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bigorse
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Maybe time for some slin for the both of us
Maybe time for some slin for the both of us
SwollenMember_18
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Yeah bro! Been puttin in some research lately on a good starting protocol, pretty much figure I might as well. I told myself I wouldn't mess with slin till I hit 220 fairly lean and that's where I'm at right now so def a tempting vice. Need a new barrier breaker hahaha ran thru all the AAS now, cept high dose deca. But I'd rather hit some peptides and just go gorilla on some fools.
You'll have to let me know how the thyroid treats ya on offseason cals. Definately interested in some T3 in the near future as well.
You'll have to let me know how the thyroid treats ya on offseason cals. Definately interested in some T3 in the near future as well.
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I used it for a few weeks at the end of last cycle and it treated me well but finding your dose during the off season is hard. You want to be just above natural levels and it works great, anymore and its impossible to bulk. 100mcg of pharm t4 was good last time im at 150mcg of pharm t4 this time but most patients seem to think this brand is slightly weaker hence the higher dose
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I really don't see any real reason to run any thyroid stims in off season unless you have a fucked up thyroid and can confirm that through tests. Some argue of its benefits when bulking but to me if your over all goal is to obtain as much muscle as possible then adding t3 in the mix is just extra stress your body doesn't nessescarily need. And considering it's the one fat burner that eats muscle when taken to much, which can easily be done it's just risky and something I don't think you need to add in even if your goal is to stay lean.
With the dosages of tren you have that should be plenty to keep you in a well condition, just my two cents
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Ive read both sides of the spectrum as far as off season thyroid, plan on using it half of the cycle and comparing results to see exactly how i respond to it. Esp read thyroid is good with tren as tren can lower endogenous tsh levels but at this stage its a bit of trial and error. Will let you know how it goes, condition isnt the reason im using it either purely as another muscle builder
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217lbs upon waking this morning, bodyfat looks the same
SwollenMember_18
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Yeeee buddy! I was sittin 223.3 today after breakfast though. Still 2 weeks of drol to go, pretty sure Ima walk my ass into the pharmacy tomorrow and claim diabetes and grab some humalog lol. Figure I might as well utilize all these mu'fukkin carbohydrates to their full potential while I can. Hoping to break 230 by the time I drop the drol. Definately holdin some water though.
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Who cares about a little water! Get fucking massive!
I bumped everything again, not much but a little
800 test e ew (switching to sust now)
800eq ew
420 tren e ew
30 tren a daily
May not bump my tren e up when i drop the a and keep tren fairly low but but aromataising gear slightly more, undecided. Depending on bloods and cardiovascular review i may bump both
bp is staying around 115/65 and i feel healthier than i did last cycle which i used half the gear...Slin will probably be added at some stage, maybe when i drop tren a.
Ps. I got in a relationship a few months ago so i kept things a hell of a lot more conservative cal consumption wise but im at the point now where im comfortable to start blowing up. Not going to get fat though...
SwollenMember_18
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Who cares about a little water! Get fucking massive!
I bumped everything again, not much but a little
800 test e ew (switching to sust now)
800eq ew
420 tren e ew
30 tren a daily
May not bump my tren e up when i drop the a and keep tren fairly low but but aromataising gear slightly more, undecided. Depending on bloods and cardiovascular review i may bump both
Slin will probably be added at some stage, maybe when i drop tren a.
Ps. I got in a relationship a few months ago so i kept things a hell of a lot more conservative cal consumption wise but im at the point now where im comfortable to start blowing up. Not going to get fat though...
Bahaha! No doubt bro! Love looking all full and pumped all the time anyways... Not to mention food is my true love.
Those doses sound good man, i feel like my test just finally hit peak levels this week at a gram. Definately noticeable feel when I'm training.
And yeah I feel like I got another good 2-3 months of solid grow time before I feel to fat. then I'm gunna recomp out I think. Prolly not do a full cut until I hit a clean 250 in a year or 2 lol. No point in being peeled under like 225-230 if you actually wanna make something of yourself in the sport IMO especially at my height.
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Very true. Strategic diets to increase insulin sensitivity can be a good plan to increase gains in the off season and increase appetite. I like to do no carb stints from time to time.
I may get my test up to a gram and same with eq, tren wont go any higher than 600 though, 240 in 12 weeks would be the goal
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I'll get a full blood panel and an ecg done in the next 2-3 weeks
Love this thread. Just a good place to be. I also bumped doses and the look like this now
900mg sust
750mg EQ (stayed the same)
750mg tri tren (I feel is underdosed due to it being my first run of tren ever and I see little result at the 400-500 range)
I will be adding winny in a few more weeks. Maybe another 4 and I'll throw it in.
