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I can't stand this bullshit anymore!

Man I am sorry to hear that. What do they do for that in the meantime?


GaryWary said:


The above is likely to happen to me anyway - recurrent bladder cancer...

But M.O.D is right. The advice on this site is hardcore to the extreme. I know big guys that are shocked by what is often advocated here... I am actually going to embark on a much more moderate cycle for cycle no.2. Cycle no.1 featured 500mg test per 8/9 days and 15 to 20mg dbol per day.. I think this is too much! I am going to see what 250 test per week (you read right!) plus 20mg dbol per day for one month cycles does (one month on, 2 months off). I know you will say that test takes a month to kick in - but that is conflicting to other information that states that test levels are at peak within a few days of test (sust, omna, testo, etc)?!
 
Citruscide Most guys need 1000mg or more to see any significant/sustained growth. There are those that are genetically gifted who will grow just looking at a syringe of test but that is not the norm.

I can't help notice that none of the other vets have even bothered to post to this thread. The idea of using 200mg of test/deca for a cycle is so ridiculous that I am guessing they aren't wasting their time. I thought if I jumped on to tell you that your wrong some of the other might follow suit. Guess not.
To be honest I probably woundn't have posted to this either. I'm not sure why I did.
 
ulter said:
Citruscide Most guys need 1000mg or more to see any significant/sustained growth. There are those that are genetically gifted who will grow just looking at a syringe of test but that is not the norm.

I can't help notice that none of the other vets have even bothered to post to this thread. The idea of using 200mg of test/deca for a cycle is so ridiculous that I am guessing they aren't wasting their time. I thought if I jumped on to tell you that your wrong some of the other might follow suit. Guess not.
To be honest I probably woundn't have posted to this either. I'm not sure why I did.

Hey bro, I just want to say I know this is a low dose and I use much, much higher doses now after nine years of use. but my point is you can not know what your response is untill you try it. If you go gonzo first time out you never would know. I am not a freak but I gained 27# off 250mg of sust a week for 8 weeks and from what I have read I am not alone. I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree which is cool.

Peace
 
So where would guy with 2 yrs. of use under his belt be at as for as types and amounts. As of yesturday i was 5'8", 235 @ 11%. I competed for the first time in a NQ mar 2001 as a lt. hvy. wt. (188 lbs at weigh-in). Took 3rd out of 11 guys so I was happy. Since then I been training with the intent of wanting to eventually compete as a legitimate hvy wt. Everything I've used as been slowly increased with time over the last two years. Would just like to get some input from the competitors as to where a guy with my stats should be as far as types of gear and amounts. Thread replies or PM's would be greatly aprreciated. And yes I'm new to the boards so I have no problem shutting up and just listening to what everyone has to say.
 
SDRaver said:
So where would guy with 2 yrs. of use under his belt be at as for as types and amounts. As of yesturday i was 5'8", 235 @ 11%. I competed for the first time in a NQ mar 2001 as a lt. hvy. wt. (188 lbs at weigh-in). Took 3rd out of 11 guys so I was happy. Since then I been training with the intent of wanting to eventually compete as a legitimate hvy wt. Everything I've used as been slowly increased with time over the last two years. Would just like to get some input from the competitors as to where a guy with my stats should be as far as types of gear and amounts. Thread replies or PM's would be greatly aprreciated. And yes I'm new to the boards so I have no problem shutting up and just listening to what everyone has to say.

What have your previous cycles looked like?
 
1st 8 week cycle ever:jan 2000
200mgs decca/week
250 mgs sust/ week

2nd cycle:
200 mgs of EQ/week
150 mgs? Winny/week
used all they typical stuff but in small amounts because I wasn't even really lifting much but lots of mixed martial arts training. My roomate had tons of gear left over from his bodybuliding days but crossed over to fighting. would give me gear in exchange for rent. Now I've crossed over to BB and I'm taking it seriously.
Anything I've used I've slowly increased with each use. as far as test the most i've recently used is 1000 mgs/week. this has been built up over the last two years from 250/week and upwards. the worst sides I've ever had from any use is some pimples and a little tenderness in the nipples. I don't waqnt to keep rambling but if I need to be more specific about anything let me know. I still consider myself a newbie
 
good night!!!! will this post ever go away....Oh well I'll bump it for Quad and SD Raver.....
 
muscleup said:
good night!!!! will this post ever go away....Oh well I'll bump it for Quad and SD Raver.....


might as well keep it going...i would never take more than 400 mg a week of test but i have a low tolerance and for me that is a lot and i get great results from it....
 
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