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Juice in Hollywood

was a good thread on that a few months back..

anybody has the link?
 
I've gotta get this off my chest. I am so fucking sick of girls saying how buff guys like edward norton and toby maguire (in spiderman) are. For all the dumb bitches, shut the fuck up. Also whats up with Vin Diesel? I mean the guy is uglier than fuck and all he had was a good body early in his career (Pitch Black) Then in his next movie (Fast and the furious) he got smaller but was still respectable, and in XXX he looked like a fucking goof. I mean, could you be more obvious?

Also since I'm on a rant anyways, whats up with girls who have a brother who's a "bodybuilder" and has 25 inch arms. Oh, but he doesn't work out anymore and he's fat but he was huge. Pisses me off when girls talk about BB when they have no fucking idea what they are talking about. Wow, I feel better now. :D
 
Vin is cool. I don't think he juices, he has no vascularity and the screen makes you look a lot bigger than you really are. I think Stallone and Dolph did for Rocky IV. I smell an over-abundance of Winstrol for that flick.
 
Little Chris, take a look at vin diesel's progression from Pitch Black to XXX and tell me he doesn't juice.

Rocky 5 is one of the funniest movies ever made. Ivan Drago is villianized for using AAS, while in reality Rocky was on way heavier shit. Makes me laugh, I think I'll pop that in the vcr and watch it again.
 
The funniest thing I ever saw at a Hollywood meeting:

Luke Perry, the skinny ass wimp from 90210, was up for a part playing this legendary rodio guy who later became a Hollywood stuntman. The guy was a real hero in the film industry... worked as John Wayne's stunt man... did some really great stuff. By coincidence, a guy named Terry Leonard was at the office. He was friends with the director. Terry was in his own right a huge legend in the stunt industry... and he had followed in the footsteps to the rodeo/stuntman guy... knew him personally in his younger days... had worked for him... etc..

As Luke Perry sat there telling them how he was going to be playing this legendary stuntman rodeo star... Terry Leonard looked at him, sneered, and said, "Boy, you better get pumping some iron."
 
Wesley Snipes in Blade and Blade2 was impressive. (I'm not implying juice just saying compared to previous movies, it was impressive)
 
SofaGeorge said:
The funniest thing I ever saw at a Hollywood meeting:

Luke Perry, the skinny ass wimp from 90210, was up for a part playing this legendary rodio guy who later became a Hollywood stuntman. The guy was a real hero in the film industry... worked as John Wayne's stunt man... did some really great stuff. By coincidence, a guy named Terry Leonard was at the office. He was friends with the director. Terry was in his own right a huge legend in the stunt industry... and he had followed in the footsteps to the rodeo/stuntman guy... knew him personally in his younger days... had worked for him... etc..

As Luke Perry sat there telling them how he was going to be playing this legendary stuntman rodeo star... Terry Leonard looked at him, sneered, and said, "Boy, you better get pumping some iron."
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you claim to know/work with alot of stars. what do you do for a living? and can you hook me up? :)
 
jubei said:
Little Chris, take a look at vin diesel's progression from Pitch Black to XXX and tell me he doesn't juice.

Rocky 5 is one of the funniest movies ever made. Ivan Drago is villianized for using AAS, while in reality Rocky was on way heavier shit. Makes me laugh, I think I'll pop that in the vcr and watch it again.
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I really don't see Vin as a juicer. If you look at his stats he's 6'1 175-190lbs "depending on role". That's not that big, plus look at the guys he plays with...Barry Pepper, Seth Green, Ja Rule, the blonde guy from F & F. Not big peeps.

Now If you saw "Exit Wounds" there's a blck guy in there that is jacked, he may be a juicer.
 
little chris said:


I really don't see Vin as a juicer. If you look at his stats he's 6'1 175-190lbs "depending on role". That's not that big, plus look at the guys he plays with...Barry Pepper, Seth Green, Ja Rule, the blonde guy from F & F. Not big peeps.

Now If you saw "Exit Wounds" there's a blck guy in there that is jacked, he may be a juicer.
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DMX?

