Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I'll be doing a cc of sus everyday, 600mg of deca a week, and 100mg of tren everyday for about 14 weeks,starting in about a month, but it's like my 15th cycle I'm 6"2' 260 and 39 years old. I wouldn't recomend high doses for any begginer. 200mg of test and 200mg of deca sounds good for a first one.
I can't stand this bullshit anymore!
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I have to agree with Quadsweep. Its quite sad to see how many losers there are on this board who think they know it all and are offering bad advice to the impressionable. It seems quite a few think they are experts just because they have 600+ posts etc and don't hesitate to flame anyone who disagrees with them. I've just joined the board and have only a few posts so far, but that doesn't mean I am inexperienced. I will only ever offer genuine advice that I think is useful and I'm not afraid to change my viewpoint. This board is about sharing ideas and everybody should be able to ask a question, however stupid. The most helpful memebers of this board have proved time and again they have the maturity, sense and knowledge to offer good advice and also listen without inviting conflict (Mustang_18 to name a few). For all those others with ego problems they should think about the effect they are having on others by the things they say.
a good newbie cycle.
Thanks Real. That is a good idea you have there. I think a good first cycle for an under 190# man would gol ike this:
200mg Test-E per week
200mg Deca or EQ Per week
both run for eight weeks follored by 50mg clomid per day for 3-4 weeks then off for 6-8 weeks. The next cycle could be slightly higher or the same.
Over 190# man:
300mg Test-E per week
300mg Deca or EQ per week.
Same clomid therapy after and same time off and next cycle advice.
I think this would work well for most first time users in each catagory. No sides and decent to really good gains. Hell my first cycle was 250mg sust a week for eight weeks and I gained 27# and kept 18#. I hope this is helpful to someone here.
Realgains said:
Thanks Real. That is a good idea you have there. I think a good first cycle for an under 190# man would gol ike this:
200mg Test-E per week
200mg Deca or EQ Per week
both run for eight weeks follored by 50mg clomid per day for 3-4 weeks then off for 6-8 weeks. The next cycle could be slightly higher or the same.
Over 190# man:
300mg Test-E per week
300mg Deca or EQ per week.
Same clomid therapy after and same time off and next cycle advice.
I think this would work well for most first time users in each catagory. No sides and decent to really good gains. Hell my first cycle was 250mg sust a week for eight weeks and I gained 27# and kept 18#. I hope this is helpful to someone here.
Being and old fart
36..I have to say that weight has alot to do with doses but age also has a tremendous amount of effect on doses, as well as metabolism.
What it comes down to is some people grow great at low doses and other do not,period....So therefore it has to due with there genetic disposition and it is upto each individual to use there head and do research, not to mention blood work prior to cycle.
All these factors affect drug levels in the blood. one can say the half life of test cyp is 6 days so a 500mg shot = 250mg on day 6 so that is what your level is is baloney, it is dependant upon how your particular genetic disposition reacts to that amount and how fast it metabolizes that particular compund. So really the only true way to assertain true levels is to get blood work done and ensure that the drug is dosed correctly.
What it comes down to is people need to research, educate themselves b4 they stick anything into there body, then they need to take all of the recommendations that we all make with a grain of ssalt and understand that there is more to it than 1 gram test 50mg dbol and 600 eq and I will get big....DUH
36..I have to say that weight has alot to do with doses but age also has a tremendous amount of effect on doses, as well as metabolism.
What it comes down to is some people grow great at low doses and other do not,period....So therefore it has to due with there genetic disposition and it is upto each individual to use there head and do research, not to mention blood work prior to cycle.
All these factors affect drug levels in the blood. one can say the half life of test cyp is 6 days so a 500mg shot = 250mg on day 6 so that is what your level is is baloney, it is dependant upon how your particular genetic disposition reacts to that amount and how fast it metabolizes that particular compund. So really the only true way to assertain true levels is to get blood work done and ensure that the drug is dosed correctly.
What it comes down to is people need to research, educate themselves b4 they stick anything into there body, then they need to take all of the recommendations that we all make with a grain of ssalt and understand that there is more to it than 1 gram test 50mg dbol and 600 eq and I will get big....DUH
Re: Being and old fart
you are correct there bro, That is why I get so piised when a newbie posts he is doing this huge cycle and all these assholes say "good cycle" and they don't know shit about him. It is irresponsible plain and simple.
gethard1 said:
you are correct there bro, That is why I get so piised when a newbie posts he is doing this huge cycle and all these assholes say "good cycle" and they don't know shit about him. It is irresponsible plain and simple.
