lipid profile for some reason.
Both are week androgens though
Wait a minute some will say.......are you really saying that mild out anavar is less toxic than tren and test? YES I am bro's and its due to its 17aa componen and the affect this compound has on the lipid profile and liver. My lipid profile and liver enzymes were far worse on anavar alone at 50 per day compaired with tren alone at 50 per day after weeks 4.
True test and tren will give worst androgenic sides like hair loss on the head and bodily hair growth, oily skin and acne but these are minor sides really.

#5.Testosterone in decent doses as it highly androgenic and converts to the worlds strongest androgen DHT.
Bad aromatizing properties leading to elevated estrogen levels and possibly high BP and electrolyte imbalances.

#6. Trenbolone acetate. It does not aromatize and is only slightly progetogenic BUT is is the strongest androgen mg/mg of all the muscle building roids or test........so we don't take 200 per day now do we.

NOTE:
Trest and tren are highly androgenic and as such are harder on the prostate than winstrol or anavar BUT prostate problems are fairly rare amoungst users and when they are its usually benign prostatic hypertrophy or minor infection.
If you already have cancer cells in the prostate then test or tren would be bad news, especially test , since protate cancer feeds off of testosterone and all androgens.(including anavar)




RG:)
 
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I forgot to cover the "I have kidney pain while on tren issue"

Tren gives very strong muscle pumps , especially in the low back. Often the bro has a very stiff sore lumbar region while on steroid. This is caused by that pump amd water retention and is actually far worse with test or aother aromatizing hormones.

True kidney pain is very rare and comes either after extensive damage or because of kidney stones. True kidney pain is felt VERY HIGH UP ON THE FLAKNS and usually radiates to the upper lateral abdomen as well.

True kidney pain IS NOT IN THE LUMBAR AREA!(low back region)

I suggest that to get your BUN and creatinine levels checked(kidney function test) while they have this pain in the back. I will bet my house that it is not kidneys at all. Your lipid profile will be a mess but your kidneys will be fine!

RG:)
 
bump for realgains-- good to see people out there looking at the information available objectively, and making recommendations based on their extensive experience.... and starting some good discussions along the way.

thanks---
 
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