I thought EF was once about...

[Pat_McCrotch]

When i first came here I heard a lot of bros tell noobs to train natty, juice wont lose your fat. You need to train hard eat and rest.


get your diet in check, study how to train, rest, take BCAAs, MVI then we can talk some juice.


Where did this good solid advice go?

 

[GUARDIAN]

When i first came here I heard a lot of bros tell noobs to train natty, juice wont lose your fat. You need to train hard eat and rest.


get your diet in check, study how to train, rest, take BCAAs, MVI then we can talk some juice.


Where did this good solid advice go?

I still have that opinion and still give that advice. The most important anabolic agents are your diet & training.

 

[OMEGA]

Its still here



I think as the Seasons change so does participation

I have been here for 7 Years almost Daily and can say that the board goes through MANY life cycles

in the End one thing hold true we are the best

 

[access]

errn that advice is still solid.

There is little point starting a cycle until such time as you have taken yourself to somewhere close at least to your genetic limits. A good diet and hard training is the way to go early on.

 

[OMEGA]

When i first came here I heard a lot of bros tell noobs to train natty, juice wont lose your fat. You need to train hard eat and rest.


get your diet in check, study how to train, rest, take BCAAs, MVI then we can talk some juice.


Where did this good solid advice go?

Great Advice

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I am glad to see it still here. i still ove this board as you can tell by me logging on daily. I dont think some people who post alot on here give that advice out like it used to be.

 

[Jon79]

at least there r still peeps here like u omega and me and the rest to tell ppl when we think they might have recieved the wrong advice

btw i like holy....he has good diet advice and he may have high dose cycles but thats just him

 

[alcatraz1662]

Totally agree my man. There are still a couple of good bros here and there. but alot of good guys have gone as well......rip brucey,

~Alc

 

[needtogetaas]

at least there r still peeps here like u omega and me and the rest to tell ppl when we think they might have recieved the wrong advice

btw i like holy....he has good diet advice and he may have high dose cycles but thats just him

wtf.

Any way yes this advice is always still here and always will bee.

 

[Kano]

I get alot of good advice from good bros on here

 

[Trendsetter21]

I believe that is the first option we tell people. But No one wants to listen to it anymore, they want the fast easy fix. Many people think they eat right and stuff but if they actually wrote down their diet the would realize they eat like crap. You can't eat any fast food if you are on a diet and trying to cut weight. I know a few guys that say they are on a diet and I'll come over and they'll have burger king on the table. The new age of kids don't want to listen to the actual real good advice of being more disciplined.

 

[Jon79]

wtf.

Any way yes this advice is always still here and always will bee.

and needto too

 

[GUARDIAN]

I believe that is the first option we tell people. But No one wants to listen to it anymore, they want the fast easy fix. Many people think they eat right and stuff but if they actually wrote down their diet the would realize they eat like crap. You can't eat any fast food if you are on a diet and trying to cut weight. I know a few guys that say they are on a diet and I'll come over and they'll have burger king on the table. The new age of kids don't want to listen to the actual real good advice of being more disciplined.

Hammer on the nail!

Great bodies are made in the kitchen. You know how many times I want to quit eating good? More than I care to count.

One thing that I notice with some is there lack of reality when it comes to portions. Sure they write down what they eat but it doesn't match reality. Get a food scale and measure your food.

 

[Tatyana]

I believe that is the first option we tell people. But No one wants to listen to it anymore, they want the fast easy fix. Many people think they eat right and stuff but if they actually wrote down their diet the would realize they eat like crap. You can't eat any fast food if you are on a diet and trying to cut weight. I know a few guys that say they are on a diet and I'll come over and they'll have burger king on the table. The new age of kids don't want to listen to the actual real good advice of being more disciplined.

Brilliant!

I read these stats recently, it went something like:

85% of people in the UK think their diet is healthy

65% of people in the UK are overweight or obese

Something is just not matching up there.

If I had a pound/dollar for everytime I heard someone say "But I eat healthy".