GREAT INFO! LISTEN UP NEWBIE'S AND this thread should be a STICKY!
Quadsweep has just posted newbie cycles that are all but identicle to the recommendations of Guru's William Llewellyn, author of Anabolics 2002, and Dr Scuggs at www.newhopemed.com
THIS IS NO ACCIDENT as Quadsweep knows his stuff! Notice the similarities in in Quadsweeps recommendations to the following quotes.....
NOTE: We should all be concerned about safety and using as little as possible for good gains especially the newbie.
"The safest type of cycle for a man I think would probably be a low 200-400mg weekly dose of test , nandrolone, boldenone or a mix thereof" William Llewellyn
" There are so many ways to use these drugs, but a rough guide for safety/results from my perspective would be 400-600mg weekly of an injectable like test, boldenone, deca, with Nolvadex as an anti- estrogen if one is necessary. I don't dislike Primo, but you do need to add an anti-estrogen to keep HDL up, whereas you can at times get away without it when taking a little test, EQ and Deca" William Llewellyn
" A typical dose would be between 100-200mg of testosterone and the same dose of nandrolone deconate injested every 4 days.It is more than adequate for athletes and all but the most serious hardcoe bodybuilders" Dr. Scuggs www.newhopemed.com
I hope Bill L doesn't mind me taking something out of his book here..... here is a cycle for a newbie that he recommends in his book Anabolics 2002. 10 weeks of EQ at 200 and Test enanthate 250 followed by clomid and H C G . " a great beginners muscle building stack" William Llewellyn Anabolics 2002.
By the way I highly recommend everyone buy Bill L's book Anabolics 2002, as it is very good and would be great for anyone to read, especially the newbie. Got mine at www.mesorx.com and the shipping was free.
Realgains
Quadsweep has just posted newbie cycles that are all but identicle to the recommendations of Guru's William Llewellyn, author of Anabolics 2002, and Dr Scuggs at www.newhopemed.com
THIS IS NO ACCIDENT as Quadsweep knows his stuff! Notice the similarities in in Quadsweeps recommendations to the following quotes.....
NOTE: We should all be concerned about safety and using as little as possible for good gains especially the newbie.
"The safest type of cycle for a man I think would probably be a low 200-400mg weekly dose of test , nandrolone, boldenone or a mix thereof" William Llewellyn
" There are so many ways to use these drugs, but a rough guide for safety/results from my perspective would be 400-600mg weekly of an injectable like test, boldenone, deca, with Nolvadex as an anti- estrogen if one is necessary. I don't dislike Primo, but you do need to add an anti-estrogen to keep HDL up, whereas you can at times get away without it when taking a little test, EQ and Deca" William Llewellyn
" A typical dose would be between 100-200mg of testosterone and the same dose of nandrolone deconate injested every 4 days.It is more than adequate for athletes and all but the most serious hardcoe bodybuilders" Dr. Scuggs www.newhopemed.com
I hope Bill L doesn't mind me taking something out of his book here..... here is a cycle for a newbie that he recommends in his book Anabolics 2002. 10 weeks of EQ at 200 and Test enanthate 250 followed by clomid and H C G . " a great beginners muscle building stack" William Llewellyn Anabolics 2002.
By the way I highly recommend everyone buy Bill L's book Anabolics 2002, as it is very good and would be great for anyone to read, especially the newbie. Got mine at www.mesorx.com and the shipping was free.
Realgains
Just to be exact I need to correct the quaote from Bill L's book.
Above I said 200 of EQ with 250 of test for ten weeks....actually it is 250 of EQ and 250 of test for a total of 500mg per week !
Stay away from those 1000-1500mg recommendations you sometimes here a newbie should take in order to make the most out of his virgin cycle!
Above I said 200 of EQ with 250 of test for ten weeks....actually it is 250 of EQ and 250 of test for a total of 500mg per week !
Stay away from those 1000-1500mg recommendations you sometimes here a newbie should take in order to make the most out of his virgin cycle!
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