Tv added about 15 pounds...

http://astro.ocis.temple.edu/~khowlett/dmx1.jpg

Although he used to be alot bigger than he is now, that coke really fucked him up.
 
Not DMX, the black Sgt. in the movie, I forget his name but he was in the locker room when Segal was gettin zapped by the taser gun.
 
1) It amazes me how obsessed many guys are about Holloywoood stars. Do you fantasize about how big their cocks are as well? Get real. Yeah, maybe its interesting to point out someone as a "body type" for the sake of discussion ... but far too many guys on these boards are far far too obsessed with male movie stars.

2) Its interesting how lazy many guys have become. I am sorry, but I really think many guys on this board are young kids who dont know what its like to really work out, and be disciplined. Juice? Ed Norton? Tobey freegin spiderman? Get freegin real here. Neither was THAT jacked at all. Big deal. They dropped a bit of body fat, added a bit of mass. Frankly a half decent physique and good lighting with well-applied body makeup (yes, they can "draw" abs on you) can make a half-decent physique look like what Norton did in Am. History X.

3) WHY DO MANY OF YOU GUYS ASSUME THAT ANY HALF DECENT BODY HAD TO BE CREATED USING JUICE?!?!?! How lazy are people becoming? Ed Norton? Carrot top? Vin Diesel? Brad Pitt? EVERY ONE OF THEIR PHYSIQUES can be accomplished naturally by most men if they simply stay focused and dedicated to a program, including working out AND DIET over time.

4) Many of the rants I see are people being jealous about wanting everyone ELSE to somehow worship them and their body. DO THIS SPORT FOR YOURSELF, NOT FOR PEOPLE TO ADORE YOU.

Some guys work at getting big big big and then get pissed when their bloated selves hear people admire the ripped and toned look of the fitness model (and Tobey Maguire) types. Other guys work to get ripped ripped ripped and then whine when others admire size, shear strenth and mass. DO THIS FOR YOURSELF. CHOOSE YOUR TARGETS AND GOALS AND BE IN IT FOR YOU.

If you are working out just for the approval of others, that a lot of time and effort lost on a lost cause. You will NEVER get everyone else to agree on whwta the "ideal" physique is.

And get off the fascination with the Male Stars. These people have an ENTIRE TEAM OF TALENTED PEOPLE WHOSE VERY JOB IT IS TO MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD. Makeup, Hair, abs drawn on, lighting done to cast shadows which make them look more ripped, a precise amount of oil or water srayed on them to make their physique look its best, Cameras, and photographic pros whose very JOB it is to Bring Out The Best in the Star. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS are behind the movie, as a PRODUCT and they will do everything they can to MAXIMIZE the look of the Stars.

And guys get all concerned over looking like wittle Tobey, or like Eddie Norton.

Instead of renting DVDs and staring a guy's abs, why not go to the gym and work out? Or put down that big ass jar of peanut butter which most guys "bulk" with, and do some cardio?

Guys - Reality check time.

Have you ever seen pics of chicks, starts. with and without makeup? Its unreal - the difference. Cameron Diaz and Pam Anderson are prime examples, of how AMAZING a difference can be made using the right makeup. Well guys, they may not be AS good at making up men's bodies, but making male stars look great is an industry, so stop worrying about it.

Rant mode off.

Be well.

P.S. - Stallone was sorta obvious in the later Rocky movies. Granted. But you guys who mention ANY of these other names and inquire what "gear" they were on, are embarassing yourselves.
 
I actually didn't cared too much about the topic... But hey I had nothing to do better than relax and reading the thread. The post who claims that Diesel prolly juiced since he's lost a shit load of muscle froum Pitch Black to XXX is right. I'm not a action movie fan at all, so I went to a website I found and looked at pics from both movies. Well, I thought he's never been juicing because he's too small. Well taking a look at those pics made me wonder if he actually did juiced.

http://www.acc.umu.se/~maria/VD/pitchblack/movieshots16.jpg

http://www.acc.umu.se/~maria/VD/xxx2/xxx-33.jpg

http://www.acc.umu.se/~maria/VD/xxx2/xxx-69.jpg
 
Riker29 said:
1) It amazes me how obsessed many guys are about Holloywoood stars. Do you fantasize about how big their cocks are as well? Get real. Yeah, maybe its interesting to point out someone as a "body type" for the sake of discussion ... but far too many guys on these boards are far far too obsessed with male movie stars.

