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Real nice work.....makes me feel my month look like a complete waste. Suprised you havent puton any fat at all with that many cals. Doing any cardio? Whats the main types of food do you eat?
 
sgtslaughter said:
Oh... the only stat I believe you left out was age.

What are you current stats if those are your stats from jan?
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yes, my avi is current from Saturday night...

current stats are 208lbs @ ~ 13% BF...
 
cityhick said:
Real nice work.....makes me feel my month look like a complete waste. Suprised you havent puton any fat at all with that many cals. Doing any cardio? Whats the main types of food do you eat?
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i JUST started the high cals this week (Monday)...

prior to that i was on only about 2400 cals... and was hitting cardio 3x per week for 30 minutes a session...

i feel pretty good about my BF RIGHT NOW, so i decided to up the cals and try to add some muscle mass over the next 6 weeks...

i'll post up what i have been eating this week later this afternoon...
 
I see....haha I was like how the fuck did he drop 6% of BF on 3500 cals! I dont care how strict the diet. Well great job bro. Hopefully I will catch up. But I have my work cut out for me. Go eat some Mc. Ds or something!
 
lowpro said:
Ok guys...here's my starting point. Let's get to work now! :chomp:
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Dude it looks like you could have some good genetics. Just keep your diet lean and try not to loose muscle. Work hard and I am sure you will be able get lean in no time. The race is on.
 
DZLS: Alrighty then... hey, how would you compare recovery now as opposed to your early 20's ... that is if you trained anywhere similar (well... diet would make a difference too)... just curious.

LowPro: You've got some beef under there... gotta trim up the midsection like most of us :)
 
haha no abs yet. Just my hard Beer belly. I was just showing the diffrence in arms. Compare it to the Gallery pic..
 
There's deff. improvment there... don't you think?

I'm going from memory cuz I can't check galleries when i'm using the "expertpcsupport.com" way to access this site... dunno, why. But it's prolly a good thing to keep me semi blocked from using the whole work day on EF.
 
haha its no prob. I was going to do a before and after but the before pic had much better lighting and angle. My arms I think look 2X as good bigger and leaner. Its been by far by biggest improvement. My waist gets smaller but the fat holds on for dear life. Its just nice to see my arms getting bigger when my biceips were my weakpoint. Now working on delts.
 
jeez guys. im gettin real sick of this cutting diet. idk, thinking about switching to a lean bulk. i dont think i can keep it up much longer
 
Well if you are at 13%. It wouldnt nessicarly be bad to start bulking. Depends on what you wanna look like. If I were you I would be bulking too. I dont think that is not nessicarly easier because you will have to spend more time cooking and eating. Instead of thinking about not eating you will just have to keep eating(i do like eating more :) ) go for what YOU want.
 
Nice bro...

One question: Are those "love handles" or hips.... cuz I have something that looks like that and it's fat... i want that shit gone!
 
they're my hips. i dont carry a lot of fat there. also, for some reason, i have great obliques. i always have. i dont even have to work them out.
 
jmt24 said:
jeez guys. im gettin real sick of this cutting diet. idk, thinking about switching to a lean bulk. i dont think i can keep it up much longer
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IMO a clean bulk is more beneficial than a cutting...

you can get similiar results, unless you are looking to get down below 6-7%, then i'd say you'd have to do a cutter and nearly eliminate carbs...
 
I plan on gettin down to about 13% and then starting a Tbol/ Test E cycle. Right now considering doing 2 week clen cycle to give it a boost. I wont be as large as I would like...Prob around 190 when I start first bulk cycle. Cant wait to just see my abs for the first time sense I was about 7 :)
 
I think 5 8' maybe 5 9'.

Welcome Scorpiogirl. I pray to god I can find a girl that will look as great as you do at 35. You blow away any 19-24 year olds I know.
 
