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Is IP Quitting For Good?!?!?!?!

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I got this return email from him today. This sucks if it is true. Does anyone know anything? I mean, does he get frustrated & say things like this all the time, or is he serious?! Thanks guys.



At Sun, 27 Jan 2002 02:47:58 -0800 (PST), iph *** wrote:

>
>i am sorry i am scaling down and will not offer any ip
>stuff due to local laws once the current supplies run
>out -- i gradually close down --
>
>
>--- [email protected] wrote:
>> ,
>> and wanted to know if you could send me the info I
>> would need, to help me
>> decide(thats if you are interested
>> of course). As you
>> may know, I am a Mod on Triedia. Let me know
>> please. Thanks
>>
>>
>_____________________________________________________________
>> >
 
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Funny I posted this topic over at Triedia and it got deleted.

Seems that he doesn't have much of a future left. He can't hardly get anything past customs. He is offering less and less products. No more Viagra, GH, Kar. Sust., etc..
 
iceman11111 said:
Well, yes that kinda sucks

From what I heard some of his products were great (winny, anavar, dbol)

but I think he should have studied up on the mailing system a little more (that seemed to be his biggest problem)


What do you mean by that bro? That he doesn't pack stuff well enough to pass Customs, ot that his addy is tagged perhaps?
 
I have never ordered from him directly, but I here his packaging is horrible and I would think by now that customs would have tagged his addy...But it still sucks because I think the man had produced some good stuff....
 
Strong_Man20 said:
bump

I hope this is not true!!
plz no!!!!!!

I hope he can still send to the UK though..that should not be a problem for him..

Dude - you live in the UK - land of cheap gear.. why buy from IP anyway?
 
SirWanksalot said:
Whats weird is MODs allowing IP's email address (roiddogs post) to be plastered for all to see.

Sirwanksalot

Thanks for the heads up.I posted about this a LONG time ago,when folks were defending their right to announce "IP THIS,IP THAT"all over every thread.I knew that eventually,if enough people kept announcing his presence and products and where he was from,that the wrong ears would sit up and take notice.I got the "Well he lives on the other side of theworld,so what can the feds do to him?"Then came all the seizures of packages.Still more folks"IP THIS,CHINAMAN,THAT".Now,our government strengthens their resolve-pressure gets put on the leaders of that country to clamp down on their laws/policies.And here we are...What did I tell you guys?And it's not only you guys,he did this to himself as well by drawing so much attention to himself openly advertising.
 
ulter said:
I have been around watching prices for over 18 years. I can tell you without hesitation he has had no impact whatsoever. The sources who sell real gear couldn't care less what the bathtub boys get for theirs.

ooh, yes my friend, I can assure you some sources really really cared about IP making winstrol and anavar affordable to all of us......:D
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:


Thanks for the heads up.I posted about this a LONG time ago,when folks were defending their right to announce "IP THIS,IP THAT"all over every thread.I knew that eventually,if enough people kept announcing his presence and products and where he was from,that the wrong ears would sit up and take notice.I got the "Well he lives on the other side of theworld,so what can the feds do to him?"Then came all the seizures of packages.Still more folks"IP THIS,CHINAMAN,THAT".Now,our government strengthens their resolve-pressure gets put on the leaders of that country to clamp down on their laws/policies.And here we are...What did I tell you guys?And it's not only you guys,he did this to himself as well by drawing so much attention to himself openly advertising.

A fucking men! I can't believe the way is name, location and shipping procedures are openly discussed........especially by vets! This was inevitable. I was tempted to order some orals from him but didn't because I figured he was flagged almost immediately.
 
Sorry about posting his Email addy fellas. I was more concerned for getting an answer to my question, and therefore forgot about it. Stupid mistake on my part.
 
Christ almighty noone's talking about sources. Hmm let's see if this was a poll on how good Upjohn, TT, Brovel, Tornel and on and on it wouldn't be be given the third degree. How many times has someone been flamed for trying to decide Tornel or Brovel? FR you have a good point in that the govt is watching, however the secret is out and there's no turning back. They know where he is, what he ships blah blah. Even if every person on this board declared they were expecting a package from a certain somewhere it wouldn't change a damn thing. The govt is aware of it and that's that. BTW I've used his dbols and blew up like a fuckin balloon.

