im sure everyone is sick of posts like this

[twilliamson8]

Alright friends

This is my first cycle.

Read a lot of confliting info all throughout the web.

Goals- short cycle, small dosage to make some gains (as I've hit a wall at 206lbs being 5'10")
Here's what im doing.

Tell me if im stupid

Nolva As needed for gyno
w1-8 test e 125mg 2x/week
W6-8 hcg 500I.u. 2x/week
5 days after last hcg inj.
nolva - 80mg day one, 20 mg thereafter per day for 3 weeks

I know you guys see these posts all the time, any comments are totally welcome

Obviously a little nervous and the conflicting internet stories don't help

 

[jtmdell]

The test e dosage is kind of low, you may want to consider bumping it up to 500mg per week. 400 at least.

 

[twilliamson8]

Ok I could do that.
everything else seems gravy though?

 

[twilliamson8]

The test e dosage is kind of low, you may want to consider bumping it up to 500mg per week. 400 at least.

I dont mind bumping it up a little as you saId. I just dont want to blow the fuck up out of the blue or deal with more significant side effects of higher test dosages.

400-500 a week is doable though

 

[krill89]

I would stretch the test cycle for at least 10 weeks and bump the dose up to as said 4-500mg

 

[Stackinplates]

If ur cycle is only 8 weeks and ur set on that use prop but that's not really a good choice on virgin muscles if it's test e minimum 10 weeks preferably 12 imo

 

[Stackinplates]

Can we get some more stats before we continue ?

 

[Stackinplates]

How old are ya
Training experience
Diet etc....

 

[wootoom]

This is a great start. We aren't getting sick of threads like this. I like where your head is at..

I started at 250mg/ew it's pretty low but I upped it after 4 weeks. See how you react. With Enthanate I wouldn't go less than 10 weeks.

 

[wootoom]

Yes and stats like Stackinplates said.

 

[synthazeus]

Don't forget your AI protocol, definetly a very important thing on cycle! Will combat any estrogenic sides and keep your gains moderately leaner. Arimidex or Aromasin should be fine, but please don't skimp on it.
And your dosages are alittle to low. 400-500mg a week is a good starting point, 10 weeks minimum

 

[twilliamson8]

How old are ya
Training experience
Diet etc....

26 5'10"
202lbs
Lifting consistently for two years.
Benching flat 305
Squatting 350
Ive hit a wall. I have made small, and I mean small (2.5 lbs) gains over the last 6 mo.

I thought it was time.

I eat 4000 calories a day(bumping to 5000 during cycle)
1g protein per lb of body weight A day

eod workout, well rounded.

Ive seriously hit a wall. Everyone told me to wait till I reached my max potential prior to hittin a cycle... I listened.

Any other advice is totally welcome guys.

 

[twilliamson8]

Another thing

The person whom I purchased the anos from said that AIs can be used, but with first cycle and dosages that were low (250-500mg a week) estrogen aromatization wasnt a big deal.

they weren't even available from him

I have nolvadex and hcg. Thats all I have. I diD my first injection today (my roomate fainted from the sight lol)

If it is a problem to run this without ai I Wil stop now.

My understanding was to just use nolvadex at signs of gyno and that ais simply helped test not aromatiZe into estrogen and emphasis on HELPS(just makes it more effective)

 

[twilliamson8]

Anyone have a comment about my conceptions of AIs as I wrote in the last comment?