Welcome aboard ScorpioGirl! Nice development!


ok, back to sleep I go... I assed out after the gym, woke up to eat and drain fluids from body, now time to get horizontal again :)
 
I did my first shoulders only workout night befoer last. I have some tendonitis/"popping" issues, so I've never worked my whole shoulder area at once before. Went well. No pain, still a little popping on presses in my left shoulder. Starting with that stiffness today. I love it.
 
i just went to a chiropractor/shoulder specialist on wed. i suggest you do the same. ive had shoulder probs for awhile and he gave me some adjustments and my shoulders feel much better today. will be going back to him real soon.
 
I have had great workouts throughout the week. Last week was horrible due to personal issue with my ex(cunt). I tried last week to focus my anger on the weights but it just made me more down then aggresive. But this week I had great pumps and am sore all over. Well time for my morn cardio and breakfast. I hope I dont drink this weekend.... I HOPE.
 
sgtslaughter said:
Welcome aboard ScorpioGirl! Nice development!
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cityhick said:
Welcome Scorpiogirl. I pray to god I can find a girl that will look as great as you do at 35. You blow away any 19-24 year olds I know.
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Thanks for the welcome, City & sgt! :)
 
cityhick said:
I hope I dont drink this weekend.
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NO BOOZE! ... no potato water, pretending it's H20 either! :p

By saying "hope" you set yourself up for failure leaving the option open. Either drink, or don't. Or just have ONE... UNO, a SINGLE beer... if you must. I'm probably going to have ONE glass of red vino this weekend, but that's it.
 
if you do drink, bring some sesapure and glucorell. instead of going out and drinking, take a huge bong hit at 9 and pass out on the couch with a jar of natty pb : )
 
jmt24 said:
if you do drink, bring some sesapure and glucorell. instead of going out and drinking, take a huge bong hit at 9 and pass out on the couch with a jar of natty pb : )
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As soons as I get off probation I will. Just took a drug test this morning. Its been over 2 years sense the last time I really got blown out. Really strange because I used to be a straight up pot head. I am about to get off soon though and am just waiting for the call from my lawyer. As soon as I get the word. I am getting higher then a motha trucka after a hardcore squat workout. I cant wait. Ill prob take one rip and be baked as fuck. :Chef:
 
ive been smoking for awhile now, and 2 hits still puts me on my ass. i have no tolerance for it no matter how much i smoke.
 
Actually it has when unsuspecting victims had drugs put in their shots.

I honestly hope that doesn't happen to you, but i'm just sayinig it could kill a man, lol.

:coffee:
 
got in a figiht last night. Dont remember. Woke up this morn with one contact a nose full of blood and a black eye. fuckin shoulder hurts too. When I find out what happened i will update.I am done drinkin for awhile. Serious this time.
 
Well I guess when i blacked out I punched a hole in the kids wall. His younger (but bigger) brother jacked me in the face and we fought for a little. Oh well. No one knows how I got home. Im tired of living like this on the weekend. Its all training from here on out.
 
hahahahaha, sorry for laughing but damn. i cant drink like that anymore, not since college. i used to black out all the time and not remember doing stupid shit. that's y i stopped drinking, bc i was so tired of being disappointed in myself for something i couldnt even remember doing. there's no reason to punching holes in the wall, esp someone else' apt. are you on any gear right now, i cant remember if you said you were?? on a side note, this weekend is my cheat weekend. i need a big break from my routine that has been 13 weeks and counting. i dont think one weekend will set me back at all. last night's cheat was a stip club steakhouse. now i know what you're thinking, but the steaks there are the best ive ever had. and you get to look at naked bitches all night. if anyone of you guys are in the south florida area, id suggest you check out rachel's. mmmmmmm goood
 
strip club steakhouse.... oh man!! That sounds like a good time, as long as the steak is great and the women are quality... been to some shoty strip joints with ugly chicks before... those one's suck ass. One chick even had a bruise, of a HAND on her ass, lol.... oh and you could see straight up through her if u know what i mean... pretty disgusting.

