Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
K
KAYNE
Guest
WELL!!!
KAYNE
KAYNE
huntmaster
New member
Yes
Doctor Dbol
New member
uh....there is no god
but santa claus is real!
but santa claus is real!
K
KAYNE
Guest
Doctor Dbol said:
WELL IS IT A PERVERSION OF SANTA'S WILL???
KAYNE
smallmovesal
New member
spongebob
New member
santa's response 
Bigsatan13
New member
smallmovesal said:
I thought that was a bishop!
huntmaster
New member
God loves the sinner
God hates the sin
Homosexuallality is not only a perversion but an abomination.
God hates the sin
Homosexuallality is not only a perversion but an abomination.
K
KAYNE
Guest
huntmaster said:
LOL....WELL SAID. I ALSO THINK IT IS AGAINST WHAT GOD HAD IN MIND.
ARE THE ONES THAT SAID NO HOMOS???
KAYNE
huntmaster
New member
KAYNE said:
I like to give folks the benefit of the doubt.
Many are straight but they have just bought into the modern day pol. correct BS.----they left what little values they once had far behind.---b/c TV told them so.
K
KAYNE
Guest
HUNTMASTER
IF WE WERE 10 YEARS OLD, I'D SAY YOU WERE MY NEW FRIEND. LOL......BUT SINCE WE ARE A LITTLE OLDER, I'LL JUST SAY YOUR COOL.
KAYNE
IF WE WERE 10 YEARS OLD, I'D SAY YOU WERE MY NEW FRIEND. LOL......BUT SINCE WE ARE A LITTLE OLDER, I'LL JUST SAY YOUR COOL.
KAYNE
K
KAYNE
Guest
I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOMOSEXUALS. I JUST THINK IT IS MORALLY DEGRADING AND DISGUSTING. IT HAS NO PLACE IN NATURE IF YOU ASKED ME. I MEAN, LETS THINK ABOUT THIS LOGICALLY HERE!!!
KAYNE
KAYNE
huntmaster
New member
KAYNE said:
Thanks KAYNE---How is your brother ----Undertaker??
Never did like that bastard.
huntmaster
New member
I dont think that they should receive special rights
I think it should be considere an illness
An illness to be treated
I definitely dont think it should be socially accepted and in turn force fed to children abroad.---this is wrong.
We must send the right message to our children---not one of persecution, but one of support in the right direction and one that is clear on what is right and what is wrong.
I think it should be considere an illness
An illness to be treated
I definitely dont think it should be socially accepted and in turn force fed to children abroad.---this is wrong.
We must send the right message to our children---not one of persecution, but one of support in the right direction and one that is clear on what is right and what is wrong.
hmmm
i will agree the image of america portrayed on TV is probably a lot different to actuality if this board is anything to go by
but isn't then the modifying of laws to portray homosexuality to children as wrong merging church and state? and if so, where do the views of non-church go-ers get represented
also, how do you treat homosexuality, or sexuality in general. (ok castration is one method....but a bit messy )
as for special rights thats fair enough.....but equal rights? marriage (in legal terms?)....adoption rights?
i will agree the image of america portrayed on TV is probably a lot different to actuality if this board is anything to go by
but isn't then the modifying of laws to portray homosexuality to children as wrong merging church and state? and if so, where do the views of non-church go-ers get represented
also, how do you treat homosexuality, or sexuality in general. (ok castration is one method....but a bit messy
)as for special rights thats fair enough.....but equal rights? marriage (in legal terms?)....adoption rights?
huntmaster
New member
I am not speaking of specific laws---just my beliefes
I would have to think long and hard and consult God concerning the making of laws regarding this.
I definitely dont believe in marriage or adoption rights at all--
I still must keep in mind that I am in America--and what has happened here---and how the people's minds in America have been shaped by deviants such as slick willy and Jesse Jackson.
I would just like to see us get moving in the right direction and quit trying to go out of our way to say it is a good thing
and start treating the problem
I dont hate homosexuals
I worked with a guy once who was gay and me and him talked about God and creation and everything---he even came to our Bible study.
He knew that I was not condoning his lifestyle but I was also not hating him.
This is the example that Jesus set when He walked the earth.
I would have to think long and hard and consult God concerning the making of laws regarding this.