I am sure they think it is healthy from what they know NOW, there is just a gap in their knowledge (like a Burger King every now and then isn't going to make a difference on a diet..........................)

 

[ricorico]

When i first came here I heard a lot of bros tell noobs to train natty, juice wont lose your fat. You need to train hard eat and rest.


get your diet in check, study how to train, rest, take BCAAs, MVI then we can talk some juice.


Where did this good solid advice go?

when u 1st came here? making it sound like a yrs ago....youve only been around since this yr....

but on the other hand....i still throw that advice around here and there

 

[needtogetaas]

Hammer on the nail!

Great bodies are made in the kitchen. You know how many times I want to quit eating good? More than I care to count.

One thing that I notice with some is there lack of reality when it comes to portions. Sure they write down what they eat but it doesn't match reality. Get a food scale and measure your food.

I like how that sounds.

 

[druncanwaria]

When i first came here I heard a lot of bros tell noobs to train natty, juice wont lose your fat. You need to train hard eat and rest.


get your diet in check, study how to train, rest, take BCAAs, MVI then we can talk some juice.


Where did this good solid advice go?

people are going to take drugs regardless of what anyone says.. younger people have larger amounts of cash available to them these days and it seems they are willing to take larger risks. this is apperant when you look at the percentage of young people that have tried heavy drugs like meth and E.

I think the advice that yoou like to see is still here but people also offer cycle advice to new people so they dont fuck them selves up and do permenant damage...or at least as much

 

[alcatraz1662]

people are going to take drugs regardless of what anyone says.. younger people have larger amounts of cash available to them these days and it seems they are willing to take larger risks. this is apperant when you look at the percentage of young people that have tried heavy drugs like meth and E.

I think the advice that yoou like to see is still here but people also offer cycle advice to new people so they dont fuck them selves up and do permenant damage...or at least as much

that's why we have to take responsibility about the advice we give people. i miss the old EF, but there are still great guys here.

 

[Nelson Montana]

that's why we have to take responsibility about the advice we give people. i miss the old EF, but there are still great guys here.

I think overall the atmosphere is a thousand times better than it was 2 years ago. We're all responsible for passing along good advice, sharing ideas and (this may seem lofty) getting people to see the power of these amazing compounds without abusing them.

Yo, Al...is that you in the avi? It looks like the old "Mike Marvel" pose, only you're more jacked!

And let me be the first to wish everyone a healthy anabolically enhanced 2008!!!

 

[alcatraz1662]

I think overall the atmosphere is a thousand times better than it was 2 years ago. We're all responsible for passing along good advice, sharing ideas and (this may seem lofty) getting people to see the power of these amazing compounds without abusing them.

Yo, Al...is that you in the avi? It looks like the old "Mike Marvel" pose, only you're more jacked!

And let me be the first to wish everyone a healthy anabolically enhanced 2008!!!

yeah right i wish....that's my boy mariusz pudzianowski, former world's strongest man. but to reply to ya, i like the atmosphere here too...i just miss a couple of the older guys that bounced because of the BS that was going on here.

~Alc

 

[Tatyana]

yeah right i wish....that's my boy mariusz pudzianowski, former world's strongest man. but to reply to ya, i like the atmosphere here too...i just miss a couple of the older guys that bounced because of the BS that was going on here.

~Alc

Mariusz is still the world's strongest man I thought, 5 years running...........

I watch strongman comps all the time, the BBC is great for broadcasting them.

 

[alcatraz1662]

Mariusz is still the world's strongest man I thought, 5 years running...........

I watch strongman comps all the time, the BBC is great for broadcasting them.

didn't he get beat by an american a year ago....maybe a couple years ago? one year of pissing hot too if memory serves me correct.