900mg sust
750mg EQ (stayed the same)
750mg tri tren (I feel is underdosed due to it being my first run of tren ever and I see little result at the 400-500 range)
I will be adding winny in a few more weeks. Maybe another 4 and I'll throw it in.
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Thats what im talking about! My test will probably get close to a gram by the end of the cycle if bloods allow it. This off season is all out for me, i need to make up for time lost and within certain health limitations i am willing to do what ever it takes...
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Oh and im back training a fair bit with my old training partner who i got to 230 with. Dont get me wrong i train balls to the wall by myself and can still move weight but its much better knowing you have a spot and also having someone to compete with, we are very similar in strength.
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bigorse
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You're still youngish (26/27 right?) But starting to get to an age where gh and slin could be a use, ever crossed your mind for the near future?
27. Those thoughts have crossed my mind. But the funds won't be there for that for quite some time unfortunately. Unless I win a lottery that I don't play lol. I definitely need a few years more of knowledge and being able to diet 100% before throwing slin in the mix.
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Fair enough man, keep researching this stuff, more debate on hoe to use it correctly than any other PED
SwollenMember_18
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I may be biting the bullet and going in today to grab some!
I'm pretty sure I can just walk into any place and get it without a script... Probably start super low and see how she goes.
It's the only PED that makes me nervous though so I wanna make sure I do every thing perfectly
No kidding. A scary substance for me.
You can walk into a pharmacy and get without a script?
SwollenMember_18
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Yeah I think in Canada we can just roll in and get humalog or humalin-R without a script... From what I've read that's the message I get. I'm gunna make a few phone calls first though to avoid any extra hastle haha. Fukkin hate dealing with people sometimes face to face over this type of stuff
Oh Canada. That's crazy! Yea. Definitely make a few phone calls to a couple of places and pitch the idea. I can't even get needles at my local pharmacy without a Rx.
kushkounty
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I like in canada and was just wonderin were u able to get the Humalog no script?
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Lol you cant get any slin otc here. All rx on a script
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Probs part of the reason we have 1 decent pro in our country, all slin is illegal, gear prices are double that in the states, peptides are crap and expensive, research chem sights are shit and hgh is fucking retarted, to run gh at 4iu a day for 6 months it would cost me like 8-12 grand depending on pharm brand and i have yet to see generic gh in Australian dealers lists
j_oel
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I'm gonna stick around in this one too cause my one keeps hijacked for the wrong reasons lol. Thought I'd add in my current situation
Tarted a new cycle today. Switching from 375mgs of test e with 400mgs of tren e to 625mgs of test e with 100mgs of NPP eod. Was gonna add in NPP earlier with the tren but didn't wanna run to nandrolone so together so waisted out. Been on my last cycle for 9 weeks and out on 10lbs of clean mass and cut 4 lbs of fat (Dex scan results) even in a 1300 cal surplus I've dropped fat. I'm way harder but didn't get that initial "bulk" I wanted from tren. My body just wanted to get lean on the stuff. Tough I look leaner and bigger from 220lbs 10 weeks ago it's time to up the aromatising drugs slightly and chuck in a quick bulked. Never used NPP before so I'm excited. Will run this for the next 8-10 weeks and hopefully I will be about 245lbs.
SwollenMember_18
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Looks good bro, fuck I keep hearing such great things about NPP... I want to drop my tren and add It as well, but I just don't want to run a short ester atm. Plus I still have like 3 vials of tren e to finish off. To broke for that shit goddamnit
Hoping to hit 230 pounds in the next 2 weeks before I drop my drol, then I'll do a little recomp just to tighten things up a bit but hopefully maintain my weight or even gain a couple slow extra pounds.
I have never ran deca before, would love to be 220-230 around 10% by September then 16-20 weeks of deca and just end up a monnnnnster hahaha. Test/deca/dbol/slin would be ideal for my winter blast.
Everyone on this thread is just killin it, it's fucking awesome and motivating as hell!!! Keep grindin' boys!!!
j_oel
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Looks good bro, fuck I keep hearing such great things about NPP... I want to drop my tren and add It as well, but I just don't want to run a short ester atm. Plus I still have like 3 vials of tren e to finish off. To broke for that shit goddamnit
Hoping to hit 230 pounds in the next 2 weeks before I drop my drol, then I'll do a little recomp just to tighten things up a bit but hopefully maintain my weight or even gain a couple slow extra pounds.
I have never ran deca before, would love to be 220-230 around 10% by September then 16-20 weeks of deca and just end up a monnnnnster hahaha. Test/deca/dbol/slin would be ideal for my winter blast.
