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Lets debate this... Just How Much does it Take to Knock somebody out? ? ?

Big Rick Rock

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What do you guys think? How easy is it to turn somebody's lights out? how much power is needed?

Some guys seem to think a ton of power is needed, I think that placement of the strike is key... what do you guys think?
 
i think placement i more important than power. i knocked someone out in when i was 18 and only like 160. A clean and accurate strike they are going down. exculding Mike Tyson.
 
That's a tough question, I would say it very much depends on the person getting hit.

It's always the strike you don't see coming that hurts the most, and it will require some amount of power. But I suppose once that amount of power is there, placement becomes more important.
 
You don't see near the amount of knockouts in the light weight divisions as you do in the heavier divisions. I think placement is very important but you have to have something behind it or they aren't going out.
hub5326
 
hub5326 said:
You don't see near the amount of knockouts in the light weight divisions as you do in the heavier divisions. I think placement is very important but you have to have something behind it or they aren't going out.
hub5326
I need absolutely no force.
I can put you to sleep easier than I can put on my socks.
Not with a strike - with about a dozen different chokes.
Gracie Jiu Jitsu RULES!
 
Not only Strangle holds, But There are Nerve attacks that will drop you in less that two seconds.

And you will be OUT.
 
I see you guys get into this shit all over the place...
Keep your flame wars off my thread... I'm talking to all of you.


-Big Rick Rock
 
the easiest way for me to do it is with a throw onto concrete.. but its my technique that will knock him out not power..

i think the placement of a punch is what leads to a knockout and the power behind just increases the area where you can hit and get a knockout

also some people have a very very high tolerance for either getting knocked out or NOT getting knocked out. I dont know if its how there brain is wired or maybe their head is built different..


what area of the head is best to hit if going for a knockout?
 
Mr.HeavyDuty said:
I see you guys get into this shit all over the place...
Keep your flame wars off my thread... I'm talking to all of you.


-Big Rick Rock


Nerve Attacks not Flames, ????
 
Judo Tom said:
what area of the head is best to hit if going for a knockout?


The chin.

No need for hay makers, a sharp, short left hook is your best friend.

-Less power needed.
-Less posibility of serious injury to the target.
-Tried and proven.
-If it doesn not produce a knock out it will stunt the target.
 
Bam said:
Nerve Attacks not Flames, ????


You guys attack my nerves when you start bickering.
 
I hate to say this, but I've seen George Dillman put a dude out by pressure point. Now, it takes a second to find the point- but, I have a hard time believing a pressure point striker would have the required time to find the point during a real fight.
I do believe it has a lot to do with placement and the person.
 
DANABOLIC55 said:
I hate to say this, but I've seen George Dillman put a dude out by pressure point. Now, it takes a second to find the point- but, I have a hard time believing a pressure point striker would have the required time to find the point during a real fight.
I do believe it has a lot to do with placement and the person.

You are right about using this in a real fight. I would say that to do this at a moments notice would take an amount of skill only attained over many many years of training.
 
I went to a Dillman seminar several years ago and witnessed one of his "knockouts". It was totally bogus.

While I am not saying that it can not be achieved through his method, I find it highly unlikely. In saying that, I had a friend of mine who challenged the legitamacy of his techniques, so Dillman put it on him!! He hit him hard, TWICE, once in the arm and then on the jaw (in sequence). My friends jaw was extremely sore but he was still standing. Then Dillman goes into talking about how some people are highly resistant to his blah, blah, blah.

He convienently knocks out his students only at the seminars I have seen. I even saw a guy fall too early from one of his punches when they mistimed it. It was hilarious. Dillman is a fraud for the most part in my opinion.
 
Mr.HeavyDuty said:
I went to a Dillman seminar several years ago and witnessed one of his "knockouts". It was totally bogus.

While I am not saying that it can not be achieved through his method, I find it highly unlikely. In saying that, I had a friend of mine who challenged the legitamacy of his techniques, so Dillman put it on him!! He hit him hard, TWICE, once in the arm and then on the jaw (in sequence). My friends jaw was extremely sore but he was still standing. Then Dillman goes into talking about how some people are highly resistant to his blah, blah, blah.

He convienently knocks out his students only at the seminars I have seen. I even saw a guy fall too early from one of his punches when they mistimed it. It was hilarious. Dillman is a fraud for the most part in my opinion.