This is a flame that I received when attempting to keep people from screaming his nameand locality everywhere.

Huck - as usual you couldn't be more right with what you posted.

I guess I'll have to pay through the ass now (as I bend over and spread my ass cheeks)
 
barnidge said:
Will he still accept order or is this considered too risky at this time?

thats the question and honestly at this point I think its a risk. He could easily disapear and nobody would be able to catch him. It had to happen one day. He was legally conducting his business in China. All the products on his list were legal there. Thats why we never saw stuff like DNP cause it isnt legal. But then suddendly no more viagra, no more GBL, no more HGH, no more RU-486 (was sold for about 2 weeks only). So if he cant produce anabolics anymore there's no reason for him to remain in business since we can get stuff like arimidex, clomids and novaldex for almost the same price and brand name.
 
I just got his newest list five minutes ago. It says nothing about closing up. Maybe he is getting rid of the naysayers from his lineup. I would not blame him. Look at iceman, quoting himself and saying he laughs everytime he reads it. What a baffoon.
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
Oh my god!! I am deeply hurt to hear this terrible news :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

M18
And now we understand why you let people post his name, it suits you.
 
Oh well I guess it's inevitable though it eventually was going to happen...HELL can you imagine How many times his addy has been Flagged...I hate to see it happen, as I think that his gear was legit for the most part.........:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :confused:
 
OK we need to get this worked out or, lock this thread until we know something for sure.....I'm going to e-mail my guy to see if he knows anything...........:( :mad: :( :mad:
 
Someone needs to email the gear nazi and ask him how many emails this spurred.

I would be suprised if he gets out all together after so long in the biz. Maybe he will go to work for Ttokkyo! LMFAO

Why doesn't he just mail to a remailer.....box in a box kinda deal. Once the pack gets from his place to another, take out the box inside and reship the damn thing from another location. Change remailer locations every few months. Customs would be shit out 'o luck. Maybe would raise the cost a bit, but hell he has a lot of margin to play with there.
 
FrankRizzo said:
Someone needs to email the gear nazi and ask him how many emails this spurred.

I would be suprised if he gets out all together after so long in the biz. Maybe he will go to work for Ttokkyo! LMFAO

Why doesn't he just mail to a remailer.....box in a box kinda deal. Once the pack gets from his place to another, take out the box inside and reship the damn thing from another location. Change remailer locations every few months. Customs would be shit out 'o luck. Maybe would raise the cost a bit, but hell he has a lot of margin to play with there.


nahhhh it's over (quoting IP): "No soup for you anymore"........
 
Pennywise said:
And now we understand why you let people post his name, it suits you.

Don't you dare try to start shit with me NEWBIE!! It does not suit me at all..I don't like the guy so I don't give 2 shits if he's out of buiss or not so shut your mouth

M18
 
MUSTANG_18 said:
Oh my god!! I am deeply hurt to hear this terrible news :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It does not suit me at all..I don't like the guy so I don't give 2 shits if he's out of buiss or not so shut your mouth

M18
Sounds like you give more than two shits if he is out of business, more so than if he is not out of business. You should not say you are unbiased and then turn around an be biased. It looks hypocritical. I am not TRYING to argue with you but you make it hard not too, when you contradict yourself.
 
look some guys like him some guys hate him theres no point in arguing cause its not gonna change anyones opinion. i myself like his products so can we get a definative anser on this???? im gonna be pissed if he is:mad:
 
Pennywise said:
Sounds like you give more than two shits if he is out of business, more so than if he is not out of business. You should not say you are unbiased and then turn around an be biased. It looks hypocritical. I am not TRYING to argue with you but you make it hard not too, when you contradict yourself.

I am not contradicting myself.....I don't like the guy but I do not care if he's out of buiss ir not. It's not his buiss I have a prob with, it's the man behind it I don't like.

M18
 
MUSTANG_18 said:


I am not contradicting myself.....I don't like the guy but I do not care if he's out of buiss ir not. It's not his buiss I have a prob with, it's the man behind it I don't like.