Everyone on this thread is just killin it, it's fucking awesome and motivating as hell!!! Keep grindin' boys!!!
I've seen people blow up on NPP without the extra nasty bloated look! I've platued alitlte in weight though I've leaned put and shaped up heaps it's not my goal at all. I've always had a fast metabolism so the shit just doesn't bulk well for me, I just burn everything on it cause it ramps your metabolism up so much. The stuff works as promised though.
Test deca dbol slin sounds craaaazzzzy ahahahah. My dosages are relatively low right now as I'm responding well to it. Though I've platued lately it's why I've decided to up my androgen drugs and switch to NPP.
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How the fuck do endurance runners perform on eq? Played a game of aussie rules today and the pumps were legit painful as hell. Calfs and back were on fire.
Could be the tren too
Could be the tren too
SwollenMember_18
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Yeah that's weird, when I ran EQ inwas cardio KING!!! Could literally rock out 45 min of high pace steady state like it was nothinnnnnn'
Mind you it was like eliptical or stepper or bike so no like stops and starts and pretty easy on the legs.
Probably a combo of the 2, I've never ran EQ while on tren so I donno how that goes. But I've never had more energy and been able to train/cardio longer and harder than when I was runnin EQ, that shit was the bomb for endurance for me
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Yeah i can sit on a bike for ever but running and changing directions killed me
SwollenMember_18
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Yeah I can see that impact making a huge difference... I'll tell ya what tho hahaha goddamn anadrol makes me the laziest waste of a human ever. And cardio = pretty much useless from the pumps and lethargy
Once I start my day I have to get all my commitments done constantly back to back to back cuz if I take a break and sit down or lay down, it's game over haha. Once those eyes and legs get a break, I'm lamped out for the night noooo doubt about it! Drol + tren = life consuming stack hahaha
Once I start my day I have to get all my commitments done constantly back to back to back cuz if I take a break and sit down or lay down, it's game over haha. Once those eyes and legs get a break, I'm lamped out for the night noooo doubt about it! Drol + tren = life consuming stack hahaha
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Yeah I can see that impact making a huge difference... I'll tell ya what tho hahaha goddamn anadrol makes me the laziest waste of a human ever. And cardio = pretty much useless from the pumps and lethargy
Once I start my day I have to get all my commitments done constantly back to back to back cuz if I take a break and sit down or lay down, it's game over haha. Once those eyes and legs get a break, I'm lamped out for the night noooo doubt about it! Drol + tren = life consuming stack hahaha
I bet man!
Lol jumped on the scales this pm and i was 100.7kg (222lbs) didnt think id been gaining any weight
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4am shoulders and bis smashed because it was a busy fucking day... 222lbs probably wake up like 218
SwollenMember_18
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Man I'm the same way with tren bro, I need to stack an oral ontop to really get a bang out of it. I can usually tip the scale a bit but I don't get the crazy strength increase that some people say they experience.
It just makes me look freaky vascular and really brings out the seperation in my muscles and straiations. I think it's really over-hyped by some people. Awesome drug but not at all the magic gold oil that bro's claim....
I have been seeing much better gains with only 400 tren and a gram of test than I did with almost a gram of tren and only 400 test. Play around till you find your sweet spot and you'll know when you hit it.
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Thick as a brick son! Man arms are hard to make grow hahaha I've put on like 40 pounds this year almost and I swear my arms have only grown like an inch
but then again I'm my worst critic and I get asked if I'm on gear almost everyday by somebody at the gym who doesn't know me hahaha so who knows. Maybe it's just harder to tell when the rest of your body is growing as well. Time to bring out the measuring tape I think. Get the mind games out of it.
Interesting. I've got some good tren a amps that will be in my next run. So I'll compare.
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Thick as a brick son! Man arms are hard to make grow hahaha I've put on like 40 pounds this year almost and I swear my arms have only grown like an inch
Time to bring out the measuring tape I think. Get the mind games out of it.
Yeah my arms suck too, them and my chest always out of proportion to the rest of my body. SEO Arent out of the question!
Hmm saiyan. Too high of an ai dose? I don't know, my weight isnt moving a tonne but i am atleast getting stronger
SwollenMember_18
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What are your cals at right now big?
I fee like I need to bump mine a bit, but I'm in such a huge surplus already hahaha like all I do is train and I'm pretty much sedentary the rest of the day. But I'm still barrrrreely gaining on 4000ish. I mean now that I'm 220+ depending on fluctuations, I don't mind if I'm just recomping a bit but I would rather add an extra 10 pounds if I can
I fee like I need to bump mine a bit, but I'm in such a huge surplus already hahaha like all I do is train and I'm pretty much sedentary the rest of the day. But I'm still barrrrreely gaining on 4000ish. I mean now that I'm 220+ depending on fluctuations, I don't mind if I'm just recomping a bit but I would rather add an extra 10 pounds if I can
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A guess would be somewhere between 5000-6000
SwollenMember_18
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Yeah yeah, I'm gunna give it an extra 3-500 for the next week see how she goes.
