is this guy getting carried away?

[DepressiveJuice]

i was talking to my brother about his cycles. the guy isnt huge, said he weights about 195-200lbs. he looks kind of chubby (15%bf or so) but does have a good decent muscle mass. he has only done two 8 week cycles of eq/test and test/fina/winny/halo/t3/clen. he said he hasnt done anything in 6 months 9as far as gear i mean). now he is asking me which cycle looks better for him. i told him his cycle plans are too much for a thrid cycle but laughed and said that he wants to get huge and this is the advice someone gave him (he clamied this someone is 240lbs at 13%bf). here is his cycle- 24weeks on. he is going to do test at 600-800mg/wk throughout. eq at 400mg/wk for 12 weeks. fina for the first and last six weeks at 75mg/day. halo for the first and last 4 weeks at 30mg/day. winny at 50mg/day for the last 6 weeks. two weeks on/off of clen at 200mcg/day for the last 12 weeks. t3 at 12.5mcg for the first six weeks and 25mcg-75mcg-25mcg for the last six weeks. ala at 3g for the first 8 weeks. 15g creating for the first 8 weeks. 1mg/day ldex throughout. proviron at 50mg for the last four weeks. 2500hcg (im not sure how he said he is going to cycle this but something like 2 short cycles for 8 days in the middle and at the end). basically its 8 week bulk followed by 12weeks of cutting and tapering off for 4 weeks before he begins clomid and hcg therapy. so isnt this a little too crazy for a third cycle? this my idiotic brother and i dont want him to hurt himself. he sounds like he is pretty set on doing all this crap- do you guys think he'll be ok? thats alot of waste of money IMO.

 

[SuKY_GeNeTiCs]

bump for your brother

 

[HorseBalls]

Im no expert but that seems like a ridiculus cycle. Not to mention a third cycle.

 

[Greek Freak]

That cycle is def. going overboard. Does he realize how much money he is going to be spending on all of this(and he isnt going to get better gains than he would doing two shorter conservative cycles and eating/training properly). He is gonna be a bloated mess anyway mixing creatine and test, thats just stupid. As for the rest of the stuff he is gonna have some serious health problems from doing those ammounts for such a long period of time considering his previous use. That cycle is comparable to what a national level ammatuer might do. I could pick it all apart but that would probably be a waste, just tell him to go back to the drawing boards and this time think about what his goals are, and his future. Everyone is in a rush to be the next mr olmypia but right now its winter, he could do a bulking cycle and put on some mass(he prob wants to drop bodyfat a little lower first) and then cycle again at the begining of summer and probably look very good. I feel like I am ranting so I will stop now. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

 

[gainerxxl]

His cycle is just plain stupid and dangerous. Halo/winny/test/fina/EQ/Clen at 200mcg!!/T3 is going to fuck him up reaaly bad.
500mg of test along with 400mg of EQ for 12 weeks is a perfect third cycle, no need for orals.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Guys who are that kamakazie aren't worth trying to reason with. He isn't a bodybuilder and he makes it worse for everyone who takes it seriously. You might as well try to discuss responsible drinking to the guy who lives on the street with a bottle of Muskatell and a crack pipe. This isn't enhancement. It's addiction.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I have to echo Nelson's comments -- good luck trying to reason with him. You know it's a bad idea, he knows it's a bad idea -- he just likes the idea of doing all that shit. He'd be better off on a straight test/ldex cycle if his goal is to get hyooge...

 

[DepressiveJuice]

so you guys dont think he'll back away from all that crap? he does seem pretty set on doing it. i asked him to do test at 600mg and eq at 400mg for 12 weeks and finish off with winny and fina for 6 weeks if he wants to run a long cycle but he still persist. asshole probably wont even get check ups during the cycle either

 

[THeMaCHinE]

As his brother, you should obviously try to convince him it's a bad idea -- but ultimately, it's his decision...

 

[Greek Freak]

Yea, its hard to reason with people like that. Tell him to come on here and post that cycle and look at the responses people give to him. Going with a moderate test/eq or test/deca cycle for 12 weeks(kicked off with an oral) is plenty long enough and he will probably gain about the same he would doing this rediclous "I dont care about my body" type of cycle.

 

[shifti]

If my brother tried to tell me this, I WOULD NOT let him do that. I would yell and lecture him for 20 mins and then kick his ass.