I definitely dont believe in marriage or adoption rights at all--
I still must keep in mind that I am in America--and what has happened here---and how the people's minds in America have been shaped by deviants such as slick willy and Jesse Jackson.
I would just like to see us get moving in the right direction and quit trying to go out of our way to say it is a good thing
and start treating the problem
I dont hate homosexuals
I worked with a guy once who was gay and me and him talked about God and creation and everything---he even came to our Bible study.
He knew that I was not condoning his lifestyle but I was also not hating him.
This is the example that Jesus set when He walked the earth.
RyanH
New member
God has no relevance to this conversation since God does not exist.
Separation of church and state is a fundamental constitutional premise that will continue to protect minorities and gays from the persucution of the religious majority.
As for the uninformed comments alleging that being gay is an illness----if so, then many of the most successful, well-built, progressive intellectuals in our world are ill. Many gay and lesbian critics will never rise to the level of greatest that many gays and lesbians have risen to.
Truman Capote and Tennessee Williams, for instance, are remembered for great works of literature; while many "conservative, angry white males" will be remembered for nothing, but their gun collection, maybe, and even that is a laughable long-shot (no pun intended).
But, at heart, we simply know gays aren't ill at all, don't we? We know that jealousy and insecurities often push petulent, unenlighted homophobes to say things that go against all sense, logic, and reason. Stupidity will always exist, just as absurd notions that gays are somehow ill will exist as well.
The real illness is unenlightened stupidity. Unfortunately, a few of you qualify.
Ryan.
P.S: -- Atlanta recently elected it's first lesbian as leader of it's city council. Just proof that even the South, is losing in the archaic fight to oppress those who are different from themselves. The family is being redefined, and quite, frankly, there is nothing you can do about it, is there?
You're only real alternative is to sit back, complain, and watch,while gays successfully show society that a new way of life is winning the day...........................Dad and Dad, son and daughter, whatever the combination, what it means to be a family is being redefined as we speak......
Separation of church and state is a fundamental constitutional premise that will continue to protect minorities and gays from the persucution of the religious majority.
As for the uninformed comments alleging that being gay is an illness----if so, then many of the most successful, well-built, progressive intellectuals in our world are ill. Many gay and lesbian critics will never rise to the level of greatest that many gays and lesbians have risen to.
Truman Capote and Tennessee Williams, for instance, are remembered for great works of literature; while many "conservative, angry white males" will be remembered for nothing, but their gun collection, maybe, and even that is a laughable long-shot (no pun intended).
But, at heart, we simply know gays aren't ill at all, don't we? We know that jealousy and insecurities often push petulent, unenlighted homophobes to say things that go against all sense, logic, and reason. Stupidity will always exist, just as absurd notions that gays are somehow ill will exist as well.
The real illness is unenlightened stupidity. Unfortunately, a few of you qualify.
Ryan.
P.S: -- Atlanta recently elected it's first lesbian as leader of it's city council. Just proof that even the South, is losing in the archaic fight to oppress those who are different from themselves. The family is being redefined, and quite, frankly, there is nothing you can do about it, is there?
You're only real alternative is to sit back, complain, and watch,while gays successfully show society that a new way of life is winning the day...........................Dad and Dad, son and daughter, whatever the combination, what it means to be a family is being redefined as we speak......
huntmaster
New member
RyanH said:
I am sorry you feel that way.
I am interested--where did we come from if there is no God?
We all, 'just so happened,' are all the same and ---the miracle of life and breath and birth---just coincidence right? sure.
RyanH said:
this does not exist in the constitution--you should know that, are you not a lawyer?
RyanH said:
depends on how you define greatness and success--most likely not as I do.
musclebrains
New member
huntmaster said:
Jesus must be so proud of you -- and unconcerned with your profound capacity for arguing the denial of something as fundamental as loving partnership and family building to an entire group of people on the basis of your personal belief.
Of course, your chitchat with God should provide plenty of corroborative evidence -- which is necessary since the Bible, which you would otherwise call the word of God -- says absolutely nothing about homosexuality. Even the mistranslated sections of Leviticus are in a context of prohibitions that the church ignores -- except for the one that, by a mistranslation, suits its loveless agenda.
