It doesn't take a genius to pass a steroids test

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OK boys, the reason why BONDS and SOSA won't takke a drug teat is because of the pplayers union. If they take test then the reporters will expect everyone to and the players all look out for each other. Also you guys need to read the Sports Illistrated about baseball and AAS.

Also about the Olypic Commity testing, I know a girl that is the best defenceman in womens hockey in the world, no arguing the absolute best. How many women do you know that arn't BB and Squat 225+. She has to fill out a form every 2 or 3 months that tells the testing people where she will be 24/7/365. They show up where you are, tell you that you are going to be tested, stay with you for 1 hour while you drink water, and then you take the test. She is not on AAS by any means, she does not need to be she has so uch talent. She did tell me that people get testes all the time. She even had to let the people knnwo where she was going to be when she was in Europe on Vacatrion....

As for people giving a shit about wheather PRO players are onAAS, F-that they care more about the fact that BBplayers are such whinning littel bitches and need more money than trhe already get when lots of people can even find a normall job. Who the f-ck needs to pay $ 25-75 a ticket, $20 to park, $30 for a short, $6-8 a beer, $8-10 for a mixed drink........F__king BS man!!

SORRY ABOUT THE LONG POST BUT THIS SUBJECT MAKES ME MAD

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[bigAragorn]

Terrific article that you posted maxx.....

i like the candid comments by mr Yesalis (sp?) and the open minded journalism.



b.A.

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

Growth is non detectable. This is what a lot of them are on.

 

[fhg43]

Good post...but i doubt some things he says. If it's true that it's so easy to pass the tests, then don't you think bonds and sosa would have taken the tests by now to prove that they "didn't use steroids," or at least get some people to believe them and get behind them?

If they thought they could pass the test, they would have done it when this whole controversy started a few months ago. They're waiting till the shit is out of their system, and I'm sure they are on some kind of masking drug.

Why take a test if you DON'T need to!?!??

FHG

 

[nautica]

Growth is not non detectable - the test just has not been approved. Give it a year or so.

nautica

 

[Bulldog_10]

Why take a test if you DON'T need to!?!??

FHG

because the whole damn country is accusing them of being on juice. And if they're not, they have NOTHING to lose. The whole "why take a test if you don't need to" line is just an excuse and means your guilty.

It's like someone challenging someone else to a fight, and the other person saying "you're not even worth it." What does that mean? It means that person would get their ass beat!

 

[Bulldog_10]

Why take a test if you DON'T need to!?!??

FHG

because the whole damn country is accusing them of being on juice. And if they're not, they have NOTHING to lose. The whole "why take a test if you don't need to" line is just an excuse and means your guilty.

It's like someone challenging someone else to a fight, and the other person saying "you're not even worth it." What does that mean? It means that person would get their ass beat!

 

[fhg43]

because the whole damn country is accusing them of being on juice. And if they're not, they have NOTHING to lose. The whole "why take a test if you don't need to" line is just an excuse and means your guilty.

It's like someone challenging someone else to a fight, and the other person saying "you're not even worth it." What does that mean? It means that person would get their ass beat!

When I go to an event where they have testing I don't go up and ask if they would test me (I'm clean).

By saying that they are clean and they'll take the test Bonds and Sosa are appeasing their critics. Most of the sportswriters don't know dick about AAS. Bonds and Sosa probably have some good docs who make sure they wouldn't test positive even if they tested for AAS. Point being if they did take the test when no one else did they would be ostracized by their peers. And there is no RULE that requires them to take a test.

Look at it like this: Tomorrow at work your coworker says "Bulldog you're huge-you gotta be on roids. I'm gonna test you. Bring in a cup of pee." This guys isn't your boss and the test has no impact on your job. This guy just wants to know if you are juicin. Do you piss for him. Hell no!! You say "Whatever-I'll take any test the boss wants me to. I'm just eating really well and training hard."

That's the situation baseball players are in. MLB doesn't test for roids and they aren't even banned in MLB. Furthermore their union wouldn't let them test anyway! So why should they just randomly pee in a cup for some reporters when it would only cause trouble regardless of if they found D-Bol or MuscleTech in the test. It is a no-win situation for baseball if just one player tests to prove they're clean. It makes every other player look bad even if the test is clean.

Part of any sport is MANIPULATING THE RULES TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. If you want to say "yeah, I'm clean and yeah I'll take any test they want me to take" and then be able to hide behind "oh the union won't let us" - that's a smart athlete.

It's a moot point. I don't care if they are juicin. Too many Americans are so naive in this area. There is no question that 80% of professional or Olympic caliber athletes are doping or using substances that aren't banned but aren't condoned either. Everybody just thinks "Oh those NFL linemen get big naturally" or "Why would a hockey player use steroids?" Why? Because there's hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars on the line. Would you become a human pin cushion and F' your liver for $2.4mil a year for 3 years. I would.


aaahhhh

you're not even worth arguing with........

FHG

 

[mvmaxx]

As far as "masking agents and clearing all metabolites within 2-5 days". I don't think so.

Nautica - Actually that part sparked my interest. Is this guy just talking bs or are there really "masking agents" for steroids? I figured if anyone would know it'd be you.
I just figured they'd use suspension or prop and other gear that gets out of the system really quick.

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

Growth is not non detectable - the test just has not been approved. Give it a year or so.

nautica

Watched a special on this topic on espn a few days ago and a world renowned phd was covering all of these issues. He said that currently there is no test that can detect gh. He said that when synthetic gh is injected into the body you cannot detect this but can only detect the amount of gh the body naturally produces.