2) Its interesting how lazy many guys have become. I am sorry, but I really think many guys on this board are young kids who dont know what its like to really work out, and be disciplined. Juice? Ed Norton? Tobey freegin spiderman? Get freegin real here. Neither was THAT jacked at all. Big deal. They dropped a bit of body fat, added a bit of mass. Frankly a half decent physique and good lighting with well-applied body makeup (yes, they can "draw" abs on you) can make a half-decent physique look like what Norton did in Am. History X.

3) WHY DO MANY OF YOU GUYS ASSUME THAT ANY HALF DECENT BODY HAD TO BE CREATED USING JUICE?!?!?! How lazy are people becoming? Ed Norton? Carrot top? Vin Diesel? Brad Pitt? EVERY ONE OF THEIR PHYSIQUES can be accomplished naturally by most men if they simply stay focused and dedicated to a program, including working out AND DIET over time.

4) Many of the rants I see are people being jealous about wanting everyone ELSE to somehow worship them and their body. DO THIS SPORT FOR YOURSELF, NOT FOR PEOPLE TO ADORE YOU.

Some guys work at getting big big big and then get pissed when their bloated selves hear people admire the ripped and toned look of the fitness model (and Tobey Maguire) types. Other guys work to get ripped ripped ripped and then whine when others admire size, shear strenth and mass. DO THIS FOR YOURSELF. CHOOSE YOUR TARGETS AND GOALS AND BE IN IT FOR YOU.

If you are working out just for the approval of others, that a lot of time and effort lost on a lost cause. You will NEVER get everyone else to agree on whwta the "ideal" physique is.

And get off the fascination with the Male Stars. These people have an ENTIRE TEAM OF TALENTED PEOPLE WHOSE VERY JOB IT IS TO MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD. Makeup, Hair, abs drawn on, lighting done to cast shadows which make them look more ripped, a precise amount of oil or water srayed on them to make their physique look its best, Cameras, and photographic pros whose very JOB it is to Bring Out The Best in the Star. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS are behind the movie, as a PRODUCT and they will do everything they can to MAXIMIZE the look of the Stars.

And guys get all concerned over looking like wittle Tobey, or like Eddie Norton.

Instead of renting DVDs and staring a guy's abs, why not go to the gym and work out? Or put down that big ass jar of peanut butter which most guys "bulk" with, and do some cardio?

Guys - Reality check time.

Have you ever seen pics of chicks, starts. with and without makeup? Its unreal - the difference. Cameron Diaz and Pam Anderson are prime examples, of how AMAZING a difference can be made using the right makeup. Well guys, they may not be AS good at making up men's bodies, but making male stars look great is an industry, so stop worrying about it.

Rant mode off.

Be well.

P.S. - Stallone was sorta obvious in the later Rocky movies. Granted. But you guys who mention ANY of these other names and inquire what "gear" they were on, are embarassing yourselves.
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Best post I've read in a while.
 
Wow Riker, you sure told me. Learn to read you fucking jerkoff.
 
DepressiveJuice said:


you claim to know/work with alot of stars. what do you do for a living? and can you hook me up? :)
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I used to be a writer/producer... film and TV... before I switched to doing infomercials.

It was a blast. I worked on the Paramount, Warner Bros, and Sony lots.. mostly... used to get to hang out in starship Enterprise to eat my lunch on breaks.

All teh shows were jammed together. you got to see everybody. Meet some... watch others.

One of the highlights of my youth... I was carrying a big box across the lot one day. Red Foxx, Richard Pryor, Denzel Washington... and pretty much a who's who of all teh world's top black actors were sitting ina group outsidethe stage on a break between shooting Harlem Nights... and some other stuff. My box was heavy and I set it down... not realzing they were all a bunch of stars till I stopped and looked for a minute. red Foxx started giving me shit... he was really funny... makiing fun of my box... my hair... my shoes... He had everybody howling. there wasn't anything about me he couldn't ridicule and make a joke out of. He had James Earl Jones and Richard Pryor rolling on the ground.