Na, Hick isn't on any juice... yet.
 
man, some of you guys have ZERO willpower...

how do you expect to better yourself, when you tear yourself down on the weekend...?

no ill will here, just asking a question... ;)
 
DZLS said:
man, some of you guys have ZERO willpower...

how do you expect to better yourself, when you tear yourself down on the weekend...?

no ill will here, just asking a question... ;)
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"some of you guys"... so i'm not sure to whom that is implied to be targeted at.

Some of us choose for more of a "balanced" social life... I still go out on average 5 times a month I'd say... i don't drink more than probably 4 alcoholic drinks total a week I'd say. Some weeks, none... no big deal, I just like a nice frosty dark beer. Nonetheless, sober come the end of the night... just with some added empty calories.

I'm not competing. It's my lifestyle choice bro. I used to do what Hick did this weekend.... that shit is not worth it for me anymore, but we live and learn... and grow up.

Don't forget the age difference here either DZLS.

I'm happy with the progress I'm making as well... I'll be where I want to be by summer, which is my ultimate goal.

Just try not to judge, I know what you're saying... but everyone's got a choice. I said Hick's a "retard" because I chat with him quite alot off the boards so he knows why I said that.

Ok... i forgot what my orginal "moral to my story" was, lol... whatever, i got some good stuff typed!
 
No willpower? I am 19. Goiing to school full time, working, dieting and lifting as much as I do takes a lot of willpower. I work my ass off and felt like getting drunk. If i REALLY didnt want to drink i wouldnt have.
 
if you took offense to what i said, then you must be feeling guilty for doing whatever you did...

no big deal though, but if you remember what you said the night before... "i hope i don't drink tonight..."

meaning to me, that you really didn't WANT to do it, but you just couldn't stop yourself...

just be smart, or you could end up living out your days in a chair, if you know what i mean...
 
thanks for that important lesson teddy ruxpin. hick, don't worry bout, do what you want. im with what sgt said. im not competing and my ultimate goal is about 1-2 yrs off. cheating imo, is essential when cutting and bulking or just eating healthy. i should have more cheat meals than i do, bc i kinda snapped this weekend. thats what happens after over 2 months of eating to strict diet. and by snapped, i mean i had 2 bad meals in the past 2 days, thats all.
 
MILF69 said:
O.K. I'll join in...preping for a figure comp so here are my stats as of 4-1/2 weeks ago...two weeks from posting new stats and pics (8 weeks out).

• Height - 5'7-1/2"
• Weight - 151 lbs.
• BF - 14.7%

DIET:
• 8:30 a.m. - 4 egg whites + 1 whole egg, 1/2 grape fruit, 1 slice whole
grain (wheat free) bread, black coffee

• 10:30 a.m. - 4 oz. chicken breast + 1 cup broccoli

• 1 p.m. - 4 oz. chicken breast, large salad w/balsamic vinegar,
1/4 sweet potato

• 3 p.m. - 4 oz. chicken breast, 1 cup broccoli

• 5-7 p.m. - TRAINING

• 7:30 p.m. - 4 oz. chicken or fish, salad or broccoli

• 8:30 p.m. - BEDTIME!!!

SUPPLIMENTS: Multi-vitamin, glucosamine, fiber, FireLean, whey protien, calcium, vitamin C, Var (almost done with my cycle) and flaxseed oil +
1-1-1/2 gal of water a day.


TRINING SPLIT:
• Monday - Chest + 30 min. HIIT
• Tuesday - Back + 30 min. HIIT
• Wed. - Shoulders + 30 min. HIIT
• Thurs. - Legs + light cardio
• Friday - Bi's & Tri's + 30 min. HIIT
• Saturday - OFF
• Sunday - I hit anything that I didn't get a chance to do during the week +
30 min. HIIT.

***I also have a personal trainer training me two to three times a week on core training to lean me out for the show. So depending on if I have training during the week with my trainer that is when I pick up on Sunday what I didn't get to because of training.
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Updates people!!! Now officially 8 weeks out!
 
