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ideas for lagging hamstrings?

DAWNLYNN

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Im getting real nice comments on my legs, but someone told me that my hamstrings were lagging behind my quads.
Its bothering me.
I am doing legs once a week. Is that enough.
Someone told me to try deadlifts, but Im not too sure about technique and I dont have anyone to train with.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Stiff legged deadlifts from a platform AKA stldl, do a search. They will attack the hamstrings from the hip insertions. Follow them up with leg curls that work from the knee-insertions.

In contrast to quads, keep reps very low for hamstrings (8-6 reps)

You could even choose to train hamstrings and quads on seperate days.

Hamstrings glutes and back are part of the posterior chain, i like to train hamstrings with back and calves....

example routine: HAMSTRINGS-BACK-CALVES

session 1:

3 * 5 reps regular deadlift
(stresses the whole body especially back)
3 * 8 stiff legged deadift from a platform
(stresses glutes hamstrings and some lower back)
2 * triple drop set leg curl
2 * 8 heavy barbell lunges

now continu with your back and calves exercises

session 2:

3 * 20 reps regular deadlift
(stresses the whole body especially back)
3 * 8 stiff legged deadift from a platform
(stresses glutes hamstrings and some lower back)
2 * 8 heavy barbell lunges
2 * triple drop set one leg curl

now continu with your back and calves exercises


repeat
 
Thanks a lot.
I stopped doing stiff leg deadlifts because I was feeling a lot in my lower back and thought I was not doing them correctly.
 
DAWNLYNN said:
Thanks a lot.
I stopped doing stiff leg deadlifts because I was feeling a lot in my lower back and thought I was not doing them correctly.

You aren't doing them correctly if you feel it more in your lower back. You could either be going down too far...or not sitting back enough. It is actually a very small movement...but they are awesome for hamstring growth!
 
during the stiff legged deadlift you should be able to maintain the full arch of your lower back.. kness can be bent slightly gpush glutes out/back during movement.. shoulder should be locked back and chest pushed out.. grip 1-2 "hands" away from hips (wide grip often makes maintaining arch easier)
 
Also, many people try to descend lower than they should, which causes the back to round. Only go down as far as you can maintain your arch. Your ability to increase the ROM will come with time.
 
That's it!!! Keep the Arch!!!

Spatts...I have to do the same thing...every rep, I'm like...okay...sqEEEEEZE the hams!!! lol.
 
Okay I'm a deadlifing expert...sorry for blowing my own horn he he he ..

Stiff leg deads are the single best ham movement out there for adding mass bar none. It also is great for the lumbar muscles and butt as well as the entire upper mid back and traps.
SLDL were a favorite of the smart training Dorain Yates and are often used by pwerlifters, in some camps, and Olympic lifters.
This is how you do them....

Its best to use a regular grip with wrist straps as the competition style grip you often see in the regular deadlift can cause upper body torque since you are not "re-setting" after each rep.

This exercise is the most misunderstood and poorly executed of all BB exercises and has screwed up many a back as a result. Almost nobody does them correctly.
Best instruction will come from either an Olympic lifter or power lifter as very few BBers really know how to do these.

#1. Usae a regular grip and you need to use wrist straps or your grip will give out before the low back and hams.

#2. The movement starts with a very conscious pelvic tilt at the HIP. You pivit at the hip and push your butt back.
The knees should be very slightly unlocked since keeping the knees locked will limit the weight you can use, as well as potentially screw up the knees and low back.

#3. NEVER EVER EVER go down to the point where you touch the top of your instep and i don't care how flexible you are. In time you will hurt your lower back if you insist on doing this especially when you start using some serious weight. I know a fellow that is extremely flexible and he used to touch the top of his feet....one day he blew out his back big time while finishing a rep with over 400 pounds....he has never been the same since.
The shearing force generated at the low back greatly increases as you pass mid shin
Go down to mid shin and thats it...plenty deep and a good stretch IF the lower back is kept flat and the pivit is at the hip and not the low back.

#4. As I said...keep the low back flat. an arched back is not needed and will limit the weight you can use....but keep the back FLAT. Head needs to be looking up in the mirror at all times.

#5. Keep the bar as close to your legs as possible at all times.

#5. Do the movement slowly and without any explosive movement. Take your time and don't rush the reps as the pain increases. Properly done a set of SLDL will have you taking many deep breathes before descending after the 6th rep or so

#6. Never go to utter failure as this is too risky.

You should be able , in time , to stiff leg deadlift a lot of weight and almost as much as you squat, believe it or not.

You can and should do at least 10 reps per set and better yet 12-15. Hams do respond well to higher reps just like the quads and especially with the SLDL. I recommend lower reps be left for the leg curl.

Two work sets of 10-15 done properly will be plenty.
After the two work sets do one all out set of back extensions with weight in the hyperextension bench.
You could then do a couple of work sets in the regular leg curl machine although olympic lifters almost never do this exercise and they have fantastic hams.

Also let it be known that squating properly(upper legs parallel to the floor at the bottom) and deep leg pressing works the hams pretty good too.

I was going to include the technique of the Romanian deadlift, which I have done while training as an Olympic lifter, which is slightly different, but I think one should master the regular SLDL first as the Romanian style is more complicated.

Hope this helps
 
Oh good grief

Sounds like I could really use these, but I would never be able to know if I were doing them right or not. With my history of back trouble I will avoid them like the plague.

I can't even figure out how to do squats using my hamstrings!!!

*goes off to pout*

:bawling:
 
Re: Oh good grief

ATrollFromTheFatBoard said:
Sounds like I could really use these, but I would never be able to know if I were doing them right or not. With my history of back trouble I will avoid them like the plague.

I can't even figure out how to do squats using my hamstrings!!!

*goes off to pout*

:bawling:


You should be able to do them by following my advice but even if you don't then back extensions are pretty good for the low back and hams.

As far as the squats go...don't "try" to use more hamstring by farting around with foot positioning etc...this will only get you injured in the long run. Just learn to squat properly and to the point where the upper thighs are parallel to the floor at the bottom. Keep your back straight and head up and try not to lean forward excessively, although some forward lean is needed.
Ladies do better with a pretty wide stance since they have longer legs compaired to men of the same height. Point the toes outward a little and not straight ahead . Do not bounce.

If you find yourself leaning forward a great deal then place the bar lower on the back like a power lifter...that is resting on the rear delts. You may also be tight in the ankle/calf so do some stretching. Remember the longer your legs are compaired to your torso the more important a wider stance is.
Some people just cannot squat do to bad biomechanics but most can learn to squat fairly well. If you just cannot squat then do deep leg presses...touch kness to chest or even shoulders and place the feet high up on the platform.



RG:)
 
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