All I could thing was, "Oh boy! Red Foxx is giving me shit!"

It's hard to explain but having Red foxx tell everybody what a dumbass I was was one of the highlights of my life.
 
jubei said:
Wow Riker, you sure told me. Learn to read you fucking jerkoff.
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A bit defensive there aren't we? LOL

I dont even know who you are. You are flattering yourself by thinking that I somehow was like going out of my way to make an attack at you.
 
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Vin Diesel juices, or at least used to. During a BET interview for Fast and the Furious he mentioned using/experimenting in the past. I highly doubt he is juicing these days. If you watch Knockaround Guys (which was shot in 99) and Pitch Black he was easily 20-30lbs heavier than he is today. He is almost a twig these days. Watch XXX, he looks HORRIBLE.

As for guys like Ed Norton, Brad Pitt, I don't think so. These are guys with tons of money. They can hire the best personal trainers, have special meals made 24/7, etc, etc. It's not like they look like Arnold, Dolph or Sly here. Ed and Brad looked about 170-180 ripped lbs each. That can be done by just about anyone without juice. Especially stars with everything at their disposal.
 
I love the 3rd point of rikers rant

3) WHY DO MANY OF YOU GUYS ASSUME THAT ANY HALF DECENT BODY HAD TO BE CREATED USING JUICE?!?!?! How lazy are people becoming? Ed Norton? Carrot top? Vin Diesel? Brad Pitt? EVERY ONE OF THEIR PHYSIQUES can be accomplished naturally by most men if they simply stay focused and dedicated to a program, including working out AND DIET over time.


LMFAO at carrot top being in that goup.
 
Riker29 said:
1) It amazes me how obsessed many guys are about Holloywoood stars. Do you fantasize about how big their cocks are as well? Get real. Yeah, maybe its interesting to point out someone as a "body type" for the sake of discussion ... but far too many guys on these boards are far far too obsessed with male movie stars.

2) Its interesting how lazy many guys have become. I am sorry, but I really think many guys on this board are young kids who dont know what its like to really work out, and be disciplined. Juice? Ed Norton? Tobey freegin spiderman? Get freegin real here. Neither was THAT jacked at all. Big deal. They dropped a bit of body fat, added a bit of mass. Frankly a half decent physique and good lighting with well-applied body makeup (yes, they can "draw" abs on you) can make a half-decent physique look like what Norton did in Am. History X.

3) WHY DO MANY OF YOU GUYS ASSUME THAT ANY HALF DECENT BODY HAD TO BE CREATED USING JUICE?!?!?! How lazy are people becoming? Ed Norton? Carrot top? Vin Diesel? Brad Pitt? EVERY ONE OF THEIR PHYSIQUES can be accomplished naturally by most men if they simply stay focused and dedicated to a program, including working out AND DIET over time.

4) Many of the rants I see are people being jealous about wanting everyone ELSE to somehow worship them and their body. DO THIS SPORT FOR YOURSELF, NOT FOR PEOPLE TO ADORE YOU.

Some guys work at getting big big big and then get pissed when their bloated selves hear people admire the ripped and toned look of the fitness model (and Tobey Maguire) types. Other guys work to get ripped ripped ripped and then whine when others admire size, shear strenth and mass. DO THIS FOR YOURSELF. CHOOSE YOUR TARGETS AND GOALS AND BE IN IT FOR YOU.

If you are working out just for the approval of others, that a lot of time and effort lost on a lost cause. You will NEVER get everyone else to agree on whwta the "ideal" physique is.

And get off the fascination with the Male Stars. These people have an ENTIRE TEAM OF TALENTED PEOPLE WHOSE VERY JOB IT IS TO MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD. Makeup, Hair, abs drawn on, lighting done to cast shadows which make them look more ripped, a precise amount of oil or water srayed on them to make their physique look its best, Cameras, and photographic pros whose very JOB it is to Bring Out The Best in the Star. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS are behind the movie, as a PRODUCT and they will do everything they can to MAXIMIZE the look of the Stars.

