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I barely cum! Brothers! Please advice me on what to do.

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I've been on HRT now for a while. I can have sex. But when I cum. Well...it kind of sucks. Sucks for me....more for my wife. LOL I ejaculate, but not very much. And if I go again and cum, almost nothing comes out. :-(

I have to wait a couple of days just to be able to ejaculate "something".

How can I improve this? Some will say to take Clomid. But I tried that before and all it does is make my vision terrible. Makes me a little dizzy. And somewhat kills my desire for sex. So why bother taking it.

I eat a lot. I sleep well. I drink lots of water. And I take HCG at 300mgs 2x a week (HRT doses). But the HCG doesn't help in creating more load size.

So whats next? What can I do?

Has anyone ever heard and/or used of HMG? Maybe this drug will help???
 
How long has this been going on? What did you start taking which might have cause this to happen? You need to trace back and check things out. Im on HRT as well as HCG neither 1 has anything to do with the amount of sperm. I've hear clomid might help but again dont know what youre taking.
 
Hahaha shooting drips happens to me on cycle all the time hcgenerate and novadex xt always make me nice and plump and shoot nice loads... honestly though unless you're pulling out and like to watch yourself shoot a load all over her like a porn star the sensation of orgasm is just the same
 
I disagree.. Orgasm for me has always been better when I have been able to shoot longer, larger loads..
HCGenerate might help you out.

I am surprised your loads are so low on HCG..
 
If you have been on HRT for an extended period of time, say years, and your doses have been very high, then you might not be able to fix this. I would talk to your doc. Based on your other threads, your doses have been very high for HRT. A normal HRT dose is 150 to 200mg/week (sometimes 100mg). Running 400mg+ for extended periods of time does a lot to the body.
 
My HRT dose is 100mgs of Test per week. HCG at 300ius 2x a week. And DHEA at 125mgs per day (this brings my DHEA levels to 500 and the range is between 150-700.

How long has this been happening? For years now. Ever since I screwed up my HPTA. When I get blood work done. My FSH and LH show up at fucking 0!

Isn't FSH needed in order to create more load? HCG only mimics LH.

This is what I asked about HMG which does give FSH and LH.
 
Gamer2Be08 said:
I disagree.. Orgasm for me has always been better when I have been able to shoot longer, larger loads..
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It's all in the head... sex is way better on then off period!
 
C.K. said:
It's all in the head... sex is way better on then off period!
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Not in the head...
I think I know my body LMAO..
 
I HIGHLY suggest HCGenerate and Unleashed together at high dose for a first two weeks ,then trim down to a reg. dose.
IMO, for me I was having problems going and little also while on HRT. I would take 5 caps of HCGenerate and 3 caps of Unleashed a day for 1.5 weeks and let me tell you, it did something to me and those 2 products are no bullshit!! Lots of hype out there but these are diamonds!!

needtobuiildmuscle.com and get it fast, they are like the wind, they blow and go away fast. I reallt think these 2 products will help you. YOu may also want to consult with ND2 also on the issue, he is wise.
 
Carth said:
My HRT dose is 100mgs of Test per week. HCG at 300ius 2x a week. And DHEA at 125mgs per day (this brings my DHEA levels to 500 and the range is between 150-700.

How long has this been happening? For years now. Ever since I screwed up my HPTA. When I get blood work done. My FSH and LH show up at fucking 0!

Isn't FSH needed in order to create more load? HCG only mimics LH.

This is what I asked about HMG which does give FSH and LH.
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You probably need to use a little more HCG. On TRT my LH/FSH was at 0 as well. I was using 250iu HCG twice a week and my loads were decent.

You might need more stimulation to the testicles. Maybe you're desensitized and 300iu isn't enough.

How's the sack? Hanging low always or tight? Are your testicles hard or soft?

How are your pregnenolone levels? A sign of insufficient LH could be a big drop in pregenelone (since it is required when converting preg from cholesterol). This would likely create a drop in cortisol, which would also cause problems with thyroid metabolism (T3 needs cortisol to get into cells). I noticed you had a thyroid thread as well... perhaps this is why you don't feel a benefit from thyroid meds.

What is your average body temperature?

This is one of the many reasons why TRT isn't necessarily a "god send" like a lot of people think. So much more management is involved after even 1 year of TRT. I don't recommend it unless you HAVE to be on it.
 
Some people on TRT even opt to raise T levels by using primarily HCG versus testosterone. Or more HCG and less direct testosterone.
 
Running HCG for long peroids of time does more harm than good. I would stop now and do as the emperor has said add some HCGenerate /unleashed ,remember it took a while to mess up your HPTA so it will take awhile for it to regulate itself!
 
tical said:
You probably need to use a little more HCG. On TRT my LH/FSH was at 0 as well. I was using 250iu HCG twice a week and my loads were decent.