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Defs conservative! I think i may have to up my dex to 0.5ed. 0.25ed and im getting sensitive nipples
SwollenMember_18
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Yeah .5 Ed is perfect for me right now, no dry joints, keeping water off fairly well (drol still playin it's part in that), no nipple probs, just overall good feeling and that's with 1G test and no other aromatising compounds. Me thinks that's the
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Yeah .5 Ed is perfect for me right now, no dry joints, keeping water off fairly well (drol still playin it's part in that), no nipple probs, just overall good feeling and that's with 1G test and no other aromatising compounds. Me thinks that's the
Yeah 750ish test and 800 eq which hardly aromataises. Added caber in too because i didn't have any high e symptoms other than slightly sensitive nips. Doing 0.25 e3d of caber
SwollenMember_18
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Yeah I am gunna run caber next time I blast tren, vit B6 does a pretty solid job for me though especially on low doses. I added it in when my tren was really high, and I noticed my nips were gettin puffy and sensitive and there was no way it was the test, 600mg vit B6 Ed for about 2 weeks and it was gone. But that's ghetto and caber has mad other benefits anyways
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Read about caber causing certaim heart issues if b6 works that would be the best route. Higher doses will obvs need caber though
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By far my biggest blast ever and bp is staying good on a good diet and health supps...
Also woke up 219, went to bed 223 last night
Also woke up 219, went to bed 223 last night
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223lbs, a bit watery at night, i wake up much tighter and drier.
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Lol, always though i was 5' 8. Donated blood today and my official height is 5'6.5 and my weight was 102.5kg (226lbs)
and my weight was 102.5kg (226lbs)
j_oel
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Lol, always though i was 5' 8. Donated blood today and my official height is 5'6.5
Do you have a firm bone structure? That's a very heavy weight for 5 6
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I dont even know, i have a fairly small waiste and joints, I dont know how I hold so much weight.
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Just thought I'd leave this here boys.... Hahahaha
This is literally on a big plaque posted in the middle of the new gym I'm going to LOL, got a good kick out of it the other day.
Just thought I'd leave this here boys.... Hahahaha
This is literally on a big plaque posted in the middle of the new gym I'm going to LOL, got a good kick out of it the other day.
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Just thought I'd leave this here boys.... Hahahaha
This is literally on a big plaque posted in the middle of the new gym I'm going to LOL, got a good kick out of it the other day.
Joel the lucky guy still got to 6 foot.
I have always been short, use to lie and say i was like 5'9 on scouting reports when i was playing baseball when i was like 5' 6
SwollenMember_18
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Joel the lucky guy still got to 6 foot.
I have always been short, use to lie and say i was like 5'9 on scouting reports when i was playing baseball when i was like 5' 6
Bahaha thatta boy, I wish I had made it to 6' lol got the short end of the stick and only made it to 5'11
I used to bullshit my stats in hockey cuz I was such a lightweight when I played junior I was still sittin like 165-170... I was carded in at 6' 185 haha
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I was content with my 5' 8 but i guess i didnt even get that
SwollenMember_18
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Bahaha fuck bro, the positive for ou at least is when you get big and thick you look huggggggeee at your height... I gotta be a fuxking mutant gorilla to look massive at my height haha. Not to mention I think I have crazy dense muscle fibers or some shit, cuz it takes like 15-20 pounds for me to see noticeable visual change and thickness. But goddamnit this is the grind!!! We gon make it homie!!
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Im the same, my stats are the best they have been but i dont look as big as i was and i defs dont look 225 at 5'7
j_oel
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There's pros and cons to being 6ft lol, it's harder to add mass due to the fact your muscles are longer and getting that bulky look isn't as easy as you 5ft 6 fellas, but when you do oh man it's something else. I've been the same height since I was 14, and gone from 56kg to 104.8kg in 3 years arms have been hardest part of body to develop as they're super long, but now them being almost 18inchs they are my one of my better body parts. I think 6ft would be the limit for bodybuilding though, any taller unless you have freaky structure just won't look good when you diet down
arms have been hardest part of body to develop as they're super long, but now them being almost 18inchs they are my one of my better body parts. I think 6ft would be the limit for bodybuilding though, any taller unless you have freaky structure just won't look good when you diet down
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And I here's the comparison of 3 years difference
And I here's the comparison of 3 years difference
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Looking wicked man
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