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Some think tren is particularily bad for the steroid user. They often say it will damage kidneys and cause all sorts of problems. I would like to clear this issue up once and for all.....
As far as steroids go YES they carry risk.....the #1 side BY FAR is the change they cause in ones lipid profile...ones hdl drops a lot and ldl goes up. The hdl to total cholesterol ratio gets very bad in all men.
The #2 side is liver damage . This is caused by long term use of 17 aa roids like anadrol, d-bol winstrol or any other 17aa roid. Most men know enough to limit 17aa roid use to 4 weeks at one time and allow for time off between cycles so liver damage is not seen that often with steroid use. That said there have been some men that have died from liver tumors and liver failure from steroid use...the late Dave Johns is an example ....but he loved anadrol and d-bol and used it far too much.
#3 side is high blood pressure. Caused usually by sky rocketing estrogen levels and the resulting water retention. This is an issue with the aromatizing gear.
Contrary to popular belief SHUT down comes very rapidly with any steroid use save for low does primo AND very few have trouble with long term HPTA receovery.
******NOW tren is bad for the lipid profile, as are all steroids and testosterone in high doses but less so than 17aa roids.
****** Tren is not hard on the kidneys and if it was then my creatine and BUN would have changed AND we would be hearing of young men hospitalized with acute kidney issues form tren use, especially in small town USA where tren is often the only steroid readily available...so where are all the horror stories? NONE!
I have always followed myself with blood work while "on" (19 years )and I have been using tren for 15 years and have done 100mg for 10 weeks stright many times...NEVER has my creatine and bUN levels climbed even slightly.
****** all steroids stress the liver to some degree but the 17aa roids are far worst.
17aa roids are so bad because the 17aa compound, which is there to protect the steroid form the gut, is hard on the liver. Also taken orally this compound enters the portal vein directly from the small intestine and travels directly to the liver for one "big hit "detoxification. Tren is not 17 aa and it is injectable so any liver stress will be spread out over a longer period of time.
********Tren almost never raises BP since it does not cause water retention. Testosterone and all the aromatizing gear are far worse.
What about hair loss......well you are going to get it if you have the genetics for male pattern baldness. Tren is strongest androgen that we use for muscle building reasons mg for mg and so it is is hard on the hair line in some but Testosterone is worst as it converts to the absolute strongest androgen and that is DHT.
What about gyno?........tren is progestogenic but I telling ya bro's it almost NEVER causes gyno. Usually what happens is a bro is taking an aromatizing roid or testosterone along with the tren...then they start to notice gyno so they hit the Nolvadex....gee they say, the gyno is getting worst....no kidding bro YOU WERE TOO LATE with the nolva. Be safe and always take nolva with aromatizable gear.
So is you are looking for bad sides then take d-bol and test together with no estrogen inhibiton or blockers...and boost the dose to a gram or more and believe me you will have sides! Better yet "chicken out" on injections and take anadrol, d-bol or halo for 10 weeks!
Best of health to you all. ....AND if you are going to worry about somthing then worry about your lipid profile...there are things you can do to help this while "on" but that will take another thread.
RG
The tren /kidney thing is a myth and it was started way back by the late Dan Duchaine. Before Duchaines comments NOBODY thought tren was hard on the kidneys. ITS A MYTH.
I have followed myself with blood work since strting roids almost 20 years ago. I have always checked liver enzymes, lipid profile and kidney function. NEVER have I had any problems with tren. NEVER has my BUN and creatine been elevated even slightly(Kidney fuction test) and I have taken 100 of tren for 10 weeks straight many times!
As far as steroids go YES they carry risk.....the #1 side BY FAR is the change they cause in ones lipid profile...ones hdl drops a lot and ldl goes up. The hdl to total cholesterol ratio gets very bad in all men.
The #2 side is liver damage . This is caused by long term use of 17 aa roids like anadrol, d-bol winstrol or any other 17aa roid. Most men know enough to limit 17aa roid use to 4 weeks at one time and allow for time off between cycles so liver damage is not seen that often with steroid use. That said there have been some men that have died from liver tumors and liver failure from steroid use...the late Dave Johns is an example ....but he loved anadrol and d-bol and used it far too much.
#3 side is high blood pressure. Caused usually by sky rocketing estrogen levels and the resulting water retention. This is an issue with the aromatizing gear.
Contrary to popular belief SHUT down comes very rapidly with any steroid use save for low does primo AND very few have trouble with long term HPTA receovery.
******NOW tren is bad for the lipid profile, as are all steroids and testosterone in high doses but less so than 17aa roids.
****** Tren is not hard on the kidneys and if it was then my creatine and BUN would have changed AND we would be hearing of young men hospitalized with acute kidney issues form tren use, especially in small town USA where tren is often the only steroid readily available...so where are all the horror stories? NONE!
I have always followed myself with blood work while "on" (19 years )and I have been using tren for 15 years and have done 100mg for 10 weeks stright many times...NEVER has my creatine and bUN levels climbed even slightly.
****** all steroids stress the liver to some degree but the 17aa roids are far worst.
17aa roids are so bad because the 17aa compound, which is there to protect the steroid form the gut, is hard on the liver. Also taken orally this compound enters the portal vein directly from the small intestine and travels directly to the liver for one "big hit "detoxification. Tren is not 17 aa and it is injectable so any liver stress will be spread out over a longer period of time.
********Tren almost never raises BP since it does not cause water retention. Testosterone and all the aromatizing gear are far worse.
What about hair loss......well you are going to get it if you have the genetics for male pattern baldness. Tren is strongest androgen that we use for muscle building reasons mg for mg and so it is is hard on the hair line in some but Testosterone is worst as it converts to the absolute strongest androgen and that is DHT.
What about gyno?........tren is progestogenic but I telling ya bro's it almost NEVER causes gyno. Usually what happens is a bro is taking an aromatizing roid or testosterone along with the tren...then they start to notice gyno so they hit the Nolvadex....gee they say, the gyno is getting worst....no kidding bro YOU WERE TOO LATE with the nolva. Be safe and always take nolva with aromatizable gear.
So is you are looking for bad sides then take d-bol and test together with no estrogen inhibiton or blockers...and boost the dose to a gram or more and believe me you will have sides! Better yet "chicken out" on injections and take anadrol, d-bol or halo for 10 weeks!
Best of health to you all. ....AND if you are going to worry about somthing then worry about your lipid profile...there are things you can do to help this while "on" but that will take another thread.
RG
The tren /kidney thing is a myth and it was started way back by the late Dan Duchaine. Before Duchaines comments NOBODY thought tren was hard on the kidneys. ITS A MYTH.
I have followed myself with blood work since strting roids almost 20 years ago. I have always checked liver enzymes, lipid profile and kidney function. NEVER have I had any problems with tren. NEVER has my BUN and creatine been elevated even slightly(Kidney fuction test) and I have taken 100 of tren for 10 weeks straight many times!
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