Just how much test do you really need with tren?

[gorillahung]

I was going to run my tren enanthate at 400mg/wk along with 100mg test cyp./ wk. The test cyp is pharma grade from Pfizer. I hear people saying that they take 500 mg of test with their tren. Sounds crazt to me. If tren is potent, why would you need so much test? 500mg/test is a cycle in itself.

 

[stevesmi]

I've ran tren by itself many times. The answer is you don't need to stack anything with Tren. If u can't gain on just 200 mg a week tren alone then ur training six big time. You really don't even have to have a good diet to gain on the stuff

 

[auson]

I'm on sus at 500mg and tren 400 mg right now I was doing 250mg sus and 400mg tren
I haven't noticed any difference what so ever

 

[SwollenMember_18]

I've ran it all the ways now, 2:1 test:tren, 1:1 test:tren, 2:1 tren:test

Put on some serious size with option A, but had the puffy test look

Felt the best mentally with option B, got real dry, but had some sides (decreased appetite, insomnia, brutal night sweats)

Felt like shit with option C, useless if I wasn't training, major fatigue, acne, minor sleep issues. but wholy shit did I ever peel out while growing simultaneously. Got bigger, stronger, and leaner all together. I think if I had been running caber this would have been the best bet.

All in all I guess it's goal/feel dependant, once you've played around a bit with doses you'll find what's best for you. 400mg test/800mg tren/60mg winny was by far my favourite cycle....

 

[Nelson Montana]

Tren is a fascinating drug. It really is the king of steroids. The only thing more effective than tren is more tren.

I've been tempted to take it, but as effective as it is, it's one of the most, if not THE most, unhealthy steroids you can take. So I won't.

 

[stevesmi]

Tren is a fascinating drug. It really is the king of steroids. The only thing more effective than tren is more tren.

I've been tempted to take it, but as effective as it is, it's one of the most, if not THE most, unhealthy steroids you can take. So I won't.

yes.. if you live an active lifestyle (bicycling, fishing, running, swimming, hiking) then it sucks to use it. I've gotten heat exhaustion on the stuff, the key is you gotta drink ALOT on it or you are screwed. and don't bother using it during the hot months

 

[gorillahung]

You shouldn't use it in hot months? I guess I'll put off my cycle until late September.

 

[stevesmi]

You shouldn't use it in hot months? I guess I'll put off my cycle until late September.

you can get away with it but you would have to stay out of the sun and hydrate A LOT

not to mention a lot of guys get night sweats on it

so its more comfortable to use it during the cooler months.

if you live in Canada or Norway or something, then go for it year round.. but if you live in a warm climate then save it for the cooler months

 

[Nelson Montana]

That's just masking the issue. The stuff does bad things to the body. I'm a bodybuilder because I want GOOD things for my body. : )

 

[stevesmi]

That's just masking the issue. The stuff does bad things to the body. I'm a bodybuilder because I want GOOD things for my body. : )

i'm with ya nelson.. I haven't touched tren in a year cause I have been focusing on my health and wellness #1.

unfortunately though NOTHING and I mean NOTHING gets me as strong as tren does, and makes me feel like superman. I find myself breaking things on tren by mistake like lightbulbs or glasses. the stuff gives you superhuman strength. at some point when I want to push to a new PR I am going to need to run it.