if money wasnt an issue, would you still use UG gear?

[Mavy]

Wasnt this discussion about underground labs anyways?

 

[needsize]

it was the ttokkyo cyp I was referring to

 

[Big Rick Rock]

OH GOD!

Please stop making irrelevant posts! You are off target on so many levels!

Higher quality control means higher production cost.
Safety is a relative term. The more safer you want your product to be, the more expensive it would be.

Huh DuH... Yeah thats why QV, DenKkal and Animal Power contract a huge licensed and regulated compounding pharmacy to make all of their products instead of trying to run a lab themselves.

BTW- All production costs are cheaper in Mexico than in the USA, even for products of better quality.

So QV does extra quality control just because of goodness of their heart? They cannot be sued if a human being gets an abscess or dies by using their product.

QV does quality control in two steps. 1- they test the raw materials before they send them off to be compounded. 2- they test te final products once they come back from the lab... Why? because they want to stay in business.

Where are all the guys dying or getting sick from using Vet steroids? I bet they are not from Elite, yes they EF members get all of the good batches right?

I am a professional who knows the drug approval process.
As a matter of standard, it may be acceptable for a few animals to die to make a product cheaper.
It would never be acceptable for a human product..

What the fuck are you talking about? AAS are not some experimental drug that is being tested. The steroids that these labs are putting out have been around for over 60yrs, tried and proven to be safe if used properly.

Abscess is a local infection from germs in the product. If, by bad luck, someone injects it into a vein or artery, then there may be a life threatening infection.

Where are all of the guys dropping dead from using Vet steroids? I haven't heard of any. I have yet to read a post by a guy who got an infection or sick from using Qv stuff... Even guys using crap from UG labs are not getting sick or dropping dead. The same guys that turned pellets of Finaplix-H into injectsble solutions in their kitchens are still here posting....

What the fuck do you base all of this bullshit on?

Please stop bro, you are embarrasing yourself.

 

[Mavy]

You have some good points BRR.

Think of it like this. Some people buy expensive brand name clothing, or prods or gear, over no name cheaper stuff. Why? because they like to believe they are paying for a high quality product. Will the no name or cheaper brands serve their purpose?? Yes they probably will. But ... many people who spend more on the stuff they buy like to think of it as .. "you get what you pay for".

The human pharmaceutical industry is a Multi-Billion dollar industry! The mexi-vet scene has somewhat inched its way into this .. somehow I guess.... into the US Black Market! Companies like Organon are HUGE, INTERNATIONAL pharmaceutical GIANTS .. pumping shit loads of money into research, science, innovation and cutting edge products. These companies operate all over the globe. There business is focused on on being a leader in this arena. Mexi-gear is from Mexico, manufactured cheaper, sold cheaper, and "pawned off" as being made for puppys, when really it is being sold to both people and puppies.

 

[satchboogie]

i've never seen BRR so involved in a thread..

 

[chgolatin2]

UG of course, however I limit my purchases to ONLY REPUTABLE UG LAB's, price is not a factor when it comes to safety.

Ciao, Latin

 

[Big Rick Rock]

i've never seen BRR so involved in a thread..
makes me think....

It might surprise you to know that some of us actually spend time on here because we want to share info. I'm a sucker for a good debate and Mavy always poses a challenge.

 

[rao740]

u gotta lovce the QV very fond of it my self the deca like u said the cyp is great stanz looks like creamy watered down milk but works wonders i think so probably a little of both i HG and UG done both the UG sust thats some gross sh** will play connect the dots on ur back anyone?

 

[satchboogie]

It might surprise you to know that some of us actually spend time on here because we want to share info. I'm a sucker for a good debate and Mavy always poses a challenge.

if it wasnt for debates, why else would anybody be here

 

[The Terminator]

Again, the makers of Mexican "vet" steroids know their stuff is being used by Cheap Americans!! .. Which I guess can be included as humans as well I guess. lol.

You seem to be the odd ball of the bunch BRR. I guess we should say that "99% of the steroid community" would opt for human grade if they werent saving bling somehow by buying Mexi-gear. Most of us would take human grade over vet if money werent an issue.

Your scenario presents one little problem for MOST here though...MONEY IS AN ISSUE when purchasing gear for most (hence the large volumes of Vet gear that are bought every year...)

I realize you want to debate "around" that little problem, but most guys here will have a hard time overlooking a fact that they ALL face when purchasing their stuff...PRICE...