I couldn't care less that you engage in the sophomoric dismissal of homosexuality while claiming to love the sinner -- as if certain forms of consensual love require your judgement (whatever!). But to argue that your moralistic posturing is a reasonable argument to deny rights -- which only become "special" because they are so selectively denied in the first place -- is absurd outside a theocracy.
But you go ahead and worry about the poor defenseless children who will be so twisted by the approval of all forms of consensual love. I'll continue to make my agenda the elimination of ignorance, willful stupidity and hate. Maybe I'll have a chat with god about it.
Last edited:
huntmaster said:
The whole problem with using god to determine the rights and wrongs of homosexuality is, does he answer you? and, which god?
My beliefs really say nothing about homosexuality, but these beliefs have nothing to do with modern political correctness, as some on this thread have indicated is the birthplace of tolerance (as though that were a bad thing). It's several centuries older than the christianity I assume you're talking about.
So where do you get your answer? The bible doesn't condemn it, even in the old testament. Jesus certainly doesn't. The only condemnations of it that preachers can ever find come in from the King james translation and translations that follow it. Study even a little Hebrew and you'll see how very hard the puritans of the time had to go to twist the original words to put their own personal beliefs into the mix. The "word of god" -- ie, the bible that jesus knew as the old testament, and the books as they were written about him after he died -- doesn't condemn homosexuals.
You're entitled to your beliefs, of course. But I really don't think that the mistranslation of the bible or the answer you personally get when you "consult god" really qualify as good reasons for deciding who gets married, who can adopt, or who gets fewer rights than who.
Just my opinion.
Wyst
Yes - homosexuality is a perversion of God's will.
I dont know if homosexuality is an illness, persay, but its not something that needs to be treated specially. It needs to be treated like it's an anti-social activity. I hope they never legalize or recognize same sex marriages. Also, I dont think gay couples should be able to adopt a child.
God does exist. As I once pointed out to a friend of mine who is Athiest (sp?), Jesus walked the earth and was seen by thousands of people and crowds, so there is absolutely no doubt he existed. Saying he didnt exist because theres no photos of him would be like saying Christopher Columbus didnt exist, it just happened earlier. He told me he believed Jesus existed after that, but only considered him "a popular guy". However, thousands of people also saw him cure others and do miracles. I feel sorry for people like RyanH, for not only is he likely a flaming homosexual, but that he doesnt believe in God. An eternity burning in hell might be in order... Its not too late Ryan, pick up 'the good book' and get your read on. Often gays will deny the existence of God simply b/c they know its a perversion/abomination to be homosexual.
Huntmaster - Kane is cool, but Undertaker is the coolest, probably the best WWF wrestler of all time, tied with the Hulkster.
I dont know if homosexuality is an illness, persay, but its not something that needs to be treated specially. It needs to be treated like it's an anti-social activity. I hope they never legalize or recognize same sex marriages. Also, I dont think gay couples should be able to adopt a child.
God does exist. As I once pointed out to a friend of mine who is Athiest (sp?), Jesus walked the earth and was seen by thousands of people and crowds, so there is absolutely no doubt he existed. Saying he didnt exist because theres no photos of him would be like saying Christopher Columbus didnt exist, it just happened earlier. He told me he believed Jesus existed after that, but only considered him "a popular guy". However, thousands of people also saw him cure others and do miracles. I feel sorry for people like RyanH, for not only is he likely a flaming homosexual, but that he doesnt believe in God. An eternity burning in hell might be in order... Its not too late Ryan, pick up 'the good book' and get your read on. Often gays will deny the existence of God simply b/c they know its a perversion/abomination to be homosexual.
Huntmaster - Kane is cool, but Undertaker is the coolest, probably the best WWF wrestler of all time, tied with the Hulkster.
musclebrains
New member
The Canadian Oak said:
Care to explain how extending protection against discrimination in hiring and housing -- which is already extended to women and racial minoirities -- is saying "ohh look at me, I'm different, give me special treatment"?
It seems to me that allowing people to discriminate selectively in this way is special mistreatment.
musclebrains
New member
BeefyBull said:
What makes it "anti-social" is intolerance of it. that's a no-brainer. It is otherwise a manner of loving different from your own, between fully consensual people.
