is hcg a must on this cycle

[jamaican]

age:27
BF:19%

third cycle i am done with long cycle hate side-effect (water reten-acne-etc) so i will go with short cycle which will be like

test prop 100 eod week1-6
dbol 25-40 ed week 1-4
tren 75 eod week 1-4
winstrol 50 ed week 3-6

hcg for 10 days before the last prop shot 1500iu every 3 days untill the last shot of prop and then begin clomid after 4 days
200 1st day/100/50/50/50
advice please and would it be a good gain or not and my pic attached

 

[stevesmi]

no way you are 19% body fat in that pic man.. you are around 14-15% tops just based on your flat stomach.

anyway i would put on some more muscle before running your cycle, get better conditioned.. don't spend your cycle getting conditioned..

i have a link in my signature of how to run a cycle/ancillaries and PCT. i would read that, it will answer all your questions and more

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Way to.much hcg.... U get the same results fro hcg regardless of dose.... Its an all or nothing effect. 500 ius per week is more than enough. Ur just wasting good gear bro... Like the 6 Weeks on 6 Weeks off

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[jamaican]

i have a link in my signature of how to run a cycle/ancillaries and PCT. i would read that, it will answer all your questions and more

thanks guys , you know all my problem is that i live in a place called (egypt) that i dont find around me but steroids with out any information about using it (how) like one of my freinds was so happy (why) becuase he did acycle (so) (what) (is) (the cycle) (deca) cool and what else my freind (nothing) damn!!! WTF only deca (yes) ok what did he got for pct (nothing) >>>> thats one example .
so idont have a bac water in egypt to mix 5000iu hcg for 250iu or 500iu and it costs (60$) to ship so what can i do about it .

 

[jamaican]

Way to.much hcg.... U get the same results fro hcg regardless of dose.... Its an all or nothing effect. 500 ius per week is more than enough. Ur just wasting good gear bro... Like the 6 Weeks on 6 Weeks off

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thanks guys , you know all my problem is that i live in a place called (egypt) that i dont find around me but steroids with out any information about using it (how) like one of my freinds was so happy (why) becuase he did acycle (so) (what) (is) (the cycle) (deca) cool and what else my freind (nothing) damn!!! WTF only deca (yes) ok what did he got for PCT (nothing) >>>> thats one example .
so idont have a bac water in egypt to mix 5000iu hcg for 250iu or 500iu and it costs (60$) to ship so what can i do about it .

 

[bobbie]

I personally run it rite the way throught my cycle at 250-500iu per wk keeps my balls big and makes my recovery a lot easier not that at my age i com of that often.. As for ur course i wud run it for 10-12wks and just my thoughts

 

[bluetoolpaul]

Hcg really helps but if u can live w/ shrunken and ascended nuts(as in into ur pelvis) then hcg is not imperative. I prefer to have it myself.

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[RADAR]

I've been in this for 40 yrs and my opinion would be to listen to steve, you need to build some muscle naturally, the better your foundation is -the better Steroids will work!

Get your diet dialed in... Rome wasn't built in a day!

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...-build-muscle-loose-fat-then-read-712503.html

 

[stevesmi]

radar is right. i do think you have tremendous genetics by your pic, your biceps are big for a natty guy already. but i can tell your diet as radar said needs work. WHOLE FOODS man.. i know it can be tough in your part of the world to eat fresh fruits and veggies but you have to. stay away from processed junk.

as far as hcg if you cannot get a hold of it then i would try to get some hcgenerate from needtobuildemuscle.com.. i dont see why they dont ship to egypt.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'll let others answer the question specifically, but I will say this...

I never put someone down for their genetics, but it's clear based on your frame and age that you can put on more muscle naturally. I'll call it now -- you're not training seriously. You barely look like a guy who works out, no less someone who did 3 cycles and is looking to do another at ovar a gram a week. Dude, pick up a few good supps like BIG BLAST and BRIDGE and get a little closer to the weight rack. That's my advice.

 

[jamaican]

radar is right. i do think you have tremendous genetics by your pic, your biceps are big for a natty guy already. but i can tell your diet as radar said needs work. WHOLE FOODS man.. i know it can be tough in your part of the world to eat fresh fruits and veggies but you have to. stay away from processed junk.

as far as hcg if you cannot get a hold of it then i would try to get some hcgenerate from needtobuildemuscle.com.. i dont see why they dont ship to egypt.

hi guys its just great to contact with such a world like yours alot of knowledge and help-full becuase in egypt if the one is helpfull so he is ignorant and if he have knowledge so he is such a bastard so any way thanks so much for you guys and i did ordered some bac water so how can i use hcg and i will take with radar advice with my diet for like 3-4month and then begin the cycle so is that cycle will give me good gain and how can i use hcg with it and thanks again

 

[jamaican]

I've been in this for 40 yrs and my opinion would be to listen to steve, you need to build some muscle naturally, the better your foundation is -the better Steroids will work!

Get your diet dialed in... Rome wasn't built in a day!

hi guys its just great to contact with such a world like yours alot of knowledge and help-full becuase in egypt if the one is helpfull so he is ignorant and if he have knowledge so he is a such bastard so any way thanks so much for you guys and i did ordered some bac water so how can i use hcg and i will take with radar advice with my diet for like 3-4month and then begin the cycle so is that cycle will give me good gain and how can i use hcg with it and thanks again. and about the cycles i did it was along ago but i became really fat si idone adiet to get to this point

 

[hurricane]

i agree with the above bro.. u can put alot on natural still with that frame..no need to take steriods.. choice is yours of couse.. best of luck friend

 

[ALIN]

age:27
BF:19%

third cycle i am done with long cycle hate side-effect (water reten-acne-etc) so i will go with short cycle which will be like

test prop 100 eod week1-6
dbol 25-40 ed week 1-4
tren 75 eod week 1-4
winstrol 50 ed week 3-6

hcg for 10 days before the last prop shot 1500iu every 3 days untill the last shot of prop and then begin clomid after 4 days
200 1st day/100/50/50/50
advice please and would it be a good gain or not and my pic attached

This is a strong cycle so I would say YES,,,run the HCG during your cycle.