M18

Pretty disappointing attitude for a Mod. I thought you guys were supposed to be fair and unbiased, not bringing your personal views on the man to the forum.
 
ronan said:


Pretty disappointing attitude for a Mod. I thought you guys were supposed to be fair and unbiased, not bringing your personal views on the man to the forum.

Everyone has personal views. Mods are people just like you and I. I personally hope that an educated and experienced mod would inform me if he/she didnt agree with a source and/or their gear.
 
I don't understand. If you don't like his stuff, you don't buy his stuff....so why would you be happy if he was gone? You could care less, you get your stuff from someone else, but you aren't? Peace.
 
ronan said:


Pretty disappointing attitude for a Mod. I thought you guys were supposed to be fair and unbiased, not bringing your personal views on the man to the forum.
Just goes to show you no matter how cool you are someone will still talk shit about you.
 
Pennywise said:
Sounds like you give more than two shits if he is out of business, more so than if he is not out of business. You should not say you are unbiased and then turn around an be biased. It looks hypocritical. I am not TRYING to argue with you but you make it hard not too, when you contradict yourself.
Why don't you just shut your fucking mouth already.
 
that just goes to show that when you talk to much about a source, ip this, that and other, eventually LE will catch up. everyone thinks that it is ok to post shit about international sources, well you know what, they might not get busted but it sure will fuck up the shipping routine (seizures, set ups, etc) so a lesson to everyone, if you like your source and the way he handles shit, SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THEM. And keep everyone safe. Roidog 420 should know better, but then again he deleted a post of mine on triedia when i tried to point this out to people, maybe now he will learn.

Siedman out!!!!!!!
 
the problem was, many boards allowed him to post on (anabolex, Triedia, UG) so if you cant be low-profile expect some problems. Its sad cause many people here couldn't just afford brand name, but again he's the one that created this whole situation....
 
I just got a new list from him 5 minutes ago. He didn't say anything about going out of business. Depending on where you live, some things aren't available to you anymore, and some things are just not available period. If you don't like his product, don't buy it. I haven't used anything of his that didn't work like it was suppose to. As far as calling him "bathtub boy" goes, God only knows what you are injecting into your body when you use Mexican gear. Unless your doctor has written you a prescription and you purchased your stuff at your local druggist, any of the gear you buy comes from producers that wouldn't be approved by the U.S. FDA.
 
the cycle of life...
It's time for new players and labs.
new things will come to the market soon... That's what always happens
 
ronan said:


Pretty disappointing attitude for a Mod. I thought you guys were supposed to be fair and unbiased, not bringing your personal views on the man to the forum.

Just cause I am a Mod I can't have my own opinion ?..You gotta be joking!!!!!

M18
 
I have somewhat of a civil email relationship with him. Only thing that has come my way is that due to the high seizure rate of injectables, he probably will discontinue sending them in the future.
I have not read this, but have been told that he threw a bit of a tantrum on another board and said he was through producing all items, and when they are gone, so is he.
I have my own theory to all of this........
We will see.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:


Thanks for the heads up.I posted about this a LONG time ago,when folks were defending their right to announce "IP THIS,IP THAT"all over every thread.I knew that eventually,if enough people kept announcing his presence and products and where he was from,that the wrong ears would sit up and take notice.I got the "Well he lives on the other side of theworld,so what can the feds do to him?"Then came all the seizures of packages.Still more folks"IP THIS,CHINAMAN,THAT".Now,our government strengthens their resolve-pressure gets put on the leaders of that country to clamp down on their laws/policies.And here we are...What did I tell you guys?And it's not only you guys,he did this to himself as well by drawing so much attention to himself openly advertising.


I hear ya bro. I hope this a scare tactic so he can lay low for a while and let someone else get the attention. If it's not, it'll be a great loss!

asone............
 
I've had numerous email discussions with the man and he's reitterated a few times that he will slowly make his way out of supplying injects. The us has to go domestic to get em right now and Canada can order 10ml vials max no more bigger bottles. When his inject supplies die out its likely he'll stop with them for good. North america must be his biggest buyer in injects and if he cant get them across with any cosistency then its just not feasable to keep them just for europeans who can get the real deal human grade products for close to the same price.

