I think people need a f*#@ing clue about sust.

[olympia4ever]

dn...you say your goal after week 18 is 285@ 6%...if you get that mate you might aswell lose an extra 3% dropping about 20lbs, then compete at the mr.o next year...265 @3% could well win the show and youd be the new mr olympia...afterall you must be bigger than ronnie...ronnie comes in at what? 255 @ 3%...so you should be beating coleman if what your saying is true.

 

[Bam Bam]

OK Mike PT. I see you are an established member of the board he is your chance to prove me wrong.

Put your money where your mouth is and logically prove to me that how shooting once per week is more effective than EOD.
You can't.
If you can I will withdraw my statement.
Otherwise your cocky tone shows ignorance show shut the fuck up.
I respect any long term member of the board but when they come out with a straight out your wrong with nothing to back it up...I dont care who they are.

WTF? Are you comparing shooting 1 cc every other day to shooting only 1 cc per week? Or are you talking about shooting 1cc every other day compared to shooting 3 ccs once a week?
Silkwood, you need to lay off Yum, not only is a he a cool guy, but he helps a lot of people around here. BamBam

 

[silkdog]

golfer 18

OUCH!!

 

[haxedout]

I am sick and tired of people not understanding when and how to use sustanon.
They want to use it because
A.) Their buddy who did a Dbol cycle told them it was good.
B.) The guy at the gym is willing to sell it for $16/amp.

First off. If you want to shoot it once a week and think it is going to be awesome...fuck off.

Sustanon a great test blend if you under stand how to use it and how to supplement it with propinate and phenyl propinate.
The goal is to get a stable high blood level of test. Sust is
30mg propinate
60mg Phenyl prop
60mg iso capriate
100mg deconate
Here is the availability curve for it.
Day1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7 Day 8 Day9 Day10 Day11 Day12 Day13 Day14 Day15 Day16 Day17 Day18 Day19 Day20 Day21 Day22 Day23 Day24 Day25
prop 15 30 22 15 7
phenyl 0 15 30 45 60 54 48 42 36 30 24 18 12 9 6 3
isocap 0 15 30 45 60 54 48 42 36 30 24 18 12 9 6 3
decanoa 0 12 25 37 50 62 75 87 100 94 88 82 76 70 64 58 52 46 40 34 28 22 16 10
blood test15 72 107 142 177 170 171 171 172 154 136 118 100 88 76 64 52 46 40 34 28 22 16 10 0


Sorry its messed up but you should be able to follow it.
Its basicly saying after one 250 mg shot you have a max 172mg
in your blood at one time. This should just about suppress the HPTA.
Bottom line. If you are going to use sust.
A.) You have to inj EOD for it to be of any real value.
B.) Front load it with propinate to get to your desired levels right away

If you dont know what you are doing..Use Ethanate or Cyponate.


I have to go...Ill harp more later

hehe, good post bro...

 

[haxedout]

was I talking to you! Mind your own business asshole

FED..?hehe

 

[DNIndustry]

John Boy

Ok..
The last thing I want to do is get into a Stereotypical "Im bigger than you contest."
However we are on similar cycles (drug types..Not doses)
WK1 (6'3" 242lbs Starting)
----------------
2000mg/w Sust (EOD Inj)
800mg EQ/W
150mg Prop/D
200mg Phenl Propinate/E2Ds
2.5mg (Letrozole EOD)

Wk2(<-Currently 6'3" 251lbs)
----------------
2000mg/w Sust(EOD Inj)
800mg EQ/W
150mg Prop/EOD
2.5mg (Letrozole E0D)

Wk 3-11 (<-I dropped the prop,by the 3rd day my Bld test will be 2450mg...the level I want to remain constant.)
-------------------
2000mg/w Sust
800mg EQ /w
100mg Dianabol/ D
100mg Fina /D
2.5mg (Letrozole ED)

WK 12-14
---------------------
2000mg/w Sust
800mg EQ /w
100mg Fina /D
2.5mg (Letrozole EOD)
50mg Winstrol /D

WK 15-20
---------------------
150mg Prop ED
800mg EQ /w
100mg Fina /D
2.5mg (Letrozole EOD)
50mg Winstrol /D
200mg DNP/d (only 2 weeks)
1000UI HCG/D(only 2 weeks)

WK 21-Beyond
---------------------
Post Cycle Therapy
-Clomid
-Proviron
Post Cycle Trim & Maintenance (Not exact on doses yet)
-Primobolan
-DNP


I am not out to bash people. I am here to try and help. Your shooting 500mg/week. Great. Divide it out and into even EOD injections...Or at least pick a desired Blood test level and stick with it.
By the way ( This is not meant to sound like a prick)
-Test is test. The ester is what dictates its life and release.
The longer acting the ester the more dramatic the sideffects..IE Bloat. Prop will bloat you the least. Ethanate more so because of its ester...its longer lasting. The propinate is inactive before the side effects can increase.
Sustanon's is a blend of test esters. Its lack of bloat and water retention is attributed to its short acting esters (propinate/pheynl propinate) and the fact that it only has a small amount of long lasting esters to accumulate.
By saying that :
I don't need prop or ethan to bloat the hell out of me when I can get good gains and less bloat from sust. I am going to end the last 6 weeks of my cycle with 500mg sust./wk 50mg winny/day and 100mg of fina/day and I bet I am bigger then your ass when I'm done.
Not knowing what you are injecting yourself
Not knowing how it works
And saying you will be bigger than be is just like saying "My dad could beat up your Dad."
Brings out the Newbie in YOU!

 

[DNIndustry]

LONE_AZ

Sorry guys but that small amount does matter... It means that
250 mg Sust
-30mg Prop(fast acting)
---------------
220mg remaining
-60mg Pheynl(Semi Fast acting)
---------------
160mg Remainig

So what does this mean boys and girls..
you only get 160mg of cumulative long lasting test esters in each shot

2 shots per week thats 320mg long lasting esters. It is going to take a while to get your cumulative blood test levels to you where you want to be.

 

[DNIndustry]

Golfer_18

Golfer.
Thanks for Chiming in.
Please explain what you think about this

This Cunt wants to know...

 

[DNIndustry]

OLYMPIA4Ever

I couldnt tell if you were being sarcastic or not.
Oh well ..I dont care.
Being 6'3"-6'4" puts me at a disadvantage. To look like Ronnie I would have to be at 295lbs @3-4% I have a large frame..Extremely wide shoulders and long arms...I think my dress shirt arm length is 38-39.

 

[panerai]

Of course, injecting 1cc of Sustanon(or any steroid) three times a week is better then injecting 3cc once a week.
But, it's not that important. Focus and dedication in gym and behind the table, also proper rest, are much more important!

DNIndustry, I think, you would have easier time bringing your point accross, if you do it less offensively. Well, unless you don't care what you have to say, and just like arguing.