Personally, I think ignorant people who want to limit people's consensual capacity to love should be forbidden to teach, preach or engage in any of the psychological professions.
BeefyBull said:
I think God hates atheism a lot more than homosexuality. You can't say that homosexuals are going to hell for certain! How would you know?!
But those that think it isn't a perversion--what purpose would it serve? Think of it in terms of natural law. What is the purpose? They don't reproduce or anything.
While we're on this topic, I'd like to say that one of my pet peeves is guys who are "turned on by lesbians" but go off on how gross gay men are. Come on, they're both perversions. But that doesn't give anyone the right to hate people. As soon as someone starts telling you that "God hates so-and-so" you know they're full of shit. God doesn't hate anyone, no matter how horrible they are.
I agree with huntmaster and kayne. It is a perversion of God's will. He made Adam and Eve to be as one. And he also talked about how a man shall leave his mother and father for a wife and they shall be as one. He never mentions two guys joining together.
I know homosexuals don't like hearing that or want to believe it. But God made the planet so he makes the rules. Homosexuality is just a sin like any other sin and you need God to rid you of it. No one is born a homosexual they just lean toward that sin like a alcoholic leans toward alcoholism. I just think it is a travesty today that our culture is trying to get people to except homosexuality is an ok behavior when cleary it is not and use to be kept where sin should be kept in a closet.
Here is another scripture in the new testestamen about homosexuality different than the one king john used to refute muscles brains erroneous comment that homosexuality is only mentioned in Leviticus.
Romans 1:26-27
Because of this, God gave tehm over to shamful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with for on one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men , and received in themselves the due penalty for theri perversion.
There is another passage where God condones a nation for accepting and approving of homosexual behavior. That is why Christians will never accept it because it also effects negatively how God feels about our country.
I know homosexuals don't like hearing that or want to believe it. But God made the planet so he makes the rules. Homosexuality is just a sin like any other sin and you need God to rid you of it. No one is born a homosexual they just lean toward that sin like a alcoholic leans toward alcoholism. I just think it is a travesty today that our culture is trying to get people to except homosexuality is an ok behavior when cleary it is not and use to be kept where sin should be kept in a closet.
Here is another scripture in the new testestamen about homosexuality different than the one king john used to refute muscles brains erroneous comment that homosexuality is only mentioned in Leviticus.
Romans 1:26-27
Because of this, God gave tehm over to shamful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with for on one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men , and received in themselves the due penalty for theri perversion.
There is another passage where God condones a nation for accepting and approving of homosexual behavior. That is why Christians will never accept it because it also effects negatively how God feels about our country.
Train Harder
New member
I believe it goes against God's will. It's a learned behavior and not genetic. If it were a genetic problem perhaps we could view it differently, but until a specific gene is denoted as the "gay" gene it's behavior that can be avoided.
D
dballer
Guest
Yes - homosexuality is a perversion of God's will.
but you all knew I would say that.
but you all knew I would say that.
D
dballer
Guest
RyanH said:
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.. I was worried I would have to see you up there.
havoc
Shaolin Ninja
Look , I'm just trying to speak the truth here.
Heaven is not below you or above you, heaven is knowing God and yourself.
Also, adam and eve can't be used in this arguement for any sakes. The first 5 books of the bible are a liturgy for the jewish people of that time, to teach lessons and morals, not to be taken literally. Yes Adam and Eve are man and woman, I see that as a point, however, to actually believe in Adam and Eve in a literal manner is lack of common sense, even without the historical truth about that parable. peace
Heaven is not below you or above you, heaven is knowing God and yourself.
