Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Need to know all i can about injectable winstrol, used search but only got things about the tablets, need to know what it does mainly, cuts me up, just makes me huge, the basics really, im a newbie so please be gentle. Im looking forward to getting cut up, i like to have a lil mass but mainly just cut up, ive got a big frame bein 6'2 224lb, let me know
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liquidmuscle
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50mgs eod or ed depends on what kind of strol you get and how much you can afford
Sinistar
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first off do some reseach before doing shit ok? unless you want tits, which i gaurantee youll get.
saying hat, ill tell you that it would be a good idea to add some deca to that if your set on taking it. i understand winny dries the joints out, and deca will lube them back up. otherwise, youll be creaky and stiff, so ive head.
saying hat, ill tell you that it would be a good idea to add some deca to that if your set on taking it. i understand winny dries the joints out, and deca will lube them back up. otherwise, youll be creaky and stiff, so ive head.
Lord scar,
To answer your question injectable winstrol works the same way as oral winstrol. Injection is just a different method of administration. While it can be used effectively for either bulking or cutting, it is often favored for cutting because it does not aromatize into estrogen so side effects like bloat, fat gain and gyno are not issues. You will not get huge gains from it but it will do wonders as far as helping you to harden up and maintain mass and strength while cutting.
I would not recommend deca for cutting. Some can do it, many cannot. Deca often causes a bit of water retention even at small doses. It does for me to such an extent that I can't even use it for bulking unless I want that coveted moon face look. A better choice for quality muscle that will keep you looking good is Equipoise. Run EQ at 400mg/week along with winstrol at 50mg/day. Add a token amount of test-say 250mg cypionate or enanthate and you will have a very nice cutter. I would start the EQ and test and run it for 10 weeks, wait two or three weeks and add the winstrol. Run it for seven or eight weeks. Wait two more weeks and start clomid therapy. HCG is optional but you could start it 10 days before clomid running 1000iu's/day for 10 days to get the boys prepared to start producing again.
Hope that helps.
Jet
To answer your question injectable winstrol works the same way as oral winstrol. Injection is just a different method of administration. While it can be used effectively for either bulking or cutting, it is often favored for cutting because it does not aromatize into estrogen so side effects like bloat, fat gain and gyno are not issues. You will not get huge gains from it but it will do wonders as far as helping you to harden up and maintain mass and strength while cutting.
I would not recommend deca for cutting. Some can do it, many cannot. Deca often causes a bit of water retention even at small doses. It does for me to such an extent that I can't even use it for bulking unless I want that coveted moon face look. A better choice for quality muscle that will keep you looking good is Equipoise. Run EQ at 400mg/week along with winstrol at 50mg/day. Add a token amount of test-say 250mg cypionate or enanthate and you will have a very nice cutter. I would start the EQ and test and run it for 10 weeks, wait two or three weeks and add the winstrol. Run it for seven or eight weeks. Wait two more weeks and start clomid therapy. HCG is optional but you could start it 10 days before clomid running 1000iu's/day for 10 days to get the boys prepared to start producing again.
Hope that helps.
Jet
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gilly6993
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Sinistar said:
....so he'll get tits off of winstrol?.,...that's a new one.....maybe you're the one that should do some research.....everyone is affected differently by winny.....I was on 100 ED up to 200-300 ED for a week with no joint problems.....wasn't taking any deca either......
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cbeaks
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gilly6993 said:
did you see much better results with the higher mgs?
lord_scar...I have used winny many of times...I have never gotten bitch tits toi oppose what Mr. Sintar said, it got e very hard and leaned me up pretty good while cutting and keep my strength up there...if you don't want to take deca with it what i recomend what I did was take glucosamine with chrondrotin which is a cartliadge and joint supporter *spelling, but they helped me out while on it..i did 50mg eod the firs tweek, 100kmg eod the second till fourth week and last two weks back down to 50 mg eod..just my opinion...
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PRAETORIAN
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RE: Scar
Scar if u are truly interested in cutting up, then you might want to do some research on finding a precontest type diet that you can stick to. Whether you choose to use any anabolic or testosterone while dieting is your choice. The drug itself will not "cut" you up....the DIET will! Your choice of ergogenic aid "anabolic" will determine the overall amount of mass you retain and the overall cosmetic appearance of your physique. Winstrol being a DHT derivative will cosmetically harden your physique as long as your bodyfat % is low enough that you can distinguish this. Some ideal anabolic used precontest to harden up and maintain mass while dieting include tren 75-100 mg EOD, winstrol depot 50 mg ED, primobolan depot 200-400 mg/week, and EQ 300-600 mg/week. These are probably the most common anabolics used while dieting and all do not aromatize which makes for an extremely hard look. The EQ is an exception as it an aromatize very slightly but most do not have a problem with it. If you are considering adding test to the cycle...depending on your body you may retain water and require an anti e..such as arimidex...but that is allvery individualistic..i myself will retain water even on prop at 50 mg EOD.
