I don't get the benefits of hcg over clomid/nolva IF one's testes have NOT shrunk

[Primordial Performance]

Again, what if you don't need your testes "awoken"? Like, my blood tests showed clomid did that and put my lh - leutenizing hormone - ABOVE normal levels - probably 200% more than I would make on my own.

What about the testes response to FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - ? Does HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - help with that?

And then what about guys on test replacement therapy wanting to have kids? Wouldn't clomid be sufficient in most cases? Or is the testes sensitivity to FSH reduced as well?

If you’ve been on steroids for a long period of time, and didn’t use h CG during the cycle then its likely you will need an “awakening”. Only about 10-20% of the male population can get away with not using hCG on cycle or after, and recover ok withou it. So perhaps in your case you could get away with a clomid only PCT.

h CG mostly mimics LH, but it has minor FSH activity too, and it can keep a man fertile if used concurrently with steroids or HRT.

Clomid wont serve the same purpose during a cycle. I highly doubt it would provide enough LH/FSH stimulation to keep a man fertile during a cycle, and even if it did nobody should be considering clomid for long-term use – it is very toxic stuff.

-Pp

 

[needtogetaas]

lets tag team this bitch...yaaaa

 

[a creed]

I came off after being "on" for a year and 1/2, - all I used was 50mg/day of Clomid for 4 weeks and my "boys" went from "hiding" to full, bouncy, and are working quite well.

I finished the Clomid about 3 weeks ago, and even though I had it - I never used HCG.

I really wanted to see how Clomid alone would work for me (with an AI of course)

 

[needtogetaas]

I came off after being "on" for a year and 1/2, - all I used was 50mg/day of Clomid for 4 weeks and my "boys" went from "hiding" to full, bouncy, and are working quite well.

I finished the Clomid about 3 weeks ago, and even though I had it - I never used HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - .

I really wanted to see how Clomid alone would work for me (with an aromatase inhibitor of course)

some people are lucky.just like some people dont get deca dick or the sides from it that others do...like pp said though its a pretty small amount....

thats awesome though bro that you recovered like that...

 

[Nathan]

I came off after being "on" for a year and 1/2, - all I used was 50mg/day of Clomid for 4 weeks and my "boys" went from "hiding" to full, bouncy, and are working quite well.

I finished the Clomid about 3 weeks ago, and even though I had it - I never used HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - .

I really wanted to see how Clomid alone would work for me (with an aromatase inhibitor of course)

Same experiences with blood tests to prove it, though that was years ago. Maybe it is an individual thing.

What is a "long" period of time being on cycle? Are we talking a couple months or years?

 

[a creed]

Same experiences with blood tests to prove it, though that was years ago. Maybe it is an individual thing.

What is a "long" period of time being on cycle? Are we talking a couple months or years?

I put it in there - 18months..........

 

[Nathan]

I put it in there - 18months..........

Sorry dude, my bad - the duration question was aimed at PP.

 

[needtogetaas]

Same experiences with blood tests to prove it, though that was years ago. Maybe it is an individual thing.

What is a "long" period of time being on cycle? Are we talking a couple months or years?

IMO long cycles are over 12 weeks mainly 14 weeks or more..thats when I start telling people to use hcg during cycle and not after...I still feel during is better even on short cycles but not needed.

 

[holy ghost]

yeah im def going to run it after this one

 

[needtogetaas]

yeah im def going to run it after this one

why not on bro....