And guys get all concerned over looking like wittle Tobey, or like Eddie Norton.

Instead of renting DVDs and staring a guy's abs, why not go to the gym and work out? Or put down that big ass jar of peanut butter which most guys "bulk" with, and do some cardio?

Guys - Reality check time.

Have you ever seen pics of chicks, starts. with and without makeup? Its unreal - the difference. Cameron Diaz and Pam Anderson are prime examples, of how AMAZING a difference can be made using the right makeup. Well guys, they may not be AS good at making up men's bodies, but making male stars look great is an industry, so stop worrying about it.

Rant mode off.

Be well.

P.S. - Stallone was sorta obvious in the later Rocky movies. Granted. But you guys who mention ANY of these other names and inquire what "gear" they were on, are embarassing yourselves.
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Hell yeah!!! What a bunch of fucking panises! I was bigger than Ed Norton natural at age 18 and I started at 155lbs at 6'!! Ed Norton was SKINNY

Brad Pitt?

Are you shitting me?

Who the fuck cares.

I'll tell you what, at chemicalmuscle, these threads will be cocked locked and blocked by me...I'm so sick of it
 
Yeah...ok, I started this post because I was curious. However, I now feel obligated to clarify the intentions for this post since people like Riker29 (most obviously) and others TOTALLY misunderstood.

Its not the fact that guys like Ed Norton, and Spiderman are HUGE...they aren't. Its the fact that they looked like scrawny little bitches...then all of a sudden a movie comes out, and they've got a whole lot more muscle than they used to.
 
Ok, I have to get this off my chest. What the fuck is up with everyone trying to say "this person or that person does or doesn't juice"!!??? Excuss me, but we all know alot of people who juice. The average juicehead that I've met looks about as impressive as Carrot Top. I know guys who use a gram of test a week, and have been juicing for 4 or 5 years and they don't evenlook like they workout. Like 200 ibs @ 18% bodyfat. Fuck, I know a guy who was skinny with abes at 135 ibs on hid 5th cycle of tren/winstol/equipoise. The point is most people who have done a few cycles have absolutely nothing going for their body, so how can you look at an actor who is in decent shape and determine that you think he is natural or not without making yourself sound like a total dumbass??? Good, I feel much better now...
 
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BodyByFinaplix said:
Ok, I have to get this off my chest. What the fuck is up with everyone trying to say "this person or that person does or doesn't juice"!!??? Excuss me, but we all know alot of people who juice. The average juicehead that I've met looks about as impressive as Carrot Top. I know guys who use a gram of test a week, and have been juicing for 4 or 5 years and they don't evenlook like they workout. Like 200 ibs @ 18% bodyfat. Fuck, I know a guy who was skinny with abes at 135 ibs on hid 5th cycle of tren/fina/equipoise. The point is most people who have done a few cycles have absolutely nothing going for their body, so how can you look at an actor who is in decent shape and determine that you think he is natural or not without making yourself sound like a total dumbass??? Good, I feel much better now...
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Interesting that no one has ever stated this before - and it is a very dead on accurate bit of commentary on the topic.
 
NapoleanComplex said:
Yeah...ok, I started this post because I was curious. However, I now feel obligated to clarify the intentions for this post since people like Riker29 (most obviously) and others TOTALLY misunderstood.

Its not the fact that guys like Ed Norton, and Spiderman are HUGE...they aren't. Its the fact that they looked like scrawny little bitches...then all of a sudden a movie comes out, and they've got a whole lot more muscle than they used to.
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Fuck you Webster. J/K
 
perception vs. reality..................

the first time i viewed ed norton in "X" at one of the few big screen theatres left, he looked huge and jacked to me.....i was convinced he juiced for the role.

about a year later i rented the video and viewed it on my mitusibishi big screen tv.......he looked good but not THAT good. my perception of him was not what he actually was.




now to add fuel to the flames: how about nick cage in "conair"? that dude had added and dropped at least 40 pounds of mass throughout his movie career......one of my favorite actors of his generation.
 
NapoleanComplex said:
Yeah...ok, I started this post because I was curious. However, I now feel obligated to clarify the intentions for this post since people like Riker29 (most obviously) and others TOTALLY misunderstood.

