I've got the ingredients, what do I do with them?

[stevesmi]

Would you recommend just taking the var since the gains are mainly in strength? I am pretty sure I already know the answer to this question and it is a no bc oral only is terrible for the body and can mess it up. Var is less liver toxic and when taken on shorter cycle it can reduce sides, but I do understand this concept of orals being bad unless run with test.

you can run an oral without test. not sure who told you that its bad. its amazing how much bad info is out there for people with low fitness IQ..

var is absolutely NOT less liver toxic and you will get pumps on it. however it is much more gentle on the lipids in my experience.. unlike winny which is harsh as hell.