Well, there you go then- even if the "touch knock outs" were totally legit, the time to set it up is too much to ask for. It's too risky to find out who is highly resistant to this. IMO
 
Truthfully most knockouts are nerve attacks as loss of consciousness is due to disruption of nervous system function. Some people for whatever reason can absorb much greater shock to the exterior before it translates to a knockout. The severe beatings taken by Mike Tyson and George Chuvalo come to mind. We're talking repeated heavy hits from heavyweight boxers flush, yet didn't fall. But then you look at Roy Jones, not to say he is glass jawed, but a single hit on the chin in the second round from light heavyweight Antonio Tarver laid him out.

In regards to Dillman, there is a film clip on bullshido.com that exposes that art. One of his former students tries to KO a news woman with a pressure point strike and she yells something like, "That hurt, you hit my ear.", then no knockout. The only people he could drop with his pressure point strikes are his own students.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Truthfully most knockouts are nerve attacks as loss of consciousness is due to disruption of nervous system function. Some people for whatever reason can absorb much greater shock to the exterior before it translates to a knockout. The severe beatings taken by Mike Tyson and George Chuvalo come to mind. We're talking repeated heavy hits from heavyweight boxers flush, yet didn't fall. But then you look at Roy Jones, not to say he is glass jawed, but a single hit on the chin in the second round from light heavyweight Antonio Tarver laid him out.

In regards to Dillman, there is a film clip on bullshido.com that exposes that art. One of his former students tries to KO a news woman with a pressure point strike and she yells something like, "That hurt, you hit my ear.", then no knockout. The only people he could drop with his pressure point strikes are his own students.


I'll never get tired of saying this.... A sharp, stiff knuckle sandwich to the chin is your best friend… You don’t need a lot of power, even though lading a power shot always feels good. Nothing feels better than feeling a guy’s face right thru your gloves, a fucking left hook that you throw with your whole body, you are on your toes, your hip whips across, your upper body follows, your shoulder crosses the line of his chin a couple of inches before your fist makes contact... WAAAM!
 
chin, throat, solar plexus, philtrum punches can be devastating without BIG POWER.

My opinion is a combination of power and accuracy is most effective for knockout blows.
 
I would pick accuracy over power. Although there is usually a higher percentage of knockouts in the heavier boxing weights, I assume accuracy to be equal with the lower weights in terms of power shots. I'm not possitive about that statistic. The champ with the current highest KO percentage, I think, is some Brazilian guy from one of the light weight classes.
 
Yes... there are more knockouts at the higher weight classes, some of it has to do with power, a lot of it has to do with conditioning....

The real deal profesional way to fight is to protect your chin at all times even when you are throwing a punch.... not just by keeping your hands up, but by body posture as well... When you throw a freaking Jab your chin should be tucked in and your shoulder(arm throwing the punch) almost touching your earlobe... The whole fight your chin should be touching your chest and your traps almost shrugged, even while being offensive and throwing punches your chin should be tucked in..... Your shoulder should cover your chin when your glove has to leave its(chin) side to hit the opponent...
Fighting this way takes a lot of conditioning, and it takes a toll on your energy bank.... The heavier guys get tired faster than the lighter guys. It takes more energy to keep some 18-20inch arms up than it does a pair of 12-14inch arms. If you watch a heavy weight fight and a light weight fight, you will notice the heavier guys will begin to leave more openings as the fight goes on, while the lighter guys will maintain a good tight guard even into the later rounds...

My theory is that most of the heavier guys will leave more openings during a fight, thus creating more opportunities for a knock out... The lighter guys have an easier time maintaining a tight guard thru the fight, thus creating less opening for a knockout.. YES, Power is a BIG issue, but I think opportunity of shot placements play a bigger roll.

This is just my opinion, I could be wrong, and I'm open to debate.....
 
As we touched on in the sucker punch thread in chat,the most violent KO's don't necessarily come from the hardest IMPACT,but rather from target placement(side of chin,temple)and punching THROUGH it,which twists the head quickly.This actually causes the cranium to rotate slightly around the brain,which results in the CNS short circuiting.
Pay attention to a lot of the fighters that never go down,you'll notice that their chin usually is literally stuck on their chests,so it's very difficult for an opponent to get that shot in that jolts their cranium.
Good discussion BRR.
 