You might need more stimulation to the testicles. Maybe you're desensitized and 300iu isn't enough.

How's the sack? Hanging low always or tight? Are your testicles hard or soft?

How are your pregnenolone levels? A sign of insufficient LH could be a big drop in pregenelone (since it is required when converting preg from cholesterol). This would likely create a drop in cortisol, which would also cause problems with thyroid metabolism (T3 needs cortisol to get into cells). I noticed you had a thyroid thread as well... perhaps this is why you don't feel a benefit from thyroid meds.

What is your average body temperature?

This is one of the many reasons why TRT isn't necessarily a "god send" like a lot of people think. So much more management is involved after even 1 year of TRT. I don't recommend it unless you HAVE to be on it.
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Sack is hanging and balls are firm. Preg levels? That I don't know. Doc never checked for that.
 
A couple of things...

I think you're using HCG too often.

Clomid will make the situation worse.

UNLEASHED will help.

What's your estro? That's a big factor in how much you ejaculate.
 
Nelson Montana said:
A couple of things...

I think you're using HCG too often.

Clomid will make the situation worse.

UNLEASHED will help.

What's your estro? That's a big factor in how much you ejaculate.
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I stopped taking HCG for a while. And it didn't help at all. Estrogen is actually right smack in the middle.
 
Nelson Montana said:
It won't necessarrily help right away. I just think it exasperated the problem.
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I'm having a similar problem , so what should we take while on a test cycle to increase volume? Ive heard so much conflicting info I have no idea what to try , in order to get my volume back?
 
Arabian said:
I'm having a similar problem , so what should we take while on a test cycle to increase volume? Ive heard so much conflicting info I have no idea what to try , in order to get my volume back?
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HCG
HCGenerate
Sustain Alpha Transdermal
 
Arabian said:
I'm having a similar problem , so what should we take while on a test cycle to increase volume? Ive heard so much conflicting info I have no idea what to try , in order to get my volume back?
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did you ever order that hcg or hcgenerate? These are the only two things that help my load size while on. When my loads are lacking a 250-500iu shot of hcg has them big and bad within a few days or so.
 
Gamer2Be08 said:
I disagree.. Orgasm for me has always been better when I have been able to shoot longer, larger loads..
HCGenerate might help you out.

I am surprised your loads are so low on HCG..
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+1. Load size has a HUGE impact on orgasm.
 
1500 said:
+1. Load size has a HUGE impact on orgasm.
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Yup!
I get disappointed when load size is low, then orgasm is sub par..
 
if you're on TRT you need HCG weekly. Don't stop HCG unless you want your balls to atrophy. You already see your LH/FSH levels are at 0. If you stop taking HCG there is practically no more stimulation to the testes. 250iu twice a week is standard LIFELONG dosing for those on TRT.

Like I said in an earlier post, some respond just fine (with less problems down the chain) by using HCG monotherapy to raise T levels versus t cyp (or a combination of the two). This is something you should consider doing as it appears that your testicles either aren't functioning properly or you're not stimulating them enough.
 
tical said:
if you're on TRT you need HCG weekly. Don't stop HCG unless you want your balls to atrophy. You already see your LH/FSH levels are at 0. If you stop taking HCG there is practically no more stimulation to the testes. 250iu twice a week is standard LIFELONG dosing for those on TRT.

Like I said in an earlier post, some respond just fine (with less problems down the chain) by using HCG monotherapy to raise T levels versus t cyp (or a combination of the two). This is something you should consider doing as it appears that your testicles either aren't functioning properly or you're not stimulating them enough.
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Unless he goes ahead and PCTs
 
Gamer2Be08 said:
Unless he goes ahead and PCTs
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Exactly.

A restart could be worth a shot with a long PCT. I'm talking around 6 months of clomid therapy. The reason for the length is because you want to work out of any atrophy, etc.

This is difficult for many psychologically. If they're convinced they *NEED* testosterone then they are not likely to even attempt a PCT to go natural.

But imagine how many other things could just fall into place if you were able to recover your natural hormone balance.

By introducing testosterone you're interfering with many other hormones downstream. Just the cessation of LH/FSH from testosterone supplementation is enough to prevent significant conversion of cholesterol to pregnenolone. For those of you that don't know, pregnenolone is the "mother" hormone that all other hormones are produced from. It's the first steroid hormone (in a chain) we produce (from cholesterol).

This can all contribute to low sex hormones, low stress hormones (adrenal fatigue), impaired thyroid metabolism (hypothyroidism and/or high RT3), impaired neurological function, hypoglycemia, etc.

One thing for everyone that always wants to be on and hates the idea of PCT (because it's the end of a cycle), even during PCT you will have test levels above the normal range due to the high levels of LH the clomid will stimulate.