Hick dont worry about it bro...dont forget YOU ARE 19. So you got drunk and did something stupid. Everyone makes mistakes like that especially when you are young. Thats how you learn in life. Dont beat yourself up just learn from it which its sounds like you have. Now when you're 30 and still going out and doing that shit, now thats a problem. LIVE YOUR LIFE...ya know what I mean. You will never get these years back. If you want to cheat every now and then, go ahead and do it. Your not competing, and your not getting paid to do this. I highly doubt any of us on here are. So have a life, its healthy. This shouldn't be the only thing going on in your life, THAT would be truly unhealthy. And realistically living your life to that extent, Yeah maybe you have a great body but guess what you sleeping alone because you didn't take the time to get to know anyone. Fitness is just a hobby of mine. I have a great life outside of the gym. Great girl, great job, great group of friends. I go out and cheat on the diet a little and it keeps me sane. Sorry im ranting. Having willpower is saying I want to eat this but i know i cant but you know what i wont have it now i will save this for a later time. Depriving yourself at one time and then allowing yourself a reward later is good.
 
just because someone is young, doesn't mean they have to go out and act a fool... there are far better things to do as a young man than going out getting drunk and getting knocked out cold...

LOL at the Teddy Ruxpin comment... ;)

i would imagine that no more than 5% of the people on this site, are competeing or even plan on it... i spend about 5 hours a week in the gym, as a release from the stresses of my daily life, (55 hours of work, and my 2 year old son)... i guess i let myself go crazy on Sunday as well, and have some pizza... i'm just a crazy old man... :fro:
 
Milf great job. Your waist and back seem to be your biggest improvements. Much leaner and your back has much more defenition and size. Keep up the good work!

Well back to traiing today. I have tris and might throw in a couple other little exercises for shits and giggles. Maybe a good 30 min walk/jog. This black eye that i have is the pussiest black eye ever. It just looks like I have mascara on one eye. Oh well. Might do some ice fishing as well tonight.
 
cityhick said:
Milf great job. Your waist and back seem to be your biggest improvements. Much leaner and your back has much more defenition and size. Keep up the good work!

Well back to traiing today. I have tris and might throw in a couple other little exercises for shits and giggles. Maybe a good 30 min walk/jog. This black eye that i have is the pussiest black eye ever. It just looks like I have mascara on one eye. Oh well. Might do some ice fishing as well tonight.
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Thanks for the good words!!! Can use all the encouragement and feedback I can get!!
 
jmt24 said:
and you get to look at naked bitches all night. if anyone of you guys are in the south florida area, id suggest you check out rachel's. mmmmmmm goood
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What city? I'm going to be in Largo at the end of March.
 
DZLS said:
just because someone is young, doesn't mean they have to go out and act a fool... there are far better things to do as a young man than going out getting drunk and getting knocked out cold...

Couldn't agree with you more on that, just didn't want him to beat himself up over it.
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HiDnGoD said:
I'm going to be in Largo at the end of March.
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Really?

I'm headed to South Beach at the End of March - Winter Music Conference. I don't know if you know anything about it, but it's a great excuse to spend the back half of March in Miami :artist:
 
sgtslaughter said:
Hey Milf! Lookin' good!!

Question: Do you do deep squats or deep leg presses?


deep as in ass to heel and knees to chest, respectively.
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Hey Slaughter!!! I do both actually. I work my legs to failure on leg day!!!
 
You can call me Sarge ;)

do you feel it in your glutes?

That's why I asked how deep you go... to activate more glute.

Or do you do kick backs... ect?

What's your leg routine look like?
 
sgtslaughter said:
You can call me Sarge ;)

do you feel it in your glutes?

That's why I asked how deep you go... to activate more glute.

Or do you do kick backs... ect?