Also, adam and eve can't be used in this arguement for any sakes. The first 5 books of the bible are a liturgy for the jewish people of that time, to teach lessons and morals, not to be taken literally. Yes Adam and Eve are man and woman, I see that as a point, however, to actually believe in Adam and Eve in a literal manner is lack of common sense, even without the historical truth about that parable. peace
D
dballer
Guest
that was meant to laugh at.. kinda like his off the wall left wing satanic communits posts are.
havoc
Shaolin Ninja
dgreenhill said:
Greenhill, you always attempt to challenge me. Not sure where you got that New Age garbage from, I have nothing to do with that, my roots and beliefs stem from the beginning of time, nothing new age. Demons don't exist, any excorcism ever performed has never been proven, the word "demon" translates in hebrew to an "evil spirit" implying that the person or animal acting in such a manner already had that evil spirit or side within them, its not a seperate entity leaping into ones body and controlling them in the stereotypical fashion and brainwashed concept you and others have subjected themselves to. Does this help? peace
musclebrains
New member
kingjohn said:
The Cornthians quote has been well dissected by Biblical scholars. It refers to the Greek system of pederasty. it does not refer to homosexuality per se.
havoc
Shaolin Ninja
Curling, that particular episode has been interpreted in many different ways. Also, the New Testament is the most redacted and edited part of the bible, for example, Matt, Mark, Luke, John, those are not even the actual names of the Gospel writers, they were just used to seperate and distinguish them appropriately. Here is the bottom line, does it matter if you believe me or you and greenhill, no , not really, that has nothing to do with the faith whatsoever, however, I like to know the truth about everything, therefore thats when I intervene and explain the true theology and meaning. If we put 50 Christians in a room, all will have different perspectives, if I ask them "name one thing that you should have in common with each other as Christians", the only damn thing that should come out of there mouth is "that they each should emulate Christ to the best of there ability", thats it. peace
havoc
Shaolin Ninja
dgreenhill said:
Hell is not knowing God, and I don't want to be like that either, I never said once that I think Homosexuality is not sinful, but who am I to judge, being gay not only goes against the many religions but as I have stated before, it goes against the laws of nature. peace to the greenhill and may some high grade herb be a part of your day
On that Corinthians quote--You'll notice it also mentions fornicators (For those who don't know, fornication is sex before marriage). How many of you have engaged in that particular behavior? I've seen all kinds of posts on it. Now I'm not saying homosexuality is OK, I'm just saying that you should let God do the judging of individual people. Fornication is a sin too, but we conveniently forget that since it's so socially acceptable today. One could argue that at least homosexuality doesn't lead to unwanted pregnancy, abortion, fatherless children, etc.
"Do not judge so that you may not be judged. For with the judgement you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye but do not see the log in your own eye?"
-Matthew, 7:1-4
I personally have never engaged in fornication (or homosexuality LOL), but how popular would I be if I sat here and told everyone who talked about their unmarried sexual encounters that they were going to hell? I agree that homosexuality is unnatural and that God doesn't like it, but those "all homosexuals go to hell" type comments are really uncalled for.
"Do not judge so that you may not be judged. For with the judgement you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye but do not see the log in your own eye?"
-Matthew, 7:1-4
I personally have never engaged in fornication (or homosexuality LOL), but how popular would I be if I sat here and told everyone who talked about their unmarried sexual encounters that they were going to hell? I agree that homosexuality is unnatural and that God doesn't like it, but those "all homosexuals go to hell" type comments are really uncalled for.
You of course are right enrico. I guess the difference is people know that sex before marriage is wrong even though they still do it (I am married btw so I can have all the sex I want or at least as much as my wife will give me 
) But homosexuals and the media want you to accept homosexuality as ok when it according to God is not.
See the difference?
) But homosexuals and the media want you to accept homosexuality as ok when it according to God is not. See the difference?
musclebrains
New member
kingjohn said:
Glad the Bible is so clear to you. As it happens, several ancient councils were called to clarify, translate and re-translate it. Every Sunday morning, ministers stand up to interpret it for congregations. Clear? Like any work of literature, the Bible depends on amibiguity and poetry to continue interesting people. For every evangelist who proclaims the meaning of a passage clear, there is another claiming an opposing meaning is just as clear.
curling said:You of course are right enrico. I guess the difference is people know that sex before marriage is wrong even though they still do it (I am married btw so I can have all the sex I want or at least as much as my wife will give me
See the difference?
Yes I see what you're saying. I wish the media would stop trying to shove all this crap down our throats!
curling said:You of course are right enrico. I guess the difference is people know that sex before marriage is wrong even though they still do it (I am married btw so I can have all the sex I want or at least as much as my wife will give me
See the difference?