~Alc

 

[hurricane]

i aint been here long but seems like alot of bros know their stuff .. needto .. nelson and omega .. etc.. i dont see it as they dont advise good diet and training cause when ever u see a post" just started working out what cycle should i do" they all jump and tells them "get your diet down and work out and grow natural, u not ready for gear".. but if someone asks a general question in a "steriod section" about steriods or cycles thats what kinda answer u gonna get .. an answer about gear lol ...pretty simple IMO

 

[ricorico]

didn't he get beat by an american a year ago....maybe a couple years ago? one year of pissing hot too if memory serves me correct.

~Alc

good ole american representing...thats what i like to hear

 

[bsdgeek]

hey guys, here ya go:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/i-have-idea-575355.html

 

[thelion2005]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...rule-anabolic-forum-must-read-all-564064.html

Good enough for me.

 

[bsdgeek]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...rule-anabolic-forum-must-read-all-564064.html

Good enough for me.

yeah, what happened to this??

 

[needtogetaas]

I did my part and made this thread a sticky
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...s-special-thanks-those-who-helped-574561.html

 

[bsdgeek]

ERRN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what tha fuck up ma brotha!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't tell me some bullshit bout savin lives, standin on yo feet all damn day and night and all that shit. LOL

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

when u 1st came here? making it sound like a yrs ago....youve only been around since this yr....

but on the other hand....i still throw that advice around here and there

Thats my point!! I have not seen it as much now as i did when i first came on here,

I am not trying to make anything sound like anything its not. Why would I try to make it sound like i have been here for ever when you can look to the lket and see I havent been.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

ERRN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what tha fuck up ma brotha!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't tell me some bullshit bout savin lives, standin on yo feet all damn day and night and all that shit. LOL

Wus up!! I gotta baby coming in about 6 weeks. trying to work as much as I can but not too much. Still savin lives. Stamping out colds one tylenol at a time.

 

[bsdgeek]

a baby!! congrats!! boy or girl? hell, work, you better be gettin some sleep, u gonna need it LOL

 

[Slyder190]

When i first came here I heard a lot of bros tell noobs to train natty, juice wont lose your fat. You need to train hard eat and rest.


get your diet in check, study how to train, rest, take BCAAs, MVI then we can talk some juice.


Where did this good solid advice go?

It's repetaed regularly.

 

[DJ_UFO]

I believe that is the first option we tell people. But No one wants to listen to it anymore, they want the fast easy fix. Many people think they eat right and stuff but if they actually wrote down their diet the would realize they eat like crap. You can't eat any fast food if you are on a diet and trying to cut weight. I know a few guys that say they are on a diet and I'll come over and they'll have burger king on the table. The new age of kids don't want to listen to the actual real good advice of being more disciplined.

yeah. The good old advices are still around. The problem is, young newbies have easy access to steroids now more than ever before. Everything has changed in the last 5-7 years. The world stop spinning for one day on 9/11 but the reality is, everything changed after that; this is a different world. Steroids became popular and available, and we know from years ago how many newbies post here every day asking how to use this or that, how much, etc...they already have everything on hand and THEY WILL USE IT NO MATTER WHAT WE TELL THEM. That's how those advices were given less and less over time. We reached a point where giving those advices was useless, because they will get the information anyways somewhere else on the net.

Suposedly after the big steroid bust this year, steroids market should be under control now so hopefully innocent young kids don't have easy access to them anymore.


Giving free access to steroids to the people, is like throwing guns into a cage of monkeys. If monkeys know how to use weapons, they will be absolutely safe; if they don't know, they will kill each other. With steroids, the same. Not that people will kill each other but undiscriminated, ignorant and uneducated use could bring catastrophic consequences to the society.

 

[ViperHMS]

Its still here



I think as the Seasons change so does participation

I have been here for 7 Years almost Daily and can say that the board goes through MANY life cycles

in the End one thing hold true we are the best

I'm with ya....chime in on my Old Timers thread

 

[OMEGA]

i did before you posted here

 

[ViperHMS]

I am glad to see it still here. i still ove this board as you can tell by me logging on daily. I dont think some people who post alot on here give that advice out like it used to be.

