i use to hang out with some infamous "juicers" in atlanta. they worked out with me at my old gym Main Event (the one Lex Luger owned with Miss Elizabeth)
anyways, anytime they get that liquid courage and go out they would act like meatheads. trying to snake some chick from some other dude, the dude would take offense and BAM!
you cant calm down a guy on 1500 mg of Test, 100 mg of Tren ED, etc etc if he's trashed and an arrogant asshole.