Its not the fact that guys like Ed Norton, and Spiderman are HUGE...they aren't. Its the fact that they looked like scrawny little bitches...then all of a sudden a movie comes out, and they've got a whole lot more muscle than they used to.
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Yeah, the point I was making though (beyond many guys unhealthy obsession with Male Stars) is that none of those physiques require juice to attain.

They are not THAT great, and can be achieved naturally.

The assumption that "they must juice", to me, indicates that people have lost site of the 2 aspects of this sport which are far far far more imprtant than juice, training and diet.

Training and diet alone can achive those physiques, period.

And if people assume that those physiques NEEDED gear to achive, then these people do NOT know what CAN be achived by training and diet and therefore are probaby NOT doing these properly!

If you are not doing these properly, then even using gear wont have that much of an effect anyway!

Therefore, we see these skinny geeks doing like 750 mgs of test, and still not growing (bad training and/or diet). Or the bloated pigs who want to know "what gear will get me ripped" becuase he is too fat ((bad training and/or diet). They are all headed down blind alleys.

Assuming that any dude who looks even half decent uses gear, is an EXCUSE. Its a mean to JUSTIFY the fact that most guys dont train properly (and that includes overtraining, many many gusy do that) or watch their diet.

After all "he looks kinda good, he must juice" is a rush to judgement.
 
Suck my dick you fucking fag.
 
Riker just karma bombed me , and I was almost at 2 dots. Also he claims his post has nothing to do with mine, but check out the refrences to my original post, judge for yourself:

My original post:

I've gotta get this off my chest. I am so fucking sick of girls saying how buff guys like edward norton and toby maguire (in spiderman) are. For all the dumb bitches, shut the fuck up. Also whats up with Vin Diesel? I mean the guy is uglier than fuck and all he had was a good body early in his career (Pitch Black) Then in his next movie (Fast and the furious) he got smaller but was still respectable, and in XXX he looked like a fucking goof. I mean, could you be more obvious?

Rikers post:

It amazes me how obsessed many guys are about Holloywoood stars. Do you fantasize about how big their cocks are as well? Get real...
...Its interesting how lazy many guys have become. I am sorry, but I really think many guys on this board are young kids who dont know what its like to really work out, and be disciplined. Juice? Ed Norton? Tobey freegin spiderman? Get freegin real here. Neither was THAT jacked at all. Big deal. They dropped a bit of body fat, added a bit of mass. Frankly a half decent physique and good lighting with well-applied body makeup (yes, they can "draw" abs on you) can make a half-decent physique look like what Norton did in Am. History X.

3) WHY DO MANY OF YOU GUYS ASSUME THAT ANY HALF DECENT BODY HAD TO BE CREATED USING JUICE?!?!?! How lazy are people becoming? Ed Norton? Carrot top? Vin Diesel? Brad Pitt? EVERY ONE OF THEIR PHYSIQUES can be accomplished naturally by most men if they simply stay focused and dedicated to a program, including working out AND DIET over time.

Whats more, I guarantee I have a better body than Riker.
 
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jubei said:
Riker just karma bombed me , and I was almost at 2 dots. Also he claims his post has nothing to do with mine, but check out the refrences to my original post, judge for yourself:

My original post:

I've gotta get this off my chest. I am so fucking sick of girls saying how buff guys like edward norton and toby maguire (in spiderman) are. For all the dumb bitches, shut the fuck up. Also whats up with Vin Diesel? I mean the guy is uglier than fuck and all he had was a good body early in his career (Pitch Black) Then in his next movie (Fast and the furious) he got smaller but was still respectable, and in XXX he looked like a fucking goof. I mean, could you be more obvious?

Rikers post:

It amazes me how obsessed many guys are about Holloywoood stars. Do you fantasize about how big their cocks are as well? Get real...
...Its interesting how lazy many guys have become. I am sorry, but I really think many guys on this board are young kids who dont know what its like to really work out, and be disciplined. Juice? Ed Norton? Tobey freegin spiderman? Get freegin real here. Neither was THAT jacked at all. Big deal. They dropped a bit of body fat, added a bit of mass. Frankly a half decent physique and good lighting with well-applied body makeup (yes, they can "draw" abs on you) can make a half-decent physique look like what Norton did in Am. History X.

