importance of test

[strngthnhonor]

im wondering how important is test with a fina cycle. i've always used it. but this is time can't get hold of any for many reasons.

what do u guys think? I have no problems with the sides of fina at all. i'm afraid of the fina crash w/o test.

let me know guys. given that diet and pct is all in check as always.

I'm thinking about doing....fina/winny cycle.

 

[lakelandrb20]

ive ran fina before without test and it was great... strength went thru the roof but there was minimal weight gain mayb 5 pounds
id recomend running it with test but if not id just up the dosage
i experienced no crash either besides a slight headache

 

[strngthnhonor]

^^

 

[JohnnyWest]

Tren without test was very bad for me, i felt tired and lazy all the time, generally felt like shit until i added some prop towards the end of my cycle. I had to cut the tren short due to progesterone problems though.

 

[Slyder190]

I use test as the base for every cycle. And recomend others do as well. There are guys that do cycles with no test and have no probs, but I would never take the chance, especially while running Tren or Deca. I like the way test makes me feel. Strong and FUCKIN HORNY!

 

[tiggerizme]

Tren can have some pretty nasty sides including Fina Dick. I use Test with my Tren every time. If I dont have one then I dont do the other.

 

[Bruce]

i would never touch a nandrolone derivative like tren or deca without testosterone

 

[jomi822]

tren without test....ive heard bad things

even if you dont have any sides, why not add some test prop for added strength and weight gain?

well worth the price on the off chance of experiencing the tren lethargy or fina dick.

 

[UFC22]

I am currently running Tren E at 400mgs/EW and 600mgs/EW of Eq with great results and no sides. Everyone reacts differently.

 

[strngthnhonor]

when I run my test wit tren..... the test is always at 250mg/wk. never higher than that. i'm going to make my own fina. and I don't wanna mail order one bottle of test as I have everything else ready to go.

 

[immortalis]

i would never touch a nandrolone derivative like tren or deca without testosterone

That makes 2 of us. Its just not worth the risk for those kinds of sides.

 

[Apexx]

Chances are that it's gonna kill ur sex drive, but you won't know until you try it. If you cannot get test or even proviron, I'd get some dostinex to help out with the libido. You can get that from ag guys

 

[swordfish151]

The problem is that you really wont know till you try it...but thats a risk that your going to have to decided. Like some have said, some have run tren without test and even deca without test with no ill side affects or loss of libido...BUT if you land on the other side of the coin and DO get those sides you wont be happy...

 

[strngthnhonor]

hahaha good advice swordfish lol.

I guess I knew that already. I'm just afraid to try it.

 

[fcfmuaythai]

Like some others on here, I know guys that take tren without test without problems, but I have heard horror stories of guys taking no test with their tren too. If nothing else, I would take some proviron at 50mg/day to help out. If I were you, I would have some test on hand just in case you get the sides from tren that test will help with. Good luck!