Is this wrong to do??? DNP use

[TxLonghorn]

Fonz, you and I see totally eye-eye on the use of dnp for the obese.

Why spend 3 years getting down to 25% bodyfat, starving yourself with a fad diet, etc. when you can get there much much quicker. And yes, time is THE enemy. I really don't care how they got there, dnp should be available.

So what if they don't eat right, exercise right, etc. Do you think they should be 'punished' because of that? Obviously you do. I don't.

I think if dnp were as widely used as weight watchers and all that other crap (and Fonz is totally correct) the obesity problem in the US could be halved.

I think it's borderline criminal for others to say, 'Yeah, it's tough to lose weight, so ...tough.' Why not say, here have one/day. Because if they don't get there weight under control, they are certainly going to take more than one/day of glucophage, lipidrol, and a host of other diabetes type medicine.

 

[TxLonghorn]

Sorry for the above post...what I meant to say was...all of you idiots and stoopid-hedds eating bugspray are all gonna die. Sure, maybe not now, maybe not in 20 years, maybe not in 50 years, but you will all die one day, and it will be because of that damned bugspray.

And you ask for proof? For all the proof you need, re-read what I just said, that's all the proof in the world.

Hmm, I guess I was just possessed by the spirit of another member of these boards. Obviously a very intelligent, respectful individual who encourages dialogue between people.

 

[harddtime]

thanks for hte input guys, Fonz i agree with you 100% on this. I really think that once they get down to a certain level they'll do all they can to stay there after they get all the compliments from everyone and finally feel good about themselves.


Tx, whats the deal with the two diff posts? someone using your account?

 

[elijah]

Having been a big tub o lard myself

Hey DO NOT just give her the dnp!!!! Heres why (I agree very much with andy)

I used to tip the scales at around 290, size 45 waist, cause I went at lunch and had 3 chili cheese burritos, a cup of beans, and a xl coke. Dinner was the same, huge breakfast, and snacked on the wrong food all day long. At the time I could bench press a womping 135 3 times, and climbing a set of stairs killed me. Prolly had a lean body mass of 140 lbs. If I had taken dnp to get skinny you know what, I'd have maybe lost fat, stopped dnp, eaten wrong still and got fat again, and repeat for ever.

Thankfully I lost the fat (well loosing it hehehe) by dieting correctly (I honestly thank God for the help couldn't have done it alone) But now I"m 184, bf around 12 or 13 %. Now and only now am I looking at dnp. Not because I wanna eat like crap, I love eating healthy and taking control of my life. I just wanna shed the last bit fast for school/beach season

Teach this girl!! Show her around keto diets, ckd (she'll prolly love that diet Thanks Mr. X!) isocaloric, enlighten her as to why people get fat (excess calories) and then tell her that if she'll stick with a good diet (of her own design ie cals, and such) you'll hook her up with a very powerful aid, so she isn't stuck being fat. Life skinny feels alot better!

 

[TxLonghorn]

Tx, whats the deal with the two diff posts? someone using your account?

lol, no it is a re-enactment of a discussion I had with one of the members here on Elite. And when I asked him for any kind of proof to back up his assinine assertions, his only proof was 'I said so', and he then proceeded to call me an idiot. Anytime after that anybody disagreed with him, whether they had proof or not of what they thought, he hurled insults and personal attacks at them. Not a very effective way to argue, but it got me to stop responding to him. I try to stay away from crazy, if you know what I mean.

There were several other fun things about that conversation that were equally nuts. But then I quickly realized he did not want a discussion, he wanted to preach. That, and he is clearly insane.

 

[harddtime]

Tx, i got you know. It confused a bit but now i know what your talking about

 

[Andy13]

Hey Tx.... So then would you say it's OK for a guy who has never touched a barbell in his life to use AAS because he's sick and tired of being small?

How about a guy who is sick and tired of being small and has SHITTY workout and eating habits... WOuldn't you feel inclined to tell this guy he needs to learn how to workout and eat BEFORE he uses AAS?