3) WHY DO MANY OF YOU GUYS ASSUME THAT ANY HALF DECENT BODY HAD TO BE CREATED USING JUICE?!?!?! How lazy are people becoming? Ed Norton? Carrot top? Vin Diesel? Brad Pitt? EVERY ONE OF THEIR PHYSIQUES can be accomplished naturally by most men if they simply stay focused and dedicated to a program, including working out AND DIET over time.

Whats more, I guarantee I have a better body than Riker you fucking faggot big mouth bitch.
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You talked about vin diesel...he didn't say a word about vin diesel...I don't see any reference to you, or anything you said, in his post.

Besides you guys are saying the same thing: these guys aren't that big, they have DECENT bodies at best...you don't need juice to get those results.

I can see you being mad about the bad karma, but you DID insult him.
 
Actually he makes reference to edward norton, toby maguire, and vin diesel just a coincidence that I stated those exact 3 names in my post. Aslo I help ALOT of people to get those dots, especially when you don't have platinum so stay the fuck away from my Karma.
 
The Terminator said:
This thread inevitably comes up every few months...and a few posts down people will be asking well what about Carrot Top, Willis (from different Strokes), Brad Pitt, etc....this will end in a flame war, these always do...
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It's true, I am a predicator of the future. :D
 
jubei said:
Suck my dick you fucking fag.
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Me thinks he doth protest too much.

LOL.

Grow up - hey guess what? I dont know who you are, dont care, never tried making a slam at you! You slammed me directly, I gave you ONE bad karma point (if more occurred, I didnt do it)! Thats what its for. Boo hoo. LOL

Arent we sensitive? Relax dude, you are taking this way way way to personal and making yourself look childish. Maybe I DID hit a nerve there - huh?

Reading back to see what you DID say (like it matters) I note that you were the guy who expressed frustration at hearing chicks and people go on and on about how ripped certain people were, people who in your opinion are not that ripped. Hey man, that was my point regarding - DONT DO THIS SPORT FOR THE APPROVAL OF OTHERS. Do it for YOU.

If you think that this sport will make everyone "approve? or somehow admire you, if you are looking for external means to inflate your self-confidence, they hardly work at all. YOU need to be what YOU think is right, choose the body YOU want and do it for YOU. No matter WHAT body you work for, and get, there will be some people who think you are too big, too small, too skinny, too fat, etc.

Ultimately you have to do this for yourself, set your own standards and goals. If you think this will get you the approval of "everyone else", it wont.

Hoping that EVERYONE ELSE will go "wow" and somehow bolster your self-confidence, wont work.

And your reaction to this, frankly, is embarassing yourself. You are falling right into behaving like a person who needs some more confidence, because you whined about the fact that chicks somehow dont like the body type that you chose, and now you are whining as if the whole world is out to get you or conspired somehow to make you look bad.

Anyway, one of the thing I do is teach men how to get more self-confidence, and also how to meet and seduce chicks. I have seen this scenario far far far too often. Do what you want bro. Protest more, you just prove my point. By the way, I wont provide much more insight, I charge $100 an hour for personal coaching and my free time for you is just about done.

Anyway, personal little whine fests, and those who do them, arent worth my time. Whine away. I had nothing personal against you dude but for some reason you have a major major stick up your ass.
 
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NapoleanComplex said:
I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to impress others (girls). If that's what makes you happy then do it.
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Of course!

The thing is that no matter what you do, you won't get all of them to like you, you will never have a body that all of them like.

The simple fact is that the body type that many "bodybuilders" want is really not what most women find attractive. Fitness models and male models look the way they do for a reason - thats what a lot of women want.

Looking good will get your more attention. Looking good will have more women interested. But you need to do what YOU want and selct YOUR goals, becuase you will never get all of the women to agree. After all, if you really wanted this so that women would "say" they want the body that "we" want, then we would all be trying to look like male models.

And I dont see many dudes on here going to that "Abercrombie and Fitch" look. LOL
 
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