How to make a person loose consciousness when you are fighting them.

There are two distinct ways of doing this.

1. Cut off the oxygen supply to their brain.
2. Cause trauma to their head.

I suppose a third way would be to cause massive trauma to another part of their body, such as severing a limb, gunshot wound or other causing another severe injury. But that aside, knocking somebody out usually involves either of the first 2 methods.

Method 1 can be achieved with a choke hold, knife hand strike to the jugulars or a similar attack to the blood supply to the brain. In my opinion this is the most reliable way of rendering somebody unconscious.

For example, if a BJJ fighter is able to apply a choke hold on his opponent, providing that the opponent does not tap out first, he will generally be able to render his opponent unconscious very quickly.

Method 2 is much less reliable, firstly different people apparently are affected differently by heavy blows to the same area of the head. Secondly, such a blow will cause loss of consciousness by rattling/damaging the brain, causing neurons to misfire or not to work at all. This is a very unpredictable effect.

Over the years I have found the following factors pertaining to method 2:

The amount of superficial tissue damage caused by a blow to the head/face is irrelevant to any tissue damage or trauma to the brain itself, and thus irrelevant to rendering the person unconscious.

A blow to the head will cause more brain tissue damage/trauma at the other side of the head than at the point of impact. IE, a strike to the front will cause the head to rock back, the brain to collide with the back of the skull and therefore cause more damage/trauma to the brain at the back of the head.

Round strikes, hooks, strikes to the temple, side of the jaw, or any other attacks that cause the head and brain to be shaken sideways are much more likely to cause the damage/trauma required to knock a person out.

The ability for the person being struck to keep his head still and from being rocked or shook will greatly affect the possibility of them being knocked unconscious. Therefore, having strong neck muscles (like Mike Tyson for example) greatly reduces your chance to be KO'ed through a blow to the head, because it allows one to absorb these blows without the head/brain being rocked too hard.

Concluding, I would say - the most reliable way to render somebody unconscious is to interrupt their blood supply to the brain. IE: a properly applied choke hold. Boxers or stand-up fighters usually have to hit each other in the head many times before one of those hits is able to cause a KO.

Method 3 - controversial. Rendering somebody unconscious by attacking nerves on their body.

This idea was first brought up by Dillman and the Kyushojutsu section of MA. If you want to discuss Kyushojutsu and/or Dillman I'd be happy to do so, but that will require a whole new thread and a lot more of my time.
 
For me it always the ones that I don't see, when I am boxing I can take so real hard shots when I am ready for them, but its the one's that I never saw coming that really ring my bell!
 
Excellent thread BRR.
I have nothing really to add as I agrre with both power and placement as well as chokes being effective as well.

I just wanted to share.
I saw Johnny Tapia knock a guy out with a shot(left hook) to the solar plexus(or syphoid process).. First time I had ever seen a guy knocked out with a body shot. I'm assuming it's becasue he couldn't breathe due to the contracted syphoid.
I was amazed. Didn't know it could be done.
About a year later a partner got me with a twist kick in the same place. I can now relate.
 
Placement is key.

If you connect in either the Temple (could cause a lot of damage) or where the jaw bone connects to the skull (with a little bit of downward force) you will normally score a knockout.

Don't get me wrong, sheer power can most definitely turn someone's lights out, but it isn't needed.
 
Tom Treutlein said:
I don't understand the description of the cross-leg stance on that website listed, Shadow. Anyone care to explain?


I skimed over some of the stuff on that link... I closed the page when I read something about throwing punches from waist level... I wouldn't pay too much attention to the stuff on there if I were you.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
What do you guys think? How easy is it to turn somebody's lights out? how much power is needed?

Some guys seem to think a ton of power is needed, I think that placement of the strike is key... what do you guys think?

Placement is everything. I've seen guys getting killed or sent coma with one punch while others were beaten big time and could still walk and find their way home. That's why one of the first thing you'd learn as a LEO was placement: hitting someone and not be responsible of a 5M$ lawsuit.
 
manny78 said:
why one of the first thing you'd learn as a LEO was placement: hitting someone and not be responsible of a 5M$ lawsuit.



why i dont fight any more and i am too pretty to get my nose broken :artist:

i like to throw down sometimes but its not like the old days where after the fight ....thats it. shake hands or even help the fucked up guy up...



ppl come back for cheap shots and press charges etc :(
 
Yeah, I hate lawyers. I hope they all burn. Seriously. Such bullshit that people can't take a beating anymore. People need to learn to suck it up.
 