What's your leg routine look like?
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Leg day looks like this;

• Stair climbing w/35lb. plates in each hand
• Deep leg press...also work my calves after each set of presses
• Wall squats
• Deep squats (ass to heel)...and yes I feel them in my glutes!!!
• Quad raises
• Hamstring curls
• Walking lunges with 25lb. plates in ea. hand
• Inner/Outer thigh press

Takes about 1-1/2hrs. and I finish it up with lighter cardio for 30 min.
 
sgtslaughter said:
very nice!

You've got it on lock down!
But what is this:


Quad extensions i've done... how the hell are quad raises performed, lol !?
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You dork!!! Yeah so I called it the wrong name...I'm an idiot...LMAO!!!!
;)
 
ok, ok...


who declared JMT as the "E-Flirting" Policia?!


... I didn't vote :chomp:


lol, jk bro... back to talking about diet cuz we are in a DIET forum :)


I'm drinking a protein shake right now with 1.5 grams of taurine in it ;)
 
but if we're back to talking about dieting, you guys should try teriyaki pork tenderloin. its the bomb. turkey tenderloin is also worth trying. great substitute for the boring grilled chicken that im usually eating day in, day out.
 
But you see the thing is this...


We could have, but once you interjected... it's like having another person in the room. Now, i'm not a shy person. But i'd have to talk it over with the lady ;)
 
lets pretend it never happened. so where you were at. i think you were asking her what she was wearing.
 
Room service is free where I'm going ;)


They'll hate my room after the 2nd day of ordering every 2 hours, lol.

Actually I'll probably be roaming around at first, then I'll veg out a few days later... and THEN the room services people will hate me.

I hope they have decent choices.... otherwise they're steaming brocolli for me, lol.
 
JMT24 now it sounds like you are flirting with Slaughter. :rainbow: HAHA
Back to diet.

Tell me how that 5X5 works out. I have had great progess without it and dont see myself switching it up until I platue. I think I am sending out for my clen tommarow. I am at 197 and am in the best shape of my life. Feel good. Got cardio tommarow morn. Should be fun.
 
the 5x5 can be viewed in the Weighlifting forum... i'm really excited to give it a shot, even though i've been making progress with my own training program...

on that note, here's my meal plan for my 5x5, and may add 100 calories every other week, after i gauge my progress...

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Bad ass dude. Got your diet on lock. Nice spread.. all color coded and everything. I was thinking of making several spreads as well to monitor progress of weight. Max lifts. Body measurments. etc.. good job for gettin it done.
 
i'll be getting that done here within the next couple of days as well... ;)

i'm pretty anal about keeping records of my stuff...
 
I didnt see your alcohol intake? just kidding. Being anal is a good thing when thinking of dieting. not so good with other parts of life.
 
nice layout.; seems that you're gettin a lot of calories from those shakes. id scale them back and add some more chicken or another type of lean meat.
 
i dropped one of them at Meal 2, but don't think i can cut out anymore... just can't eat all the food to meet the caloric surplus i'm looking for...

:(

also made other changes, i'll post up later tonight... i'm sure there will be other changes as the weeks go by and eating gets easier...
 
you should try injectable b12 to help keep your apetite up. its a natural way to help keep you hungry. there are some things i dont like about your diet, like meal #3. a bar and shake? u dont need both. u also have a huge gap between your 830 meal and 1am meal. you can def fit something in there. also, your before bed shake can have more protein in it.
 
JMT24.....whats the diet look like again. I will be running approx the same cycle.. What was the change in BF%. Weight? Measurements if you have them.
 
do you want an exact diet or just totals for the day? body fat went from around 17% to around 12% which is where im around now. i unfortunately don't have any measurements except that i was 218lbs at 17% and im now 225lbs at 12% so that means i was dropping fat while adding lbm which is pretty awsome. im still used to seeing huge gains like off my first bulker. i miss that which is y ill be doing one in 3-5 months. cant wait.
 
