landser
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Tom Treutlein said:Kerry disgraced the uniform? I want to hear how.
Calling his fellow brothers in arms, "criminals", and attending and speaking at Jane (hanoi) Fonda rallies.
Tom Treutlein said:Kerry disgraced the uniform? I want to hear how.
chesty said:Disgraces is uniform, betrays his country and those fighting for it, then has the audacity to tell me that he is concerned about me in the foxhole? Holy shit! This dude actually believes the tripe he spews out.
chesty said:Except for the fact that he called all of the vietnam vets murders that went there to commit atrocities, was used by the communists to denounce and injure the men and women fighting in vietnam, through the medals he supposedly earned back at his country in contempt.
How was my pay cut? I have gotten a pay raise in the military every year since I joined the first time in 1983! A corporal makes almost twice what he did 15 years ago. How many can say they double their salary in that time and never leave the company and without fear of being fired or laid off?
Yeah, some unjust war huh? We were attacked, we had intelligence at the time that the president acted on and wow, some of us have been killed and wounded, guess we should have just waited untile he got the sanctions lifted, reconstitued his arsenal, then invaded another country or openly attacked us or England or whatever.
Suppose it is better to wait until you have been shot before shooting back!
What should we do about North Korea? Iran? Suppose we ought to just let them continue to build their nuclear weapons so they can shoot them at us. Then you all can say gee? Why didn't you do something about that?
My answer will be you told us it was wrong to defend ourselves. You took away my means of self defense, you took away my guns, you told me it was wrong to face my enemy and stop him. And while you are now screaming about your rights that you never defended, I will be too busy defending them for you.
As for Kerry, vote for him, when your taxes increase, when your cost of living goes through the roof and when he has finally decimated what little remains of our armed forces, be proud that you helped in that.
As for Bush, I would rather have a president that is a human who makes mistakes and admits it than someone who lies about lies.
He never went awol. He received an honorable discharge, was on acive duty for two years of his gaurd time, flew the jet he was trained to fly, etc. Not his fault his gaurd unit was not activated.
Hell, even the supposed papers proving all your claims were denounced as fakes and now some people may be going to jail over them.
Kerry doesn't care about you or I. All he cares about is himself. He wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, unless he stood to make money off of it or it would boost his ego and increase his popularity.
You all just don't get it. Going to war is never popular, it wasn't in WWI or WWII or Korea or Vietnam, but we did go and the times we let other countries and politics dictate how we conducted ourselves we got our asses kicked. When we controlled our military and our objectives were ours, we kicked ass.
Face it, better to have a president with the convictions of his beliefs than a lawyer who shifts his beliefs everytime the wind changes direction.
landser said:Calling his fellow brothers in arms, "criminals", and attending and speaking at Jane (hanoi) Fonda rallies.
chesty said:Except for the fact that he called all of the vietnam vets murders that went there to commit atrocities, was used by the communists to denounce and injure the men and women fighting in vietnam, through the medals he supposedly earned back at his country in contempt.
How was my pay cut? I have gotten a pay raise in the military every year since I joined the first time in 1983! A corporal makes almost twice what he did 15 years ago. How many can say they double their salary in that time and never leave the company and without fear of being fired or laid off?
Yeah, some unjust war huh? We were attacked, we had intelligence at the time that the president acted on and wow, some of us have been killed and wounded, guess we should have just waited untile he got the sanctions lifted, reconstitued his arsenal, then invaded another country or openly attacked us or England or whatever.
Suppose it is better to wait until you have been shot before shooting back!
What should we do about North Korea? Iran? Suppose we ought to just let them continue to build their nuclear weapons so they can shoot them at us. Then you all can say gee? Why didn't you do something about that?
My answer will be you told us it was wrong to defend ourselves. You took away my means of self defense, you took away my guns, you told me it was wrong to face my enemy and stop him. And while you are now screaming about your rights that you never defended, I will be too busy defending them for you.
As for Kerry, vote for him, when your taxes increase, when your cost of living goes through the roof and when he has finally decimated what little remains of our armed forces, be proud that you helped in that.