Tom Treutlein said:
Yeah, I hate lawyers. I hope they all burn. Seriously. Such bullshit that people can't take a beating anymore. People need to learn to suck it up.



LOL... It is always the hardcore shit talkers that run to get a lawyer first.
 
I think the term "Knockout Artisit" applies here. Most tough guys can take a lot of punishment if they see it coming. But when you can work combonations and land that punch/kick/knee/etc without them seeing it is where the highest chance of a KO is going to come.

Yes power helps a lot too, but I think landing that unenexpected blow on a sweet spot is key.
 
Has anyone on the board gotten KO'd with a liver shot? What is the mechanism behind a KO of that nature?
 
what area of the head is best to hit if going for a knockout?

I believe the 2 most prominent places are:
1) Temple (quite hard to hit)
2) Jaw (Im not sure about chin, but the jaw is a definate shot)

As for how much power? I would definately have to aggree that it all has to do with accuracy, and alot of the time its dependant on uncontrollable elements, such as the weakness of your opponent's nerves in that area of getting hit, or just the body's natural reaction of getting hit: "Oh shit! I was hit, this hurts, shut down!" or of a fighter who undergoes alot of hits and thinks "What the hell was that?" and turns around.

All in all, definately placement as opposed to power. Power can just break stuff, i really dont think its necessary to "knock someone out" though. :D
 
Temple shots seem to make people do the fish dance. Does a temple shot upset the inner ear somehow?
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Has anyone on the board gotten KO'd with a liver shot? What is the mechanism behind a KO of that nature?

i actually was... not in a fight but in a baseball game.

i got hit with a fastball right on the liver and it knocked me out cold.. i came too like half way towards the pitchers mound staring up at like 5 people.. they said i got hit and like spun around and stumbled towards the mound and then passed out..

not fun.. kinda embarassing but oh well..

but at least ive never been knocked out in sport or on the street (keeping fingers crossed)
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Has anyone on the board gotten KO'd with a liver shot? What is the mechanism behind a KO of that nature?


I'm not sure you'll be knocked uncosious from a liver shot... You'll be in so much pain it is hard to breath, you won't be able to get up off the canvas... You'll know you are there and in pain but just can't get up.
 
araiber said:
just the body's natural reaction of getting hit: "Oh shit! I was hit, this hurts, shut down!" :D


Good impersonation of a body reacting. LOL

Karma for U
 
Delahoya looked like he was in a world of hurt when Hopkins stopped him.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Delahoya looked like he was in a world of hurt when Hopkins stopped him.


yeah, I think that shot caught him during an inhale.
 
I agree with BRR: torquing your whole body on a hook to the chin is the best way to go for a KO (well, second-best if you're in a situation that allows you to do this with an elbow). This works especially well if you're very strong and a heavyweight, of course, because you will require less of a wind-up to deliver the blow with 'knockout power'. I've also seen guys get put on the ground with an open-handed slap to the ear...this is a measure of having their equilibrium fucked up moreso than having their brain rattled.
 
canadianhitman said:
I agree with BRR: torquing your whole body on a hook to the chin is the best way to go for a KO (well, second-best if you're in a situation that allows you to do this with an elbow). This works especially well if you're very strong and a heavyweight, of course, because you will require less of a wind-up to deliver the blow with 'knockout power'. I've also seen guys get put on the ground with an open-handed slap to the ear...this is a measure of having their equilibrium fucked up moreso than having their brain rattled.

ive never seen that strike in a real situation.. i think it would a blast to watch someone collapse from getting clapped
 
it is the punch that you do not see........ plain and simple or a well placed body shot !!! there is no recovering from that

trust me i know from experience
 
About 5 years ago I got hit in the temple lots of times while waiting for a class, I was right next to the deans office so I didnt wanna do anything and I thought he would stop(been in trouble with the dean b4 so...). I couldnt block cause I was feeling woozy after he got a couple of cheap shots to the temple, and I didnt know what to do since I was right next to the deans office and there was a fucking UPS guy next to his door(just couldnt get my thoughts together). So what I want to ask is, how can I tell if I have any sort of permanent damage to my brain?(didnt get knocked out, head just hurt for about a day or two)
 
Big Rick Rock said:

That was some great footage!