I agree and i'll be the first to say that I dont do as much as I should to help out sometimes, but after a while when you hear the same question being asked over and over and over again you just get tired of copying your response from the first time the question was asked and pasting it into the new thread. WOW glad this is not english class cause that was a long ass sentence.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

a baby!! congrats!! boy or girl? hell, work, you better be gettin some sleep, u gonna need it LOL

its a girl. I wanna go with jeanna but then I think of our favorite jenna jameson. Wouldnt be good. lol

 

[xrsist]

yeah right i wish....that's my boy mariusz pudzianowski, former world's strongest man. but to reply to ya, i like the atmosphere here too...i just miss a couple of the older guys that bounced because of the BS that was going on here.

~Alc

i agree there has been a couple good bros leave here because of the BS and because of a certain member.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I have learned alot on here myself but am no where near the knowledge to give advice on roids. i have no problem with teh medical side. I try and contribute that way. and give head too. that always seems to help. Im kidding.

 

[Selfcentor]

When i first came here I heard a lot of bros tell noobs to train natty, juice wont lose your fat. You need to train hard eat and rest.


get your diet in check, study how to train, rest, take BCAAs, MVI then we can talk some juice.


Where did this good solid advice go?

All i got to say is my biggest pet peeve on here is guys trying to use steroids to lose weight. Im not talking about guys like needsize or others that do it for competition but fat asses who are to lazy to diet and do cardio..I HATE the use of steroids to lose weight when it comes to that.

 

[holy ghost]

good thread

 

[hugeskinny]

everyone wants the magic pill. just learning the hard way.

 

[alcatraz1662]

i agree there has been a couple good bros leave here because of the BS and because of a certain member.

1+

 

[LiquidPhire]

I miss the days of Ulter/Macro/MikeFearz/AR/SolidSpine to name a few when everyone was here it was a nice diverse board ripe with advice.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I miss the days of Ulter/Macro/MikeFearz/AR/SolidSpine to name a few when everyone was here it was a nice diverse board ripe with advice.

Solid Spine was the epitome of suggesting reckless dosages. Can't have it both ways.

I think it's okay to have a few "characters." If a sensible person comes on here and gets advice from a bunch of good bros and one member goes against the grain and suggests an outrageous dosage, common sense dictates that shouldn't be the advice to take. If someone is that dumb they'll be that dumb no matter what.

 

[LiquidPhire]

Solid Spine was the epitome of suggesting reckless dosages. Can't have it both ways.

I think it's okay to have a few "characters." If a sensible person comes on here and gets advice from a bunch of good bros and one member goes against the grain and suggests an outrageous dosage, common sense dictates that shouldn't be the advice to take. If someone is that dumb they'll be that dumb no matter what.

I love you Nelson, you are my favorite "character" :

 

[alcatraz1662]

Solid Spine was the epitome of suggesting reckless dosages. Can't have it both ways.

I think it's okay to have a few "characters." If a sensible person comes on here and gets advice from a bunch of good bros and one member goes against the grain and suggests an outrageous dosage, common sense dictates that shouldn't be the advice to take. If someone is that dumb they'll be that dumb no matter what.

yeah well solid spine has been replaced with another epitome of reckless dosages. it's just the cycle of forums i guess, when one character leaves another replaces them.

 

[xrsist]

yeah well solid spine has been replaced with another epitome of reckless dosages. it's just the cycle of forums i guess, when one character leaves another replaces them.

very well put alc and i agree 100%

 

[Mavafanculo]

anybody who reads a single post or takes the advice of a single individual and then fucks with his hormones is a fool.

a board like this is INTENDED to provide facts (doesnt matter who posts them, a study is a study, a scholarly paper is a scholarly paper) AND a diverse pool of opinions on what to do with those facts.

as for doses, for every post I see that I think is way too high a dose, I see another that is so low as to just be a waste of money and time.

there's alot of smart experienced people on this board. Read it all, digest it, form a conclusion based on the totality of facts and opinions. Chances are you wont go wrong.

no offense to the thread makers, I know its meant well, but lets make this the last thread on this topic - its getting old. everybody got the point.