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Intermittent fasting and steroid use?
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You said it right brother. Different strokes for different folks. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Its all about figuring out what works for YOU!! You probably know better than anybody in this thread what its like to be criticized for your diet or training habits, but you and only you knows your body and what works. Not everyone has the same goals either. You and I like the aesthetic lean look, and are not trying to be pro bodybuilder size so we have a lot in common on goals even though our methods to get there may be different. I like to be that guy at the beach that males and females both envy and appreciate. Not the guy that girls look at and think "gross!"
I gave IF an honest shot. Its not for me. Or my life schedule.
That's the entire point bro... Its going to vary from person to person... All the facts that everyone said in here can definitely hold true... I know this, diet is one of the most difficult things to dial in and get correct... I keep track every single day of every fucking last calorie i take in and then i substitute things one at a time and find out exactly what has certain effects on me... That's how I found things that effect my shred in a positive or negative way, and just little things like that... Its a trial and error process and its much more difficult to dial in when shredding... When your just putting on weight, its not nearly as in depth and technical... Every little fucking thing matters, especially when trying to lose body fat and still gain muscle... Its going to be so different from person to person... I love figuring these things out though... You really posted some great info in this thread bro, as did Nelson... Its very informative and a great read for everyone...
yep thats why every individual has to find their own strategy and change things around when needed. no one on here can spoon feed you, or eat for you, or train for you.. etc.
if it was that easy then there wouldn't be a need for a million books on fitness out there with different opinions
if it was that easy then there wouldn't be a need for a million books on fitness out there with different opinions
lanier1974
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Nelson, they LIVED all the way to 35 in blatant defiance of incredible physical stresses; it's amazing they made it that many years. You think any of us would? They died of physical trauma, years of being pummeled by physical stress above anything we face today, and that's about it. Can you imagine if they caught a break from the weather and had constant game?
Oh, wait, that's the plains Indians (who only acquired horses when the Spanish lost them).....they ate almost nothing but red meat and lived into their 80', and were 6-12 INCHES TALLER, leaner, and stronger than the whites who had degraded their physiques with bread,sweets,corn,and some salted pork. Lakota etc lived in the same Paleolithic hunter gatherer style of 50000 years prior basically.
You better believe they intermittent fasted.
Dylan, you seem to have missed my point. I was making an example of the super potential of the human being in raw form. I was saying, look what we accomplished and against what odds we did it, with bare nutrition.
My point is we do not NEED frequent feedings nor modern supplements to conquer the word as lean, mean, muscular machines. Can whey and supplements take proper foundation and make us go HIGHER? Sure. Undisputed.
My point is we don't NEED THEM.
And I'm sure ill get flamed, but you all know the story about the Russians taking a pencil into space, while the Americans spent millions on a special ball point pen that would write in zero gravity.
Perhaps the west is over thinking "diet and training" too. Just food for thought, lol.
Oh, wait, that's the plains Indians (who only acquired horses when the Spanish lost them).....they ate almost nothing but red meat and lived into their 80', and were 6-12 INCHES TALLER, leaner, and stronger than the whites who had degraded their physiques with bread,sweets,corn,and some salted pork. Lakota etc lived in the same Paleolithic hunter gatherer style of 50000 years prior basically.
You better believe they intermittent fasted.
Dylan, you seem to have missed my point. I was making an example of the super potential of the human being in raw form. I was saying, look what we accomplished and against what odds we did it, with bare nutrition.
My point is we do not NEED frequent feedings nor modern supplements to conquer the word as lean, mean, muscular machines. Can whey and supplements take proper foundation and make us go HIGHER? Sure. Undisputed.
My point is we don't NEED THEM.
And I'm sure ill get flamed, but you all know the story about the Russians taking a pencil into space, while the Americans spent millions on a special ball point pen that would write in zero gravity.
Perhaps the west is over thinking "diet and training" too. Just food for thought, lol.
Here's the big problem with your statement... Do you realize how many things we "don't need"... That's not what this forum is all about... We are not here to discuss what to do to accomplish a little man... Everyone here is trying to enhance everything they do and get THE MOST OUT OF IT... Not hear a comment about fucking cavemen who got by with nothing... Yes, what they did was great and they had very little but THAT HAS NO POINT TO THIS THREAD OR ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE... Its just a waste of a comment and added things that are not pertinent to this discussion... This thread is full of valuable information for maximizing potential... Its not a thread to talk about how you don't need this or that because cave men didn't have it... We are trying to teach people things, not take steps backward or theorize what could be done with nothing... Fuck, how do you even know what they did back then? Its all theory anyway... It has no room in this discussion... If you don't like supplements, then that's one thing but the comparison is ridiculous...
