if money wasnt an issue, would you still use UG gear?

[BionicBC]

Yup, QV is much cheaper at the same quality. We have gone thru this debate many times before.

Cheaper for who? All human grade is the same price? Maybe this is true in most cases... And the quality issue could definately be debated but lets not go there...
Bionic

 

[Big Rick Rock]

When I say this, dont get angry, or read something else into it. Im not saying QV products arent legit, or that they dont produce desired results. I jsut know human grade test doesnt hurt, at least when I inject them, and QV does. Although I know 99% of QV shit isnt being used on dogs/cats, if iys got a Maltese or a German Shepard on the label, its not Human Grade Test bro. Not to trash QV, whatever floats your boat, but you asked what Im basing my opinion on, I dont think its MY opinion or an OPINION per se at all, just a fact that if a dog is on the label, that is a vet grade product, not Human Grade.
Bionic

What is the difference between "Human Grade" and "Vet Grade" test?

I'll dig up some of my old posts on this subject.

 

[BionicBC]

What is the difference between "Human Grade" and "Vet Grade" test?

I'll dig up some of my old posts on this subject.

Cool, Im always up for some enlightenment and knowledge. You seem to be a knowledgeable bro...
PS-If you can get me someQV Winny that is as painless as Zambons, Ill really appreciate it and take back every bad thing ive ever said about QV injectables.
Bionic

 

[concordsize]

I believe it was huck who stated years back that "some vet steroids contained agents to block worms" not sure if that is true or not. Has never stoped me from shooting a good 800mg of qv cyp in the ass.lol

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[Big Rick Rock]

Cool, Im always up for some enlightenment and knowledge. You seem to be a knowledgeable bro...
PS-If you can get me someQV Winny that is as painless as Zambons, Ill really appreciate it and take back every bad thing ive ever said about QV injectables.
Bionic

So... If all the results are the same, having a painless shot justifies paying almost 3x as much for a Zambon over a bottle of QV 100mg/ml ?

I have tried almost everything and the difference in pain is not that great.

The best cure for a little site injection pain on your ass cheek is putting a fatter wallet on your back poket

 

[BionicBC]

So... If all the results are the same, having a painless shot justifies paying almost 3x as much for a Zambon over a bottle of QV 100mg/ml ?

I have tried almost everything and the difference in pain is not that great.

The best cure for a little site injection pain on your ass cheek is putting a fatter wallet on your back poket

Good point bro, I guess if I was strapped for cash id go that route too, but as long as ive got the funds, ill stick to ICN's and Zambons.
Bionic

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Good point bro, I guess if I was strapped for cash id go that route too, but as long as ive got the funds, ill stick to ICN's and Zambons.
Bionic

Is not an issue of being strapped for cash. a bottle of Stan100 / 20ml 100mg/ml is equal to 40 amps of Zambones (50mg per amp)...

All those Zambones are about 3x more expensive than the QV, and the results are the same. Maybe the higher concentration QV Stan is a bit more painful but not enough to make me want to pay 3 times the amount.

 

[Ulter]

The reason I asked is that I personally had 4 QV products tested and the results are in Bill Llewellyn's Anabolics 2004. They all came back clean and properly dosed. I am not challenging your opinion I just wanted to know what you based it on. Just FYI two of the companies in Mexico do contract work for GD Searle and other US based drug companies for steroids. They make the steriods in the same place they make the ones they put in vet boxes. Those labels are put on to skirt the Mexican drug laws and for no other reason.

I don't want anyone to think I am personally endorsing any Mexi-gear company but the test for dosing and bacteria content were fine when we test it. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

The reason I asked is that I personally had 4 QV products tested and the results are in Bill Llewellyn's Anabolics 2004. They all came back clean and properly dosed. I am not challenging your opinion I just wanted to know what you based it on. Just FYI two of the companies in Mexico do contract work for GD Searle and other US based drug companies for steroids. They make the steriods in the same place they make the ones they put in vet boxes. Those labels are put on to skirt the Mexican drug laws and for no other reason.

I don't want anyone to think I am personally endorsing any Mexi-gear company but the test for dosing and bacteria content were fine when we test it. Draw your own conclusions.

OK... I didn't want to bring this up but Ulter said it so i will too... Yes, the same Labs that make stuff (not just Steroids) for GD Searle and Eli lilly (sp?) are contracted by QV, Denkkal and Animal Power to compound their products. Contrary to popular belive, Mexico has some pretty strict laws for compunding pharmacies, they have some pretty tough standards to meet.

 

[BionicBC]

OK... I didn't want to bring this up but Ulter said it so i will too... Yes, the same Labs that make stuff (not just Steroids) for GD Searle and Eli lilly (sp?) are contracted by QV, Denkkal and Animal Power to compound their products. Contrary to popular belive, Mexico has some pretty strict laws for compunding pharmacies, they have some pretty tough standards to meet.

Despite our 'discussion,' if you notice during the course of this Ive been referring solely to injectables also. I am VERY interested in QV's latest release (?), Anavar tabs. I was planning on going with BD, but hey-Id love to try QV's and see whats up. Who knows, I might become an all out spokesperson for em! j/k.
But hey, whats the verdict on their orals?
Bionic