And NO winstrol will NOT give you gyno! As Jet says you will not see huge gains but some strength is common as well as cosmetic changes. And of course as per Jet your post cycle clomid et al!
One of my fave precontest stacks which works great is tren 100 mg EOD plus winstrol depot 50 mg ED plus primobolan depot 200 mg /week...add in glucosamine for the joints and you are set!
One obvious difference between Winstrol Depot and other injectables is that it is not esterified, being sold as aqueous stanozolol suspension. (It should not be called water-soluble: virtually none of it is dissolved in the water.) This means that it does not have a classical half-life, where at time x the level is ½ the starting level, at time 2 x the level is ¼, at time 3 x the level is 1/8, etc. Instead, the microcrystals slowly dissolve, and when they have all dissolved levels of the drug then fall very rapidly.
For veterinary application, Upjohn claims that once-weekly doses supply constant levels. I am not sure if that is actually true or not – it might be true in terms of being clinically practical but not literally true. If true, then it may be that the observation of bodybuilders that frequent dosing is required has more to do with a significant dose being required, e.g. 350 mg/week, rather than an actual need for it to be injected daily. Unfortunately bodybuilders often make illogical comparisons, and will conclude that daily injections are needed, since a once a week injection of 50 mg did not do the job! Well, of course it didn’t: the dose was too low. For a future article, some urinalysis testing may be performed to come up with some more specific information on this matter, since it is of interest to many.
Peace!
Scar if u are truly interested in cutting up, then you might want to do some research on finding a precontest type diet that you can stick to. Whether you choose to use any anabolic or testosterone while dieting is your choice. The drug itself will not "cut" you up....the DIET will! Your choice of ergogenic aid "anabolic" will determine the overall amount of mass you retain and the overall cosmetic appearance of your physique. Winstrol being a DHT derivative will cosmetically harden your physique as long as your bodyfat % is low enough that you can distinguish this. Some ideal anabolic used precontest to harden up and maintain mass while dieting include tren 75-100 mg EOD, winstrol depot 50 mg ED, primobolan depot 200-400 mg/week, and EQ 300-600 mg/week. These are probably the most common anabolics used while dieting and all do not aromatize which makes for an extremely hard look. The EQ is an exception as it an aromatize very slightly but most do not have a problem with it. If you are considering adding test to the cycle...depending on your body you may retain water and require an anti e..such as arimidex...but that is allvery individualistic..i myself will retain water even on prop at 50 mg EOD.
And NO winstrol will NOT give you gyno! As Jet says you will not see huge gains but some strength is common as well as cosmetic changes. And of course as per Jet your post cycle clomid et al!
One of my fave precontest stacks which works great is tren 100 mg EOD plus winstrol depot 50 mg ED plus primobolan depot 200 mg /week...add in glucosamine for the joints and you are set!
One obvious difference between Winstrol Depot and other injectables is that it is not esterified, being sold as aqueous stanozolol suspension. (It should not be called water-soluble: virtually none of it is dissolved in the water.) This means that it does not have a classical half-life, where at time x the level is ½ the starting level, at time 2 x the level is ¼, at time 3 x the level is 1/8, etc. Instead, the microcrystals slowly dissolve, and when they have all dissolved levels of the drug then fall very rapidly.
For veterinary application, Upjohn claims that once-weekly doses supply constant levels. I am not sure if that is actually true or not – it might be true in terms of being clinically practical but not literally true. If true, then it may be that the observation of bodybuilders that frequent dosing is required has more to do with a significant dose being required, e.g. 350 mg/week, rather than an actual need for it to be injected daily. Unfortunately bodybuilders often make illogical comparisons, and will conclude that daily injections are needed, since a once a week injection of 50 mg did not do the job! Well, of course it didn’t: the dose was too low. For a future article, some urinalysis testing may be performed to come up with some more specific information on this matter, since it is of interest to many.
Peace!