I definately need to check out more of his fights.

I really like that rolling kneebar he used against the ropes.. i wonder if he got the sub?

Is a punch to the head illegal there or just not preferred due to the lack of gloves? he was slapping people silly and it was really working!

I also really like how he switches from a roundhouse type kick to a front kick.

GREAT VID!!!!

Thanks Bro!
 
Judo Tom said:
That was some great footage!

I definately need to check out more of his fights.

I really like that rolling kneebar he used against the ropes.. i wonder if he got the sub?

Is a punch to the head illegal there or just not preferred due to the lack of gloves? he was slapping people silly and it was really working!

I also really like how he switches from a roundhouse type kick to a front kick.

GREAT VID!!!!

Thanks Bro!


He was fighting in a league where it was disallowed to punch to the head, only to the body.

Bas Rutten is the man!


-BRR
 
Bas was quite the wrecking machine back in the day.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Bas was quite the wrecking machine back in the day.


He Pwnoed Maurice Smith a couple of time... We all know Maurice aint no joke.

Hey Jacob... I though you was a Plat bro, what happened.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
As we touched on in the sucker punch thread in chat,the most violent KO's don't necessarily come from the hardest IMPACT,but rather from target placement(side of chin,temple)and punching THROUGH it,which twists the head quickly.This actually causes the cranium to rotate slightly around the brain,which results in the CNS short circuiting.
Pay attention to a lot of the fighters that never go down,you'll notice that their chin usually is literally stuck on their chests,so it's very difficult for an opponent to get that shot in that jolts their cranium.
Good discussion BRR.
Nice post Huck.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
He was fighting in a league where it was disallowed to punch to the head, only to the body.

Bas Rutten is the man!


-BRR
haha, i just downloaded best of bas rutten a couple weeks ago. awesome, awesome fighter.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
He Pwnoed Maurice Smith a couple of time... We all know Maurice aint no joke.

Hey Jacob... I though you was a Plat bro, what happened.

Something happened? As far as I know I'm still Platinum. At least the banner below the signature tells me I am.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Something happened? As far as I know I'm still Platinum. At least the banner below the signature tells me I am.


Hmmm... I don't know why it looked like you weren't. I guess I was mistaken.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
What do you guys think? How easy is it to turn somebody's lights out? how much power is needed?

Some guys seem to think a ton of power is needed, I think that placement of the strike is key... what do you guys think?

both is true honestly

if you catch someone with a hook the side to side action of the head can provide a ko with relativly little force (you still have to be trying you are rarely going to ko someone with light contact it has to be a fairly solid hit but you don't need a haymaker to do it)

ifyou wanna score a KO with a straight punch on the other hand you will probubly need to use everything you have and catch them coming forward as well
 
Strangle Hold said:
I need absolutely no force.
I can put you to sleep easier than I can put on my socks.
Not with a strike - with about a dozen different chokes.
Gracie Jiu Jitsu RULES!

is it your contention then that you maintain the choke w/out any force at all?
you might not need any explosive power but you are still using some strength and effort to keep the hold on or they would just push you away
 
Judo Tom said:
the easiest way for me to do it is with a throw onto concrete.. but its my technique that will knock him out not power..

i think the placement of a punch is what leads to a knockout and the power behind just increases the area where you can hit and get a knockout

also some people have a very very high tolerance for either getting knocked out or NOT getting knocked out. I dont know if its how there brain is wired or maybe their head is built different..


what area of the head is best to hit if going for a knockout?

I would say temple followed closely by jaw
but when someone lands on concreate from a throwyou cannot say there is no power there
that is quite an impact!
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Has anyone on the board gotten KO'd with a liver shot? What is the mechanism behind a KO of that nature?

not exactly
but I once triped and as I was getting up a kid wsa running and slammed into my back and I blacked out very very breifly
less then 2 seconds
but I don't know the mechanism or anything just wanted to share
 
I was getting off the toilet one time and stood up into the hand towel machine (to the back of the skull) Almost hit the floor. So, my recomendation is to carry a hand towel machine at all times. When neccesary, skull krush the F**ker. Works for me.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Has anyone on the board gotten KO'd with a liver shot? What is the mechanism behind a KO of that nature?