The only thing is, if you go back to early enough versions of the bible, there's basically nothing against homsexuality in them. Just about everything that is commonly used to prove god is against homosexuality is a much later interpretation/bad translation. The old testament that Jesus would have read (and remember, he was a holy man and believed in that old testament, preached from it) did not condemn homosexuality. Adultery yes. Homosexuality no.
Wyst
musclebrains
New member
Gay people want the freedom to love and move freely in society with protection. The idea that anyone's God stands against love and freedom is sad.
Knowing today's fundamentalists, they'd disapprove of Jesus' associations with his disciples.
Knowing today's fundamentalists, they'd disapprove of Jesus' associations with his disciples.
Enrico said:
I work in the media, and I can tell you that by and large there is no intention of shoving crap down people's throats. The mass media is horrifically money oriented. They do amazingly detailed research before greenlighting any project anymore. If there's a show on that offends you, or a magazine published, or a big budget movie released, it's because they think (rightly or wrongly -- sometimes their research is shockingly bad, despite the millions they spend on it) that there are millions of people who want to watch it. That's not to say I approve of more than about 10% of the crap that gets broadcast/written/filmed -- just that really, it's mostly about money.
You're totally within your rights to object to the crap on TV etc., but honestly there's no grand media conspiracy to shove a message down your throat.
Wyst
huntmaster
New member
Enrico said:
To say that quoting the Bible is standing in judgment is false.
KingJohn was displaying scripture that speaks against homosexuallity in response to musclebrains saying it was not referenced in the Bible.
He was showing the board how musclebrains is trying to mislead them.
Dont say he is judging when he is not---there is no need for that here.
huntmaster
New member
curling said:
great post and thanks for posting Romans 1:27---you beat me to it!
huntmaster
New member
musclebrains said:
loving partnership and family building ----- Are gay men physically able to bare children??? Huh I wonder why that is?
Because homosexuallality is part of man's plan-----Not God's.
It is an abomination.
musclebrains said:
As we see in this thread with the references to Corinthians and Romans---this is a false statement by musclebrains.
musclebrains said:
I will go on praying for the children of today who have to be raised around this crap----
and I encourage you to talk to God about this----
theoak01
New member
i dont think its right anyone gets any different ttreatment then another person for jobs its who is mroe qualtified,its bullshit on all levels
oh hire me cuz im a paki
if you dont hire me your sexist
its all bullshit
now i respect everyone on teh same level so why cant it be equal
oh hire me cuz im a paki
if you dont hire me your sexist
its all bullshit
now i respect everyone on teh same level so why cant it be equal
Last edited:
musclebrains
New member
huntmaster said:
Oh, I see. So, if being physically able to "bare" children is the requirement for raising kids, women and men who are infertile should likewise be prohibited. What a pathetic argument.
Who put you in charge of deciding "god's plan"? Which god? Which religion? The most you can say is that you and your brand of Christianity disapproves of homosexuality. Fortunately, it's only one flavor of a religion that has lost enormous ground.
My statements were not false. You just read a convenient translation of the Bible and if you did any research rather than regurgitating your hateful condemnation (which you have the sheer hubris to say is God's word), you'd know that. And, no, I'm not going to do Biblical research for you because you'd just discount the research as interpretive. Moreover, it's been cited here in earlier threads.
Perhaps I'll take your advice and chat with God, but it won't be to the tiny, spiteful, hateful little god you worship. Of course anyone who gets a message from god that's different from your own must not share your superior hotline, correct?
It's very simple. Gay people want the freedom to love. They don't want the freedom to do anything to anyone unconsensual. Love, got it? You are free to spread your judgmental, negative message. Other people should be just as free to love.
D
dballer
Guest
musclebrains said:
Gay people are allowed to love... he is just saying no kids!!
musclebrains
New member
The Canadian Oak said:
Because it isn't. It is legal to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation but not on the basis of gender or race. The fact that it "should" be otherwise can only be enforced by extending protection to gays and lesbians.
Again: How is extending protection to a group which is selectively discrimated against conferring a special right?
musclebrains
New member
dballer said:
Wrong. He is saying that that love cannot be extended to the creation of families. It is an effort to tell people how they can love.
There is not a single shred of evidence that gay people are worse parents than straight people. There is not even a shred of evidence that gay parents influence their children to become gay.