NorCalBdyBldr
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lord_scar said: "Need to know all i can about injectable winstrol, used search but only got things about the tablets, need to know what it does mainly, cuts me up, just makes me huge, the basics really, im a newbie so please be gentle. Im looking forward to getting cut up, i like to have a lil mass but mainly just cut up, ive got a big frame bein 6'2 224lb, let me know"
Winstrol tabs and injectible are exactly the same. The same dose in tablets will yield the same results as the equal dose in the injectible. Like others have mentioned, winny will harden you out but that will only work if your body fat is low enough to show this. It will also help you lose some bodyfat but I wouldn't rely on it to do the whole job as nothing will work as well as a clean diet IMO.
Personally, I found winny injections caused a rather significatn amount of swelling at the injection site which is not the experience that I have had with other injectibles. This may have been because the winny was not sterile, I don't know. This was just my experience.
If you are trying to lean out without adding more lean mass, there are other "aids" that can be used, like Clenbuterol, ECA stack, etc. that are not injectible or schedule III. These, of course will only work along with a good "clean" diet.
It should be pointed out that all anabolic steroids will add at least some muscle given proper caloric intake and protein intake althought they can also lean you out somewhat at the same time. Many will cause you to retain water so you get a "bloated" look while on cycle. Some are known to help cut fat while adding muscle more so than others and that fact is used in putting together cycles for precontest in order to cut to as lean and hard as possible along with an appropriate diet to facilitate this. So I guess it depends on what exactly you are trying to do.
Hope this helps.
Winstrol tabs and injectible are exactly the same. The same dose in tablets will yield the same results as the equal dose in the injectible. Like others have mentioned, winny will harden you out but that will only work if your body fat is low enough to show this. It will also help you lose some bodyfat but I wouldn't rely on it to do the whole job as nothing will work as well as a clean diet IMO.
Personally, I found winny injections caused a rather significatn amount of swelling at the injection site which is not the experience that I have had with other injectibles. This may have been because the winny was not sterile, I don't know. This was just my experience.
If you are trying to lean out without adding more lean mass, there are other "aids" that can be used, like Clenbuterol, ECA stack, etc. that are not injectible or schedule III. These, of course will only work along with a good "clean" diet.
It should be pointed out that all anabolic steroids will add at least some muscle given proper caloric intake and protein intake althought they can also lean you out somewhat at the same time. Many will cause you to retain water so you get a "bloated" look while on cycle. Some are known to help cut fat while adding muscle more so than others and that fact is used in putting together cycles for precontest in order to cut to as lean and hard as possible along with an appropriate diet to facilitate this. So I guess it depends on what exactly you are trying to do.
Hope this helps.
Prop, fina, winny is one of the best there is. I also like to throw in Proviron. I thought fina might be harsh for a newer user and so recommended EQ. It really fucked with me the first time I did it. I had a real short fuse until I learned to control its effects. Also, the daily injections can be a drag. But yeah, that combo starts to work almost immediately and can facilitate dramatic body composition changes.
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cbeaks
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I didn't think about it being related to Winstrol at the time but I was taking 50mg/day for two weeks and then 100mg/day for another two weeks before a show I won a few years ago and I was as dry as a bone. When I would hit my poses you could hear most of the joints in my body crack like when you crack your knuckles. - cbeaks
Lord Scar, you've got great advice here--whether its jet, norcal, or praetorian. to answer your question directly it increases blood volume yet dramatically hardens the muscles without a significant gain in muscle mass. its not gonna burn fat, in fact, i've been hard as hell b4 w/ a bit of a pot belly when i wasnt watching my diet so much (as well as cardio). imo, its the best aas out there, but it wont do all the work for you.
THANKS GUYS
I didn't check my post for a few weeks for the rude post by Mr. Sintar, i usually dont come back to a post if peps are gonna be dick's about things, you guys have really been helpful, my order was seized by customs so i never got my winny, ive been liftin though anyhow, i try my best to stay on the high protein diet with not as many carbs but i like to cheat, as for as the moderator who asked about my age im 18 be 19 next month, ive been doin lots of research and not done any roids, i will continue to do so until i am confident in my decision of what to take, ill stick around the boards now, you guys have been alot of help to me and i appreciate it greatly
I didn't check my post for a few weeks for the rude post by Mr. Sintar, i usually dont come back to a post if peps are gonna be dick's about things, you guys have really been helpful, my order was seized by customs so i never got my winny, ive been liftin though anyhow, i try my best to stay on the high protein diet with not as many carbs but i like to cheat, as for as the moderator who asked about my age im 18 be 19 next month, ive been doin lots of research and not done any roids, i will continue to do so until i am confident in my decision of what to take, ill stick around the boards now, you guys have been alot of help to me and i appreciate it greatly
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