I can't stand this bullshit anymore!

[Freak Show]

absolutely phenomenal post, Quadsweep. Big props and best of luck to you.

 

[squat800]

I know what you mean

I heard that Borison lowered lots of the pros doses and they got bigger. I could not stand having a 40hr a week job and taking 1200mg of test a week. My bloodpressure would get really high if I took as much as these people claim. anything that high is like spilt juice I would take lots of deca and exuipoise if it were free

 

[Quadsweep]

Hey Quadsweep, if you don't mind could you take some time and tell me what made you choose A.C.E. over other certs ie. NFPT, ISSA, I.A.R.T? I am currently looking to get certified but there are a shitload of different programs and I am not sure which one to go with or if it even matters. Also did you take any other course of study realated to nutrition and BB?

It was the most popular and one of the few around when I got certified (1993) I do not think it matters as long as you can say you are certified for insurance and so people know you are serious enough to put at least a little effort in to your profession. As far as other studies...no I just read a lot on subjects pertaining to my field.

Peace

 

[GARAGE GORILLA]

Thanks for the input Quadsweep.

 

[Quadsweep]

Thanks for the input Quadsweep.

No problem. I really do want to help people out and keep them from hurting themselves from bad advice.

Peace

 

[CalifMadDog]

Ditto bro's .....check out one of my old posts. Said the same thing. If you added it all up they would be shooting 3 times a day unless they have a 10cc syringe. What ya going to do???????????

 

[Ulter]

I agree if you're not going to take the time to train and eat right while bulking you shouldn't use well dosed cycles. You shouldn't be on any cycle. But if you are willing to put in the time and effort is takes to grow, really grow, then using less than 1500mg total a week is a waste of needles. Anyone who thinks they will grow the same on 500mg/wk of sust as they will on 1000mg/wk of test with 600mg of eq is delusional.
M.O.D. receptor down regulation is a myth and no one has proven otherwise.
You go ahead and pat yourself on the back about how smart you are doing low dose cycles. The fact is it is not any smarter to do low doses if you are going to cycle. The only difference between using 500mg and 1500mg is gains. Myself and all my friends who have done this 10 years longer than you have do not have ANY health problems, period. So you may justify your thinking by contriving illnesses that well dosed cycles cause, but it is only to make yourself feel better about your choice to use less. It is not base in any fact or science. In the mean time those who do well dosed cycles will blow by you in size and strength, even though they don't possess great genetics.

OXOXOXOX

 

[Quadsweep]

I agree if you're not going to take the time to train and eat right while bulking you shouldn't use well dosed cycles. You shouldn't be on any cycle. But if you are willing to put in the time and effort is takes to grow, really grow, then using less than 1500mg total a week is a waste of needles. Anyone who thinks they will grow the same on 500mg/wk of sust as they will on 1000mg/wk of test with 600mg of eq is delusional.
M.O.D. receptor down regulation is a myth and no one has proven otherwise.
You go ahead and pat yourself on the back about how smart you are doing low dose cycles. The fact is it is not any smarter to do low doses if you are going to cycle. The only diffe


between using 500mg and 1500mg is gains. Myself and all my friends who have done this 10 years longer than you have do not have ANY health problems, period. So you may justify your thinking by contriving illnesses that well dosed cycles cause, but it is only to make yourself feel better about your choice to use less. It is not base in any fact or science. In the mean time those who do well dosed cycles will blow by you in size and strength, even though they don't possess great genetics.



OXOXOXOX

Could you please post a picture so I can see what your extremely effective cycles have accomolished for you? You talk as if you are pro caliber. I am not saying high dosage cycles do not cause more growth . I am saying a first time user does not need a huge dose. I use 1000mg or better from time to time but I weigh 235# at 6.5% and I am 5'7" tall & have been using for almost 10 years. Also all drugs down regulate, even your own insulin does. I.E. Type 2 diabeties so it is not a myth. I am saying that when a newbie says he is doing 2 grams a week don't say "good cycle!" and I never go over 1200mgs and I compete and am ranked nationally so I don't think it was a waste of needles. If you think diffrent dispute me at the USA! M.O.D. is a good bro. He is a voice of reason. Show some respect.

xoxoxoxox back at you!

 

[Ulter]

I am 45yrs old 6'0 218 and pics are posted, though I don't owe you a pic. I am not a competitor and I couldn't care less about it. It's nice for you that you have great genetics. None of that has ANYTHING to do with this discussion. How YOU react to a particular AS or the dose of it is only that, how YOU react, not the rest of the world. If your whole argument of dosing is based on YOUR size then this is even more ridiculous than I first thought. Diet and training are a great influence on how big some one is but they don't take the place of genetics, only AS can even that field and if both are on the same AS then genetics wins again.
I did not disrespect M.O.D. in any way.

 

[spentagn]

Also all drugs down regulate, even your own insulin does. I.E. Type 2 diabeties so it is not a myth.

Not to get too involved in this spat, as I respect and like people arguing both sides, but if you're gonna preach about diabetes, at least know the correct terminology. Types 1&2 are out of date terms. They are now referred to as NIDDM and IDDM, respectively.