He didn't say anything about orals being discontinued, but the prices on bulk are no longer.

WBB
 
mikeb23 said:
I don't understand. If you don't like his stuff, you don't buy his stuff....so why would you be happy if he was gone? You could care less, you get your stuff from someone else, but you aren't? Peace.

yeah, why are so many people here happy that he is gone.....why?...but why?can anyone help me , please?i just can't understand why......:rolleyes:
 
GaryWary said:
Maybe his family have demanded they have access to the bath... What with him always in there mixing shit....

BAHAHAHAA!!!

That's classic

Just like all sources...some disappear and new ones begin.
 
I'll start producing my own brand featuring: Parabolan, Masteron, Il-15, Coke, Crack, weed, DNP.........
 
just got his list

he is carryin everything he was except viagra and ambian....because they are enforcing patent laws on these 2 products so he said fuck it and dumped both viagra and ambian....everything else is still on his list:confused: :confused:
 
Yeah, nothing but a sick rumor. He's still in business.

All the IP haters are just competitors lossing income. Deal with it.
 
MUSTANG_18 said:


Just cause I am a Mod I can't have my own opinion ?..You gotta be joking!!!!!

M18

Hmmmm, seems as though you misunderstood the post. Where did I say you can't have an opinion? In one of your posts you say that it's not his items you have problems with, it's him. Fine. That's your opinion.

Why though, would a Mod be so unprofessional as to post this on the board? You have a problem with the man. That is between you and him. If you had a problem with his products, then I agree, it should be posted.
 
ronan said:


Hmmmm, seems as though you misunderstood the post. Where did I say you can't have an opinion? In one of your posts you say that it's not his items you have problems with, it's him. Fine. That's your opinion.

Why though, would a Mod be so unprofessional as to post this on the board? You have a problem with the man. That is between you and him. If you had a problem with his products, then I agree, it should be posted.


Who says a mod HAS to be professional? Is it in the fine print? What did he do that was that bad anyways?

I think u need to take a chill pill and get off his ass!


Maxx >>>>>
 
Maxx Out said:



Who says a mod HAS to be professional? Is it in the fine print? What did he do that was that bad anyways?

I think u need to take a chill pill and get off his ass!


Maxx >>>>>

Thanks for that intelligent reply Maxx. "Who says a MOD has to be professional?" Nobody. I just thought it was the standard. Obviously not.

I think u need to lay off the Halo or Methyltest. Chill mate.
 
I think this thread should be locked up, deleted, or whatever.

1. The information in it is conflicting and/or hasn’t really been confirmed.
2. This post seems to be causing an uproar on every board.
3. This thread has just turned into squabbling match that isn’t going anywhere.

If :karate: is going to quit I’m sure he’ll inform the appropriate people when they order or get a list. Get the info from the man himself rather than internet rumors. Roidog didn’t even say for sure :karate: was going down, he just made a speculation on a e-mail from a very frustrated :karate:.
 
OK. If he meant he is unhappy with the way he conducts business, then I apologise for being out of line.

In my cynical mind, it sounded like he had a personal beef with the fella.
 
For starters i love m18, hes helped me in teh past and ehs a great mod for this board. Second, i find nothing wrong with ips oral's, but i would enver stick his stuff in my ass, your asking for infection. thirdly, i would never buy direct, you just cant trust someone with sooo many orders comming in to get you individual order actually sent, buy from re-sellers.


painly
 
Im not sorry to see him go.

That bastard deserves to go out of business. His products are SHIT !! and he is an ASSHOLE !!!!!


can somebody say amen.
 
ronan said:
OK. If he meant he is unhappy with the way he conducts business, then I apologise for being out of line.

In my cynical mind, it sounded like he had a personal beef with the fella.

I guess there is some fault of mine as well. I don't like his attitude towards his customers in general. Thye have to watch there step around him and if they say one thing wrong then he gets pissed. I personally have never had a beef with the guy, just the way he does buiss and his overall attitude.