Would yoiu withhold love from your own child if he turned out to be gay? should society take the child from you because you "made" him gay? should the state intervene in the way you conduct your family life? yet you want the state to intervene in the adoption of children by gay people.
Yes! They don't need or want any special freedoms or protections -- just the same ones everyone gets.
Most Christians *I* know don't give a damn what your sexual orientation is. They worship the god of love and tolerance, after all. They view this obsession with homosexuality as being as outmoded as the biblical proscriptions against masturbation and birth control.
You guys all whack off and practice brith control, right? I think it's funny how the stuff that applies to your own sexuality is all okay to ignore, but the stuff that applies to anyone else's you feel it's okay to run them down, call them abominations, etc. Or am I mistaken here?
Wyst
Most Christians *I* know don't give a damn what your sexual orientation is. They worship the god of love and tolerance, after all. They view this obsession with homosexuality as being as outmoded as the biblical proscriptions against masturbation and birth control.
You guys all whack off and practice brith control, right? I think it's funny how the stuff that applies to your own sexuality is all okay to ignore, but the stuff that applies to anyone else's you feel it's okay to run them down, call them abominations, etc. Or am I mistaken here?
Wyst
huntmaster
New member
musclebrains said:
when I posted that I knew someone would say this---
of course I dont think infertile parents should not be able to seek alternatives.--these are exceptions
I am talking about rules --- rules laid out by God, our creator.
musclebrains said:
I am not deciding God's plan---I am only relaying my feelings on the subject based on my relationship with Christ and my reading of His word
musclebrains said:
I pray for mercy from God on your soul.
musclebrains said:
Do you remember when you were a kid and you wanted to do something--but your folks told you it was wrong and they stood firm and would not let you---you probably thought they were hatefull then--but you are better for it now.
Look---me message is not one of hate---but rather one of truth.
this thread asked what people thought about the subject---so I shared my thoughts and conviction and I dont appalogize for them.
I do not in any way hate homosexualls
Sushi X
New member
MB, you and i had a discussion on this last month or so i do believe. my question is why does this subject keep coming up. both MB and myself presented both sides of the argument. i quoted scripture he gave his interpretation on it. we had a civil discussion and concluded that niehter one of us were changing our minds on it. so this subjuect is getting old and won't change anyone's minds on it.
ryan, read the thread title and you will see God is very relevant to the topic at hand. you my friend are the unelightened one. how's that trust fund you're living off of that you are so against?
ryan, read the thread title and you will see God is very relevant to the topic at hand. you my friend are the unelightened one. how's that trust fund you're living off of that you are so against?
huntmaster
New member
I will be leaving for work now---any further attacks on my character will be addressed later tonight
gymtime
New member
It is an interesting subject that has and will continue to come up no matter how bored you may be with it. One conversation, no matter how comprehensive, should not pre-empt future ones.
My guess is that MB is fully aware that he is beating a dead horse here. Arguing with someone who uses the bible, religion, whatever, to think for them is like arguing with a glass of water. After all, people who believe they already know "the truth" don't really need to apply any cognitive reasoning to life's many conundrums.
But in MB's defense, he's newly on a cycle and has lagging calves, which would get to anyone. He probably just felt like punching a heavy bag today. Good thing his soul is currently being prayed for.
My guess is that MB is fully aware that he is beating a dead horse here. Arguing with someone who uses the bible, religion, whatever, to think for them is like arguing with a glass of water. After all, people who believe they already know "the truth" don't really need to apply any cognitive reasoning to life's many conundrums.
But in MB's defense, he's newly on a cycle and has lagging calves, which would get to anyone. He probably just felt like punching a heavy bag today. Good thing his soul is currently being prayed for.
Last edited:
musclebrains
New member
Oh, a big eyeroll for that, Kingjohn. Shall I post pictures of heterosexuals on Bourbon Street, of Shriners staggering through Los Angeles, of guys at the Super Bowl? Or pictures of the thousands of heterosexual men -- men like YOU -- convicted for sexually molesting their children?
And shall we conclude on the basis of these photographs that heterosexuals are not fit to parent?
Don't get your panties in a wad, King John, but that wudn't too smart.
And shall we conclude on the basis of these photographs that heterosexuals are not fit to parent?