I may already ahve responded to this but I was very VERY breifly out of it after a hit to my back
I dunno that it was a liver hit I think it was more upper back
 
MikeinDaytona said:
I was getting off the toilet one time and stood up into the hand towel machine (to the back of the skull) Almost hit the floor. So, my recomendation is to carry a hand towel machine at all times. When neccesary, skull krush the F**ker. Works for me.

hahaha
I actually lol'd at that, litterally
 
I'm no expert, but I agree with BRR. Though I think some of it has to do with the person being hit. My buddy have a 5th of Jack broken over his face and he didn't even fall down let alone get knocked out. A lot of damage done to his face, but he still stood.
 
Judo Tom said:
what area of the head is best to hit if going for a knockout?


there is not much muscle in the jaw to withstand a blow.... put a quick strike to anyone's jaw and its light out partnah...
chokes are good but who the hell wants to roll around on the ground?.. if you're in a bad situation and there is no way to talk out of it, strike that jaw hard and fast and you'll be walking away not him... get under it though not down on it. puts the shizzle right to the core of the brain. Fighting is dumb though.. self protection is another thing. :)
 
Rex said:
I'm no expert, but I agree with BRR. Though I think some of it has to do with the person being hit. My buddy have a 5th of Jack broken over his face and he didn't even fall down let alone get knocked out. A lot of damage done to his face, but he still stood.

Causing tissue damage to someone's face actually decreases the likelyhood of a knockout because the force is getting transferred to the skin instead of the brain

If you hit someone with and without boxing gloves, with the same force, the gloved hit will be more likely to put them out

That's why in a fight I'd probably go for an open-handed face strike instead of a fist -- no danger to your hand, no danger of fluid exchange, higher chance of a knockout due to distributed force
 
Kane Fan said:
I hope to ko some people someday
but can you do it w/out really hurting them?


Yes, getting KOed doesn’t hurt at all.

The way it works in a nut shell: One second you are in the ring exchanging blows, then all of the sudden you start to see a sort of glitter like purple haze right in front of you and when it starts to clear you can see the ref and your corner guys are talking to you, one of them might even be fanning you with a towel. The ref might even have his fingers in your mouth trying to take out your mouth piece. For a few seconds you don't even remember where you are or what you were doing.
There is no recollection of getting hit, and most of the time you never even saw the strike coming. You might have a headache for a couple of days and maybe your neck feels a little cranked but you'll be fine...

The bad part about getting KOed in a street fight is that there is no ref there to stop the action. If you are both swinging and the other guy gets lucky and lands a wild eyes-closed haymaker to your chin and you are OUT, he can keep pounding on you.
While you are on the ground unable to defend yourself he can keep hitting you on the face over and over again. Punches, foot stops, while you are just laying there eyes rolled to the back of your head. If he is a drunk a-hole showing off in front of his friends, he'll beat you till he gets tired. You might not get hurt from the KO itself but you'll probably need stitches and god knows what else to repair the damage done while you where unconscious... Street fights are BAD! Avoid them!...
Or at least have some friends there that are willing to step in and stop the action if you get KTFO.
 
OK to knock someone out with a head shot you have to hit hard enough to jar the brain. It really doen't take a lot of power, but a well placed shot, like on the chin with a stright punch, on the upper part of the jaw with a hook or my favorite a punch right behind the ear. I have knocjed out quite a few people with this technique and didn't have to swing that hard. To do this though it usually requires you to counterpunch, which I love to do, but very efgective. Knocking someone out with a blow to the stomach on the other hand takes a great amount of force to accomplish with a single blow.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I'll never get tired of saying this.... A sharp, stiff knuckle sandwich to the chin is your best friend… You don’t need a lot of power, even though lading a power shot always feels good. Nothing feels better than feeling a guy’s face right thru your gloves, a fucking left hook that you throw with your whole body, you are on your toes, your hip whips across, your upper body follows, your shoulder crosses the line of his chin a couple of inches before your fist makes contact... WAAAM!

You should really try keeping your feet flat on tha ground brah, way too easy to knock a guy down who fights on his toes. Hmmm...then again, BJJ, ya I guess maybe bein on tha ground is part of your game.
 
easiest way to ko w/o injury is a choke..
 
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