Interesting facts (truth)coming out about Trayvon

[redsamurai]

Your state does not have SYG then. The whole point of SYG is that theres no duty to retreat

"if" you haven't provoked the altercation in some way I'm betting is the language homie. Otherwise what a clusterfuck SYG would be. SYG would completely and utterly undermine rational society if that were the case. I mean just think of the possibilities of abuse. You could go after a dude you don't like with a bat, and when he picks up something similiar you drop the bat and immediately draw and fire on him. C'mon dude. You're in Cali right dave? Go look at your CCW and see if it doesn't have the same language. And you can see where they already hold armed citizens to higher standards when it comes to walking into an establishment with a liquor liscense.

 

[WoodyO]

Here's all 20 pages of the San Diego CCW application:

http://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw_app.pdf

Here's the more important stuff from page 7:

While exercising the privileges granted to the licensee under the terms of this license, the licensee
shall not, when carrying a concealed weapon:
• Consume any alcoholic beverage.
• Be in a place having a primary purpose of dispensing alcoholic beverages for on-site
consumption.
• Be under the influence of any medication or drug, whether prescribed or not.
• Refuse to show the license or surrender the concealed weapon to any peace officer upon
demand.
• Impede any peace officer in the performance of his/her duties.
• Present himself/herself as a peace officer to any person unless he/she is, in fact, a peace
officer as defined by California law.
• Unjustifiably display a concealed weapon.
• Carry a concealed weapon not listed on the permit.
• Carry a concealed weapon at times or circumstances other than those specified in the permit.

 

[mrplunkey]

it's grey area that's already playing out in other cases. But in cases where the armed person was found to provoke the altercation the sentencing guidelines are tougher in alot of states if the dude was armed at the time. There is language in the permits that speaks of provoking altercations...exactly how that is interpreted and applied is what's being tested in courts. That's why this case will be interesting if it comes out zimmerman did indeed try to act like a LEO.

Horse shit.

A CCW does not carry an additional duty to avoid altercation beyond a citizen's ordinary obligations.

 

[-SD-]

"if" you haven't provoked the altercation in some way I'm betting is the language homie. Otherwise what a clusterfuck SYG would be. SYG would completely and utterly undermine rational society if that were the case. I mean just think of the possibilities of abuse. You could go after a dude you don't like with a bat, and when he picks up something similiar you drop the bat and immediately draw and fire on him. C'mon dude. You're in Cali right dave? Go look at your CCW and see if it doesn't have the same language. And you can see where they already hold armed citizens to higher standards when it comes to walking into an establishment with a liquor liscense.

Im in Texas and already posted my states CHL law here. Theres nothing different when armed or unarmed. No one can provoke a fight then claim self defense, armed or unarmed doesnt matter.

 

[mrplunkey]

Im in Texas and already posted my states CHL law here. Theres nothing different when armed or unarmed. No one can provoke a fight then claim self defense, armed or unarmed doesnt matter.

I don't think he understands that CHL and SYG are to totally, separate, unlinked, non-related, non-dependent issues.

 

[WoodyO]

The Ohio CCW application:

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/ConcealedCarryApplicationPDF

 

[mrplunkey]

The Ohio CCW application:

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/ConcealedCarryApplicationPDF

What what what???

Where's the section that says having a CCW permit changes everything??????

All it says is:

(1) I have read the publication that explains Ohio firearms laws, provides instruction in dispute resolution and explains the Ohio laws related to that matter, and provides information regarding aspects of the use of deadly force with a firearm, and I am knowledgeable of the provisions of those laws and of the information on those matters.

I smell shenanigans! Could the Zionists be involved in this plot?

 

[WoodyO]

According to the Brady Campaign, Ohio has some of the weakest gun laws in the nation, scoring 7/100:

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

I don't think the state with some of the most relaxed gun laws in the nation would have too much extra language about added responsibilities that come with a CCW. Hell, CA is the most unfriendly state for gun owners. I already posted the 20 page application that I had to fill out, and even us Californians don't have any extra responsibilities like those mentioned earlier.

 

[mrplunkey]

According to the Brady Campaign, Ohio has some of the weakest gun laws in the nation, scoring 7/100:

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

I don't think the state with some of the most relaxed gun laws in the nation would have too much extra language about added responsibilities that come with a CCW. Hell, CA is the most unfriendly state for gun owners. I already posted the 20 page application that I had to fill out, and even us Californians don't have any extra responsibilities like those mentioned earlier.

That's why I threw the bullshit flag on him several pages and days ago.

 

[redsamurai]

woody, dude you just posted the Ohio application. Go look at the actual CCW permit rules, should be at the same AG site for ohio. Everything i posted was cut directly from there dude.

According to the Brady Campaign, Ohio has some of the weakest gun laws in the nation, scoring 7/100:

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

I don't think the state with some of the most relaxed gun laws in the nation would have too much extra language about added responsibilities that come with a CCW. Hell, CA is the most unfriendly state for gun owners. I already posted the 20 page application that I had to fill out, and even us Californians don't have any extra responsibilities like those mentioned earlier.