As for Bush, I would rather have a president that is a human who makes mistakes and admits it than someone who lies about lies.
He never went awol. He received an honorable discharge, was on acive duty for two years of his gaurd time, flew the jet he was trained to fly, etc. Not his fault his gaurd unit was not activated.
Hell, even the supposed papers proving all your claims were denounced as fakes and now some people may be going to jail over them.
Kerry doesn't care about you or I. All he cares about is himself. He wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, unless he stood to make money off of it or it would boost his ego and increase his popularity.
You all just don't get it. Going to war is never popular, it wasn't in WWI or WWII or Korea or Vietnam, but we did go and the times we let other countries and politics dictate how we conducted ourselves we got our asses kicked. When we controlled our military and our objectives were ours, we kicked ass.
Face it, better to have a president with the convictions of his beliefs than a lawyer who shifts his beliefs everytime the wind changes direction.
chesty said:So, does he need to come back here, label all of them murders and baby killers? Do you know how many were tried for desertion during WWII? It was like 20,000 or something. I wonder how many were tried for murder? rape?, etc. Kerry just didn't like the homecoming he got so figured a way to capitilize on it at the expense of others just doing what was asked of them. I suppose Kerry never killed anyone in anger while he was over there? I suppose Kerry would stand up today, apologize for his actions back in the states, apologize to the veterans he wrongly accused. Hmmm, even Jane Fonda finally acknowledged that she was wrong and apologized. (not sure she believed it, but she did make an attempt)
Kerry is an opportunist who will let nothing stand in his way, including having others silenced. I would rather trust the devil than Kerry. At least the devil is straight up with me tells me that I will be in hell serving him if I follow him.
You never know with Kerry when you will get your ticket punched and to where.
chesty said:Except for the fact that he called all of the vietnam vets murders that went there to commit atrocities, was used by the communists to denounce and injure the men and women fighting in vietnam, through the medals he supposedly earned back at his country in contempt.
How was my pay cut? I have gotten a pay raise in the military every year since I joined the first time in 1983! A corporal makes almost twice what he did 15 years ago. How many can say they double their salary in that time and never leave the company and without fear of being fired or laid off?
Yeah, some unjust war huh? We were attacked, we had intelligence at the time that the president acted on and wow, some of us have been killed and wounded, guess we should have just waited untile he got the sanctions lifted, reconstitued his arsenal, then invaded another country or openly attacked us or England or whatever.
Suppose it is better to wait until you have been shot before shooting back!
What should we do about North Korea? Iran? Suppose we ought to just let them continue to build their nuclear weapons so they can shoot them at us. Then you all can say gee? Why didn't you do something about that?
My answer will be you told us it was wrong to defend ourselves. You took away my means of self defense, you took away my guns, you told me it was wrong to face my enemy and stop him. And while you are now screaming about your rights that you never defended, I will be too busy defending them for you.
As for Kerry, vote for him, when your taxes increase, when your cost of living goes through the roof and when he has finally decimated what little remains of our armed forces, be proud that you helped in that.
As for Bush, I would rather have a president that is a human who makes mistakes and admits it than someone who lies about lies.
He never went awol. He received an honorable discharge, was on acive duty for two years of his gaurd time, flew the jet he was trained to fly, etc. Not his fault his gaurd unit was not activated.
Hell, even the supposed papers proving all your claims were denounced as fakes and now some people may be going to jail over them.
Kerry doesn't care about you or I. All he cares about is himself. He wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, unless he stood to make money off of it or it would boost his ego and increase his popularity.
You all just don't get it. Going to war is never popular, it wasn't in WWI or WWII or Korea or Vietnam, but we did go and the times we let other countries and politics dictate how we conducted ourselves we got our asses kicked. When we controlled our military and our objectives were ours, we kicked ass.
Face it, better to have a president with the convictions of his beliefs than a lawyer who shifts his beliefs everytime the wind changes direction.
The_Eviscerator said:AMEN, Kerry is a Traitor and Piece of Shit.
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