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i've been on roids for 3 years and want to come off

As Saiyan7 said, you need HCG and Clomid. Use those to make your testosterone levels normal, and you can use nolva or Arimidex just for the sake of it. For estrogen, just go slowly, there is no need to run for it.
All of these PCT things are pretty expensive so, if you dont have that amount of money, you sir, are fucked, BUT if you have money, go for it. It will be alright man, just go easy at it.
Ask someone who used HCG and Arimidex, Clomid and ask them for the dosage and all that stuff. Good luck :)
 
As Saiyan7 said, you need HCG and Clomid. Use those to make your testosterone levels normal, and you can use nolva or Arimidex just for the sake of it. For estrogen, just go slowly, there is no need to run for it.
All of these PCT things are pretty expensive so, if you dont have that amount of money, you sir, are fucked, BUT if you have money, go for it. It will be alright man, just go easy at it.
Ask someone who used HCG and Arimidex, Clomid and ask them for the dosage and all that stuff. Good luck :)

good thing i am not a poor man then
 
You might be. Get some HCG. Clomid. Nolva. Also some DAA would be good as well.
Blast 1000iu HCG for 10-11 days and then start Clomid and nolva.
Clomid /100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20.
Take your DAA and AI throughout. Wait for a month or two and draw bloods to see what needs to be done.

I'm looking at some of these HCG products at my usual shop

they are 5000 iu per ampule? organon pregnyl

Did you mean 10,000 iu per day instead of 1000 iu?

Please confirm
 
Since u been on for so long I would recommend an aggressive 6 weeks PCT as opposed to the traditional 4 weeks.


100/100/100/50/50/50 clomid

40/40/40/20/20/20 nolva

If u didn't do hcg on cycle do a blast.

If ur gonna use triptrorelin u should use it once at 100mcg dose. At most twice, any more and ull shut urself down.

I would do the hcg blast. Triptrorelin 100mcg after blast. Then start clomid/nolva as above.

Do not, I repeat do not take ur AI throughout PCT. estrogen is Wut feeds back and stimulates the Hypothalamus/pituitary axis.

As far as triptrorelin, the poster above just quoted Wikipedia without reading further into the mechanism of the drug. It is a GnRH agonist meaning it stimulates GnRH which down the line stimulates the release of LH/FSH if used in a "pulsatile" manner. Key word is pulsatile ie. Used once or twice. When used in a continuous fashion, its basically a form of chemical castration which will decrease release of LH/FSH. So, the poster wasn't far off but only had half of the story.

Basically use triptorelin once otherwise it will shut u down.

Hope that helps and u recover. I would check blood levels 6 weeks after coming off PCT. At that point Ull have an idea if ur own system has jump started. Ur own levels will still be low tho but how low will show whether u r bouncing back or not, it takes time.

Good luck


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Why were you so long and why do you want to get off now after so long?

until recently i didnt really believe that those permanent shut down stories were real

now i'm in panic mode

existential crisis because i got on gear first time after my son was born and i honestly felt like now i have what i want, i can risk it

but after a year and a half my son died and his mother also left so now i feel like the whole thing is fucked, especially since they said roiders always have daughters. i want a son, not daughter tbph :-(. after the burrial a bit over a year ago i wanted to come off and quit bb entirely. but my friend advised against it, he said combination of tragedy and hard test crash would be a detrimental combination. now i'm sort of regretting cruising for another year and further damaging the system. SMH

also; desperate attempt to salvage what's left of my hair
 
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Since u been on for so long I would recommend an aggressive 6 weeks PCT as opposed to the traditional 4 weeks.


100/100/100/50/50/50 clomid

40/40/40/20/20/20 nolva

If u didn't do hcg on cycle do a blast.

If ur gonna use triptrorelin u should use it once at 100mcg dose. At most twice, any more and ull shut urself down.

I would do the hcg blast. Triptrorelin 100mcg after blast. Then start clomid/nolva as above.

Do not, I repeat do not take ur AI throughout PCT. estrogen is Wut feeds back and stimulates the Hypothalamus/pituitary axis.

As far as triptrorelin, the poster above just quoted Wikipedia without reading further into the mechanism of the drug. It is a GnRH agonist meaning it stimulates GnRH which down the line stimulates the release of LH/FSH if used in a "pulsatile" manner. Key word is pulsatile ie. Used once or twice. When used in a continuous fashion, its basically a form of chemical castration which will decrease release of LH/FSH. So, the poster wasn't far off but only had half of the story.

Basically use triptorelin once otherwise it will shut u down.

Hope that helps and u recover. I would check blood levels 6 weeks after coming off PCT. At that point Ull have an idea if ur own system has jump started. Ur own levels will still be low tho but how low will show whether u r bouncing back or not, it takes time.

Good luck


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so can you verify if this is all in correct order?


-last shot of test e 250
-wait 2 weeks
-1000iu hcg per day (how many days?)
-after completing hcg blast, clomid and nolva simultaneuously:
100/100/100/50/50/50 clomid
40/40/40/20/20/20 nolva
 
yesterday i confirmed and paid for my order, will this be enough product or do i need to order more?

3 x packs - 30 tablets (50mg/tab)Clomiphene (Clomid) (Clomiphene citrate)

2 x HCG (HUCOG-10000 HP) (Human chorionic gonadotropin)

i have a ton of nolva at home so didnt order any more, for some reason i once ordered 10 packs
do they expire? i've had then for 1-2 years at home



or should i go all the way and get a doctor to prescribe all these products pharmaceutically? i think this would be sort of hard and lengthy process tho, therefore i ordered from my trusted manufacturer/distributor
 
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