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Ketosis....
- Thread starter starfish
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Keto ain't all its cracked to be. There are far better ways to diet. Just check out all the "bingeing" threads on the diet board.Being in ketosis means you feel like shit, can't think straight,don't get stronger, of course once your body gets used to it you do feel better, but that can take a while. Of course the real fun part is when you re-introduce carbs back into your diet. Do a search
IMHO keto sucks for us gals. Maybe a quick period to shed some water,but not long term.-val
IMHO keto sucks for us gals. Maybe a quick period to shed some water,but not long term.-val
vinylgroover
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Starfish,
Are you not concerned about the KETO diet given the type of work you do. Such a low carb diet can 'dull' the brain and make you a little disoriented at times. I guess you would want to be sharp as a tack at all times when diving, no?
Are you not concerned about the KETO diet given the type of work you do. Such a low carb diet can 'dull' the brain and make you a little disoriented at times. I guess you would want to be sharp as a tack at all times when diving, no?
JJFigure
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I cut on a low carb/high protein and fat diet, and I've never managed to achieve ketosis. I eat ~15 grams of carb/day, so you'd think I'd make it at some point during the 5 days I'm on carb restriction. However, I lose the fat I want, so I'm not too concerned about not hitting ketosis.
I know there are a ton of diets, and it's hard to figure out what works for your body. This is my fourth try, and I think I finally found something that works. Bottom line is you just have to play with your diet approach until you hit the right combo. Just because the "ketosis" approach works for someone else, doesn't mean it will work for you, but you'll never know unless you try.
I know there are a ton of diets, and it's hard to figure out what works for your body. This is my fourth try, and I think I finally found something that works. Bottom line is you just have to play with your diet approach until you hit the right combo. Just because the "ketosis" approach works for someone else, doesn't mean it will work for you, but you'll never know unless you try.
Yes, you'll never know unless you try. I never did adapt to a cyclical ketogenic diet, even after 6 dedicated weeks of trying. It was the worst I've ever felt, and I had some serious rebound/craving problems coming off of it. YMMV.
However, ketone excretion, as measured by urine strips, is not an accurate way to tell if you've acheived ketosis or not. If you've got your diet and water intake correct, you really shouldn't be pissing out concentrated ketones....you should be burning them for energy instead. High protein intakes will also inhibit ketosis.
But be warned if you DO try keto, that the first week or two usually feels horrible for most folks.
Guys, in general, seem to adapt better than women. There are some possible biochemical differences that may explain this, such as women can enter ketosis much more quickly and deeply than men thanks to their hormones, but are also more likely to experience rebound hyperglycemia/insulin resistance during any carb-up period (thanks again to hormones). I Imagine AAS would modify this to some extent, and if you go on a straight keto diet (eg Atkin's/epileptic) without carb-ups, it may not make a big difference in the long run which gender you are.
However, ketone excretion, as measured by urine strips, is not an accurate way to tell if you've acheived ketosis or not. If you've got your diet and water intake correct, you really shouldn't be pissing out concentrated ketones....you should be burning them for energy instead. High protein intakes will also inhibit ketosis.
But be warned if you DO try keto, that the first week or two usually feels horrible for most folks.
Guys, in general, seem to adapt better than women. There are some possible biochemical differences that may explain this, such as women can enter ketosis much more quickly and deeply than men thanks to their hormones, but are also more likely to experience rebound hyperglycemia/insulin resistance during any carb-up period (thanks again to hormones). I Imagine AAS would modify this to some extent, and if you go on a straight keto diet (eg Atkin's/epileptic) without carb-ups, it may not make a big difference in the long run which gender you are.
Side note: If you are grossly obese (eg actually HAVE 173 pounds to lose), then keto may be a good way to go because you can stay on it long term and not have to worry about rebound hyperglycemia. Plus your hormones/insulin sensitivity are so out of whack that you may NEED the shock of keto to get things back in 'balance'. My expereinces with clients on keto have all been with bodybuilders who are already reasonably lean and have no intention of staying on a low carb diet long term....in fact a long term keto diet (without carb-ups) simply will not work for a bodybuilder trying to gain/maintain maximum muscle. The diets that JJ and myself are talking about involve intentional high carb days every 5-10 days to ensure that you have enough muscle glycogen to keep training the muscles adequately.
Soooooo a keto is fine for losing tons of fat, a CKD for losing the last of that stubborn fat on a bodybuilding diet, and standard moderate carb/high protein for the rest of us who can't handle CKD.
Soooooo a keto is fine for losing tons of fat, a CKD for losing the last of that stubborn fat on a bodybuilding diet, and standard moderate carb/high protein for the rest of us who can't handle CKD.