M18
 
I just spoke with my guy who is a domestic reseller and He said he has heard nothing about this from ** what so ever....OH well on goes the Saga:confused:
 
MUSTANG_18 said:


I guess there is some fault of mine as well. I don't like his attitude towards his customers in general. Thye have to watch there step around him and if they say one thing wrong then he gets pissed. I personally have never had a beef with the guy, just the way he does buiss and his overall attitude.

M18

I agree about his attitude. Could do with a crash course in customer service.
 
...LOL...nice to see the usual IP bashing on Elite...and as usual no one knows what the FUCK they're talking about...
 
bleedo said:
...LOL...nice to see the usual IP bashing on Elite...and as usual no one knows what the FUCK they're talking about...

Whatever buddy! You don't like it here, LEAVE!!! If everyone is bashing him, it must be for a good reason ;)

M18
 
Ok, with all the uncalled for MUSTANG_18 bashing on this thread I think another "We love you Mustang" thread is on order.
 
bleedo said:
...LOL...nice to see the usual IP bashing on Elite...and as usual no one knows what the FUCK they're talking about...

HAHAHA you good friend Bleeo!!!! me only rike white radies for longtime boom boom with sexy man yellow!!!!!

I tell something. You and me and johnny wang meet for noodle soon !!!. I make extra test enan in my potty lab for ytou too!!!! wooohooo!!!! mnake you sexy man too!!! hahahahaha fun good!!!
 
bleedo said:
...LOL...nice to see the usual IP bashing on Elite...and as usual no one knows what the FUCK they're talking about...

You might want to take your head out of you ass long enough to read all posts.....I actually do know what I am talking about.
And when you get the shit cleaned out of your ears little man, you might want to listen to what is being said and learn from it.

Mustang.....see what happens whem I mix fina and sus !
 
SynergyJim said:
NA NA NA NA... NA NA NA NA...HEY EEEYYYYY GOOODBYE!

LOL
LOL

:D :spit: :spit: :moon: :kapow: :doublefi: :doublefi: :doublefi:


hehe...I could give 2 shits either way about IP but this is just fucking funny...
 
Well.....now that it took me 40 days and 40 nights to read this thread I have to say (and many mods Ive talked with including Mustang can say) I thought the whole IP thing was shady from the get go and Ive never had anything to do with the guy.

And for those that dont understand opinions that one is mine dont like it?? well then it is your God given right to express yourself and say so...will it matter...not really.

Now let me get to my point...we as mods get alot of email from people who deal with many different sources and from time to time we are asked to settle a situation or given a heads up with complaints towards certain dealers.

Many of you do not get these same email, now if Mustang has not had dealings with IP but has recieved many email from people who have and were not pleased then he has every right to base an opinion on similar reports given to him.

If you deal with IP and like him and his gear great!...but I can tell you straight up if I were to get alot of complaints about a source and his business practices I would make the same call Mustang did.

Peace,
WCP
 
ronan said:


Pretty disappointing attitude for a Mod. I thought you guys were supposed to be fair and unbiased, not bringing your personal views on the man to the forum.

Maybe you should stick around for a while before opening your fucking mouth on something like this.

Where have all these tools come from lately?
 
IPs problem

I think the problem with IP is that he got too much publicity.Sooner or later he will be stopped.I remember as this happened to Skouvars.First his packages started being stopped by US customs all the time and then after he was mentioned in a mag article(it seems MuscleMedia) US government pressed Greece and Skouvaras was arrested.I remember several more stories of this kind so those who love IPs products should keep in mind that sooner or later such publicity will do the bad thing for him.
 
genarr3 said:
Ok, with all the uncalled for MUSTANG_18 bashing on this thread I think another "We love you Mustang" thread is on order.

Dunno about the "We love you Mustang" thread, but the bashing definately needs to stop. Get this thread back on topic, or lock it.


.02,
Joker
 
I just emailed IP and asked him what the deal is. He responded within 8 hours and informed me that orals to the US are daily, no slow downs there. As far as his injectables, he said he's temporarily not sending to the US. Also, I asked him if the rumor was true that he was going to stop supplying. He said "not true".
 
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