Don't get your panties in a wad, King John, but that wudn't too smart.
musclebrains
New member
gymtime said:
LOL...I'm gonna have a chat with Jesus about my calves.
musclebrains
New member
huntmaster said:
Of course you don't. You hate the sin, not the sinner. It's like you and me. I don't hate you. I hate your petty small minded ignorance. I know you won't take offense at that because I've been careful to discriminate between YOU and the way you think and behave.
In any case, your thoughts and convictions have repeatedly been represented as "rules laid out by god." It is amazing that you can claim only to represent your personal conviction a sentence after you've claimed to speak of these divinely ordained rules.
I pray for god's mercy on anyone who encourages hate, speaks against love and tries to pass off his condemnation as divinely inspired.
by the way, everything I write is a personal conviction resulting from a chat with god.
musclebrains said:
Yes, in fact, when I was chatting about this thread with god during my coffee break, he mentioned he'd spoken to you. We had a good laugh about a cruel old-testatment style joke he was playing on you...something about bird-legs? I had trouble catching it all because he was laughing so hard water came out of his nose. I asked him to explain but he had to dash out and smite some unbelievers, hip and thigh, bone and marrow. That nutty Jehova. Gotta love him.
Wyst
smallmovesal
New member
god didn't talk to me, instead he telepathically sent me a picture of mb..
scroll to the bottom of the page... poor mb
paulsnarcissism.tripod.com/ dec00.htm
scroll to the bottom of the page... poor mb
paulsnarcissism.tripod.com/ dec00.htm
Last edited:
musclebrains
New member
kingjohn said:
Mkay. But you know when one guy is telling me Jesus tells him this or that, it's hard to be sure where the next guy is coming from. Those pictures should make it obvious I have a sense of humor about queer life. Karma backatcha.
musclebrains
New member
68GT350 said:
So glad you took time out of your busy schedule to worry yourself about my calves, J-Man. I was hoping I could have some calves like Gymtime's but, unlike him, I don't want to get silicone implants. Can you help out a struggling calf-less sinner? I promise to put my dick in places you approve of in the future.
K
KAYNE
Guest
DAMN, I DIDNT THINK THIS THREAD WOULD TURN INTO THIS. I WAS HOPING FOR 10 REPLIES.
KAYNE
KAYNE
musclebrains
New member
wyst said:
Well, discounting the fact that I find God a bit of a gossip, it's suddenly become clear to me that my taste for sodomy might explain why he hath cursed me with a 12-inch dick.
smallmovesal
New member
god spilled the beans to strongchick that i sadly have had to move on... our sweet wyst has caught my eye.
musclebrains
New member
68GT350 said:
It is amusing how ignorant Jesus can be in his assumption that all homsexuals like to be buttfucked. If this is the cost of good calves, it says an awful lot about Gymtime.
That danged Jehova...he can't keep a secret about anything. I knew I shouldn't have told him about us. He promised he'd keep it under his hat. I bet he goes the burning bush route and blabs it all over the mountaintops.
Oh well. It's sooner than I was ready to make it all public, but I'm damned proud of my virtual sweetie (and her mighty, bulging biceps).
Wyst
PS: MB, it's my understanding that he gave those beauties out to the guys who would make good use of them. Take thou that how thou wilt.
Oh well. It's sooner than I was ready to make it all public, but I'm damned proud of my virtual sweetie (and her mighty, bulging biceps).
Wyst
PS: MB, it's my understanding that he gave those beauties out to the guys who would make good use of them. Take thou that how thou wilt.
smallmovesal
New member
hehe go back to that thread hon
latinoheat6u
New member
Plain and simple YES!!!
musclebrains
New member
gymtime said:
Judge not lest ye be judged Dr. Toothpicks!!!! This is the thanks I get for my Solomon-like calf-raises advice?!? How dare you!!
You call donkey-calf-raises with me sitting on your butt Solomon-like?
musclebrains
New member
68GT350 said:
Yes it does. I have great calves myself.
I just spit out a mouthful of calf-building apple-melon-flavored Isopure Zero Carb.
musclebrains
New member
musclebrains
New member
Why is that one guy wearing a dress?
musclebrains
New member
I think that picture has the potential to offend some people.
