Is clomid alone as a PCT is enough to recover for this cycle?

[Elvia1023]

Clomid and nolva alone is NOT a complete nor efficient pct in any way... Read the article bro

I assume this is to me as everyone else as recommended that pct program? I recommended aromasin too. I have read your article and it has some useful info. But 100% I don't think all that is needed for pct. I could go into great detail why I think that supported by numerous studies and scientific data. Although quite frankly I can't be bothered plus it will most likely be deleted anyway.

There is a lot of misinformation on here and adding in various hormonal aids over long periods to help recovery from a basic cycle is completely unneeded and a waste of money. Moreover it will likely delay natural recovery. In very simple terms you want to help the HPTA and you want to prevent any estrogen rebound. But the biggest thing is you want to get off hormonal drugs asap so you can start recovering... not spend 2 months on various drugs.

 

[dylangemelli]

I assume this is to me as everyone else as recommended that pct program? I recommended aromasin too. I have read your article and it has some useful info. But 100% I don't think all that is needed for pct. I could go into great detail why I think that supported by numerous studies and scientific data. Although quite frankly I can't be bothered plus it will most likely be deleted anyway.

There is a lot of misinformation on here and adding in various hormonal aids over long periods to help recovery from a basic cycle is completely unneeded and a waste of money. Moreover it will likely delay natural recovery. In very simple terms you want to help the HPTA and you want to prevent any estrogen rebound. But the biggest thing is you want to get off hormonal drugs asap so you can start recovering... not spend 2 months on various drugs.

Here we go with conspiracy theories... you started with this... I just posted and explained why that is an optimal pct... do with it as you will... im not losing sleep over it... i am simply recommending the most optimal recovery that covers ALL the bases...

Really... you only worry about hpta and estrogen rebound... what about cortisol control? what about running methylated orals and all the pressure that is put on your internal organs? what about loss of strength, depression, lack of motivation, etc...?? these are all issues people deal with in pct... amongst MANY others... all of these need to be addressed and covered... you are correct that those two things are the most important but they are far from all that needs to be addressed in pct... short changing a pct is the absolute worst thing you can do...

 

[Elvia1023]

Here we go with conspiracy theories... you started with this... I just posted and explained why that is an optimal pct... do with it as you will... im not losing sleep over it... i am simply recommending the most optimal recovery that covers ALL the bases...

Really... you only worry about hpta and estrogen rebound... what about cortisol control? what about running methylated orals and all the pressure that is put on your internal organs? what about loss of strength, depression, lack of motivation, etc...?? these are all issues people deal with in pct... amongst MANY others... all of these need to be addressed and covered... you are correct that those two things are the most important but they are far from all that needs to be addressed in pct... short changing a pct is the absolute worst thing you can do...

I came back on here to add you write great articles so I am not taking anything away from you. I just think adding in so many different things for pct is OTT.

I see you wrote this. I am very easy going I just don't like it when my posts get deleted. Either promo posts about our products. Or posts were I say stuff like you don't need to triple stack SARMS or you don't need to use every product your company sells for a cycle. You be not know but quite a few of my posts get deleted and none were bad or in anyway bad mouthing your company etc. One about out LGD was deleted in a guys thread who posted his cycle. The guy actually seen what happened and pm'ed me and said he will use us cos of what goes on here.

You are spot on with your post about pct. I use other things post pct too but not hormonal drugs. I also use a variety of health supplements to ensure health is always at it's best and of course they change depending upon cycle and dosage (lipid, liver, kidney, blood, heart, prostate etc etc).

 

[dylangemelli]

I came back on here to add you write great articles so I am not taking anything away from you. I just think adding in so many different things for pct is OTT.

I see you wrote this. I am very easy going I just don't like it when my posts get deleted. Either promo posts about our products. Or posts were I say stuff like you don't need to triple stack SARMS or you don't need to use every product your company sells for a cycle. You be not know but quite a few of my posts get deleted and none were bad or in anyway bad mouthing your company etc. One about out LGD was deleted in a guys thread who posted his cycle. The guy actually seen what happened and pm'ed me and said he will use us cos of what goes on here.

You are spot on with your post about pct. I use other things post pct too but not hormonal drugs. I also use a variety of health supplements to ensure health is always at it's best and of course they change depending upon cycle and dosage (lipid, liver, kidney, blood, heart, prostate etc etc).

If any posts are deleted and i find out then i will handle it... The problem here is you taking this on the open forum... This a discussion that should be in private so it can be addressed properly... You can come to me at any time to get an issue resolved

 

[Elvia1023]

If any posts are deleted and i find out then i will handle it... The problem here is you taking this on the open forum... This a discussion that should be in private so it can be addressed properly... You can come to me at any time to get an issue resolved

Thanks

I agree it should be private so sorry about that. Honestly now I have got to the point were I don't want to write long posts cos I think it may be a waste of time if they are deleted. We all have different opinions and that's what a forum is about. I have spoken with one of the most intelligent guys on the planet in hormone recovery/replacement (pct etc) and that's were a lot of my opinions come from. Plus I have tried most pct's in the past as I like to experiment. PM coming your way

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks

I agree it should be private so sorry about that. Honestly now I have got to the point were I don't want to write long posts cos I think it may be a waste of time if they are deleted. We all have different opinions and that's what a forum is about. I have spoken with one of the most intelligent guys on the planet in hormone recovery/replacement (pct etc) and that's were a lot of my opinions come from. Plus I have tried most pct's in the past as I like to experiment. PM coming your way

Without different opinions and input there would be no forum... It would be communism and thats the last thing ill allow here... Were all good man