Incidentally, I'm not sure if those posts were directed toward me or not but in either case, I think you are GREAT guy, Tx


Andy

 

[TxLonghorn]

Incidentally, I'm not sure if those posts were directed toward me or not but in either case, I think you are GREAT guy, Tx


Andy

No, actually they were not directed at you, lol. I hope that wasn't sarcasm at the end, but if it was, it was pretty funny either way. As for how I view you personally, I think you bring some much needed discussion to certain areas. That can never be a bad thing.

As for the guy never touching a weight and doing aas? My beliefs can be summed up in two words: Giddy up.

I mean hell, why not. The only reason people on here say don't do it until you get all these things spot on is because aas really are a magic bullet. Their physiques would not be as special anymore. I beat myself up, black and blue for 10 years before I used any gear. For what? If I had known then what I know now....well, I would've done'em early and done'em often.

Let's face it, is being 300 pounds of blubber that healthy? Are these fucking whales gonna stop their eating habits? Is Richard Simmons telling the truth? No, to all of these questions.

How much $ are these jackasses paying annually for weightloss? A small fortune apiece. Why not spend $50 fucking dollars on dnp, and actually lose some fat. Were the doctors who were prescribing phen/fen making sure these people worked out or ate well? No. So why can't they give these people something that works?

I would rather see fatasses washing down a dnp capsule with an ice cold coca-cola than chasing their ice cold coca-cola with a milk shake.

And I would've rather gained 90 pounds my first year of lifting than 20. Maybe I am just stoopid, but one of the reasons people do gear in the first place is because time is the enemy. And gear can get you where you want to go faster. Period. I don't lift for my health, I am too young to be that responsible. I lift to look good naked. I lift so I can see others who look good naked. I want to see as many good looking chicks naked as possible. Gear helps me achieve that goal. I have been falling short of that goal until I found gear. I wish I found gear 10 years ago, instead of only reading about it, believing the hype, and being afraid in general to actually do it.

To sum up, for anybody who read this far...if you want to be somewhere, why wait? If you want to get bigger, why not use gear? If you want to lose fat, tell my why dnp should not be used, and why instead you should diet for a year without carbs to get the effect you can get in one month on dnp.

The drugs, the knowledge, the ability to get where you want to go is here. For those who do not want to take advantage of them, fine. I will look that much better to your prospective girlfriends and wives than you do. And I will have right of first refusal. Because they will naturally go for me before your fat, flabby ass.

tx

 

[Andy13]

I'm sorry for the attitude when it comes to fat folks..

It's a sore subject for me. I have two overweight parents. My Dad is very overweight and probably has every single diet book that has ever been written.

My mom has tried weight watcher's. She did well for a while but then quit..

I consider WW's to be a great program, for those who follow it

My dad is the most stubborn man I have ever met in my life. He has every excuse for why he has always been overweight. I believed it when I was a kid but now that I know a little more about energetics and obesity, I realized that he is just truely lazy..

I have personally witnessed people losing weight who have no clue how to diet or how to workout.. The only thing they did have was serious desire. something that lacks in most obese people I deal with in the club I work at.

Almost every day I sit there and listen to fat people's excuses for why they are fat.. Their excuses are not unique... I have yet to meet the person who follows a sensible diet and exercise program who cannot get lean.

Unfortunetly for obese folks, they often get discouraged because the fat is coming off @ 2lbs per week instead of 10lbs/week or whatever...

So yeah, I'm a little bitter when I hear about people too lazy to workout and no self disapline to workout look for the easy way out. I still stand with my original opinion-- Unless fat folks learn how to change their lifestyle, the drug just treats the symptoms and not the problem.

Andy

 

[panerai]

Andy, Fonz and everyone else who is so hyper about making DNP a trend, please, swear on your mother's life, that you are actually using DNP in doses you are recomending on this board....
George, should you, considering the latest trend, build DNP board now...
Hey, enough is enough.....