mistaballoonhands
Banned
I laughed.
you get those emails too?
I laughed.
you get those emails too?
Yes. Um, it's email. Its not going to get lost on the pony express, assholes.
More annoying...
I sent out a museum-wide email last week that I have to send out every morning, and on this one I accidentally wrote something was taking place at 12 a.m. instead of p.m. It's not an important email, just tells people what's going on that day and everybody knows this specific thing happens at noon, and I've also never messed it up before.
And this bitch emails me back, CCs one of our VPs and tells me "Annie, do you think maybe you should use 'noon' to avoid a.m. and p.m. if you don't know the difference?" And attached a long ass description/chart for me like a bitch.
The email:
Annie:
Do you think that we should change the time of 12:00am to 12:00 noon to avoid confusion. I attached a table below. It seems that there is confusion about the Ropes Course time (from guests I have encountered in KIC) and to clarify, maybe the word noon or 12:00 noon would be a better time indicator. Just a thought.
Thanks,
[Name deleted]
Confusion at noon and midnight
Time as denoted by various devices or styles
Device or style
Midnight
start of day
Noon
Midnight
end of day
Written 24-hour time,
including ISO 8601
00:00
12:00
24:00
24-hour digital clocks
00:00
12:00
— *
12-hour digital clocks
with a.m. and p.m.
12:00a.m.
12:00p.m.
— *
Written 12-hour time
(most common forms)
12:00 a.m.
12 midnight
12:00 p.m.
12 noon
12 midnight
U.S. Government Printing Office[11]
12a.m.
12p.m.
—
U.S. Government Printing Office (1953)
—
12:00a.m.
12:00p.m.
Japanese legal convention[12]
0:00a.m.
12:00a.m.
12:00p.m.
Antiquated †
12:00m.n.
12:00m.
12:00m.n.
Canadian Press, UK standard, NIST1 †
midnight
noon
midnight
NIST2 †
12:00Midnight
12:00Noon
12:00Midnight
Associated Press Style[13]
12:01 a.m.
noon
—
U.S. de facto legal
12:01a.m.
—
11:59p.m.
Encyclopædia Britannica[1]
Midnight
December 11–12
12m
Midnight
December 12–13
* Digital clocks usually do not reach midnight at the end of the day. Instead they wrap from 11:59 p.m. or 23:59 to midnight at the start of the next day.
Likewise the written 12-hour style wraps immediately to the start of the next day.
† These styles are ambiguous with respect to whether midnight is at the start and or end of each day.
Since the Latin word meridies means noon or midday, it is inconsistent to refer to noon as either "12 a.m." ("12 ante meridiem", or "12 o'clock before noon") or as "12 p.m." ("12 post meridiem", or "12 o'clock after noon"). On the other hand, midnight could logically be called either "12 p.m." (12 post meridiem, 12 hours after the previous noon) or "12 a.m." (12 ante meridiem, 12 hours before the following noon); "x a.m." no longer means "x hours before noon", but the x-numbered hour before noon.
The National Maritime Museum, Greenwich, states:[14][15]
To avoid confusion, the correct designation for twelve o'clock is 12 noon or 12 midnight. Alternatively, the twenty-four-hour-clock system may be used. The abbreviation a.m. stands for ante-meridiem (before the sun has crossed the line) and p.m. for post-meridiem (after the sun has crossed the line). At 12 noon the sun is at its highest point in the sky and directly over the meridian. It is therefore neither "ante-" nor "post-".
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (Fourth Edition, 2000) has a similar usage note on this topic: "Strictly speaking, 12 a.m. denotes midnight, and 12 p.m. denotes noon, but there is sufficient confusion over these uses to make it advisable to use 12 noon and 12 midnight where clarity is required."[16]
Many U.S. style guides (including the NIST website) recommend that it is clearest if one refers to "noon" or "12:00noon" and "midnight" or "12:00midnight" (rather than to "12:00p.m." and "12:00a.m.", respectively). Some other style guides suggest "12:00n" for noon and "12:00m" for midnight,[17] but that conflicts with the older tradition of using "12:00m" for noon[1] (Latin meridies), and "12:00mn" for midnight (Latin media nox).
The Canadian Press Stylebook (11th Edition, 1999, page 288) says, "write noon or midnight, not 12 noon or 12 midnight." Phrases such as "12 a.m." and "12 p.m." are not mentioned at all.
The use of "12:00 midnight" or "midnight" is still problematic because it does not distinguish between the midnight at the start of a particular day and the midnight at its end. To avoid confusion and error, some U.S. style guides recommend either clarifying "midnight" with other context clues, or not referring to midnight at all. For an example of the latter method, "midnight" is replaced with "11:59 p.m." for the end of a day or "12:01 a.m." for the start of the next day. That has become common in the United States in legal contracts and for airplane, bus, or train schedules, though some schedules use other conventions.
The 24-hour clock notation avoids these ambiguities by using 00:00 for midnight at the start of the day and 12:00 for noon. From 23:59:59 the time shifts (one second later) to 00:00:00, the beginning of the next day. In 24-hour notation 24:00 can be used to refer to midnight at the end of a day.
In Britain, various conventions are employed. TV mag, "Sun" newspaper, London, 17 December 2005 uses "noon (12.00)" and "midnight (0.00)" in individual listings. Sequential listings start with a.m. or p.m. as appropriate, but these indicators are not used again, although in sub-listings "12midnight" is sometimes employed. The London Daily Telegraph uses "12.00noon" and "12.00midnight" in individual listings. In sequential listings the first programme to start after 12.00 is marked "am" or "pm" as appropriate. If a station comes on - air at 12.00 the time is marked "12 00 noon". If it goes off - air at 12.00 the time is marked "12.00 midnight
I've caught myself typing "teh", "wood" (instead of "would") and "knot" (instead of "not") on emails lately.
This page contains mature content. By continuing, you confirm you are over 18 and agree to our TOS and User Agreement.