i see alot are saying no to nolva while using deca...please explain

[GlynnDiesel]

Anyone what would now be the alternative to nolva throughout a cylce which included deca, for those who are gyno prone? Arimidex?

Sorry to ask again. Aifm? Any info please, links, availble in the uk, over the counter??

 

[big_boy_1]

just reading through the posts and seeing alot of people saying no to nolva with deca????what is the reason...i havnt been on the boards for some time last i head was nolva was top for recovery...what have i missed?????nolva is all i have used for the last 2 years... is there some reason to change?

If you use just a little deca (just some 300-400 mg at most, just enough to help joints), plus test and nolva, i dont think you will get gyno.

I have used them for several cycles with no problems.

But if you use high dose deca (800+ mg), then maybe its a no-no.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

aromasin, letrozole, arimidex (though dex is not really suitable for those that are gyno prone)

AIFM is available in the UK
https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop/product_info.php?id=152

 

[SA80]

nolva+deca= man tits

I read an article that stated that nolva and proviron combo can be used while on a deca/test cycle and that it gave the muscles a hard look. So this is a bad idea?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Proviron + AI with Deca and Test would provide those results.

Nolva actually does little or nothing for bloat (in that aspect its estrogenic)

 

[bogazo]

i dont see how nolva could give you gyno when it binds and blocks it right?
anybody got the article where you guys seen that info at?nolva has always done well with me...???

 

[macrophage69alpha]

nolva binds to the ER. its estrogenic effects upregulate the PGR. the PGR is just as important as the ER for the development of gynecomastia and breast cancer.

AI's down regulate the PgR (because its E agonism that maintains/upregulates the PgR)
clomid, while having estrogenic effects, does not upregulate the PGR.