jmt24 said:
you should try injectable b12 to help keep your apetite up. its a natural way to help keep you hungry. there are some things i dont like about your diet, like meal #3. a bar and shake? u dont need both. u also have a huge gap between your 830 meal and 1am meal. you can def fit something in there. also, your before bed shake can have more protein in it.
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looking over it again, i've made a few changes already, and am sure there will be other tweaks before i get it nailed down...

remove shake from meal 2...

move banana from meal 3 to meal 4...

move muslce milk from meal 6 to meal 7 at 11:00PM, and add 1/2Tbsp of olive oil to the green beans... this move really helps me get rid of those carbs i didn't want in that meal... trying to keep the carbs at 10 or less during meal 2 and 6...

i gotta make changes to the spreadsheet and repost later tonight...

keep the suggestions coming...

meal 7 is now meal 8...

i also decided to dump the Nitro bar in place of a cup of cheerios w/ 6oz skim, and an english muffin...
 
no problem hick. here is exactly what i ate today

6-wakeup and walk dog/shower
7ish-i scoop whey + water (17g protein)
815-large whole wheat bagel + 2 eggwhites +1 scoop whey
1045-6 oz chicken, 1 cup brocolli, .7 tsp olive oil, 1 tsp natty pb afterwards as a desert.
1245-2 scoops whey + 2 tsp natty pb
1-215-workout
230-pwo-2 scoops whey, 1 tsp bcaa's, 40g dextrose
330-5.5 oz pork tenderloin + medium sweet potato
615-6 oz chicken + 1 cup brocolli+ lil olive oil
830-5.5 oz pork tenderloin + 1 cup spinach
1030-1 scoop egg white protein + 1 scoop whey + 2 tsp natty pb

all this comes to around 2550 cals 349protein56%/118 carbs15%/77g fat28%
there are a couple things that id change about today. id have a shake earlier with 2 scoops instead of 1. preworkout ill switch from the above mentioned to adding flax or substituting 1 scoop of whey for eggwhite protein. i was eating only around 2200 cals per day but i bumped it up. easy way to knock out some cals is to lower the oz of eat portion of chicken or pork. im also going to add a lil bit more carbs into my diet to bump them up to at least 20% of my diet. any other questions, just let me know.
 
thanks bud. I am just looking at examples of diets and am in the progress of setting up everything. Diet/Cycle/Routine. Then i will make a post with a poll and have everyone vote on the one they think is best. Should be interesting.
 
i used to do that all the time, asking questions about cycling and diet advice but no one knows you, like yourself. what worked for one person, won't work for another. from what ive seen you say, you seem to know your stuff pretty well. go with your instincts and change things as you go if you need.
 
DZLS said:
i'll be getting that done here within the next couple of days as well... ;)

i'm pretty anal about keeping records of my stuff...
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I'm the same way when it comes to tracking workouts. H.D. cycles, 5X5's, Breathing Squats, circuit.
Got total weights for an exercise & a workout. Avg effort (rated 1-10) for each exercise & workout. Can easily track even modest improvementsm from one workout to the next.
 
jmt24 said:
i used to do that all the time, asking questions about cycling and diet advice but no one knows you, like yourself. what worked for one person, won't work for another. from what ive seen you say, you seem to know your stuff pretty well. go with your instincts and change things as you go if you need.
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Ya I understand what you are saying. But I like to see averages of everthing. That way I know the rages of everything such as

Average Cutting calories intake-Bulking intake-Amount of dosages from high and low amount of gear/supplements-amount and type of cardio time. Then I use those averages to figure out what I should start off with. Also its nice when I have someone like slaughter that has similar body type. I would like to see before pics of you before you were below 15%. But anyway. thats how I go about learning. I am still new. Not to lifting as much as I am dieting. I mean I used to starve and dehydrate the shit outta myself to make weight for wrestling tournoments but now realize how retarded that really is. Also i used to do NO carb deits and although I had success with it never found it long term. This time i feel that I am changing more of a lifestyle way of eating. Not just a diet.
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