Anyone using a reasonable amount of clomid (with functional testicles) could get some bloodwork 2-3 weeks into their PCT and see that their testosterone levels are likely in the 800-900s+. Some people even cycle with JUST clomid.

And being "off" is not always bad. Many people function just fine with test levels in the 300-400s.

What a lot of people don't consider is the free/bio available testosterone. You can have high T but high SHBG/Albumin and end up with lower free testosterone (the good stuff) than someone with t levels in the 300s.

Kind of got off track there, but there is a misconception that always being on is great and this isn't necessarily true. The (healthy) body will strive for balance.
 
1500 said:
did you ever order that hcg or hcgenerate? These are the only two things that help my load size while on. When my loads are lacking a 250-500iu shot of hcg has them big and bad within a few days or so.
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Yes and I just Pmed you.
 
I would PCT..
They have that new drug that you inject that restarts you real quick now, forgot what it is called.
 
If it hasn't already been mentioned you might want to go to RXHealth sponsor here and add some HMG with your HCG.
 
Any of you guys ever try HMG?

BTW....Ive done PCT many times. Various protocols and for long periods of time. And nothing has restored me.
 
Carth said:
Any of you guys ever try HMG?

BTW....Ive done PCT many times. Various protocols and for long periods of time. And nothing has restored me.
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If HMG is anything like HCG, you wont recover...
HCG and items like that should be used only to restore atrophy and then once atrophy is restored, SERM, AI and OTC aid products should be used for 4-6 weeks.
 
Yeah but HMG helps with load size. And I think this may have something to do with my libido. Because to be honest, my balls as of late don't get that "achy and dull" feeling for sex. As IF they were completely empty. Know what I mean?
 
ejaculation is directly related to serotonin levels. If you are on any drugs that increase serotonin levels like antidepressants then lowering the serotonin is the answer. Cyproheptadine 4mg is used to lower the serotonin. Also, don't laugh, vibratory stimulation of the anus helps ejaculation in males.....just sayin
 
footdoc said:
ejaculation is directly related to serotonin levels. If you are on any drugs that increase serotonin levels like antidepressants then lowering the serotonin is the answer. Cyproheptadine 4mg is used to lower the serotonin. Also, don't laugh, vibratory stimulation of the anus helps ejaculation in males.....just sayin
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If you lower your serotonin , will that not make you depressed? Im very interested in this . because Im on my cycle and Im having trouble with volume as well, and I do not know what to get to increase it.
 
Sustain Alpha Transdermal after about 4 days increases volume and gives me a sex drive back. It has worked several times for me. worth a try!
 
tical said:
This is one of the many reasons why TRT isn't necessarily a "god send" like a lot of people think. So much more management is involved after even 1 year of TRT. I don't recommend it unless you HAVE to be on it.
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X2

too many guys fall victim to this because they weren't patient when cycling (either ran too long a cycle or didn't cycle off long enough or both) and their HPTA's suffered.
 
Carth said:
Yeah but HMG helps with load size. And I think this may have something to do with my libido. Because to be honest, my balls as of late don't get that "achy and dull" feeling for sex. As IF they were completely empty. Know what I mean?
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That's the feeling I get when I use Clomid.
 
Arabian said:
If you lower your serotonin , will that not make you depressed? Im very interested in this . because Im on my cycle and Im having trouble with volume as well, and I do not know what to get to increase it.
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It just lowers it for a few hours so it will not affect your depression. Believe me serotonin is a key factor in ejaculation
 
What I told Tical. I think I'm having a DHT problem. Because the ONLY time I feel super great. IN ALL ASPECTS! Is when I use proviron. I wasn't getting the same feeling while on masteron. Masteron didn't let me sleep. Was up and alert but didnt' feel much joy or pleasure. Erections were possible. But the desire for sex was not there! Everything just seems to work and work correctly while I'm on proviron.
 
Maybe you are very estrogen sensitive and the fluxuations between T shots and HCG are too severe for your body. For example, if you shoot 100mg of T on Thursday, your estrogen is going to be at it's highest Thur/Fri/Sat and start to come down. Then you're using HCG which would again bump up estrogen.

Proviron is known for it's anti estrogenic activity (binds to the receptor but doesn't do anything). It's popular for libido boosting and (possibly) binding to aromatose so that testosterone can't bind to it (and convert to E), theoretically leaving more T in the body.

If proviron helps you drastically, maybe you should look into better estrogen management. This can be achieved by increasing the frequency of your T injections, in smaller amounts. For example, 30mg EOD or something to that effect. This would prevent large waves of estrogen conversion.

Too high estrogen can kill libido. Too low estrogen can also kill libido. So even if you're using arimidex or aromasin, it's a tricky balancing act.

I believe you said you use Aromasin. You might want to switch over to Arimidex to allow you for better control. Aromasin kills the enzyme responsible for the conversion of T to E, and your body has to regenerate enzymes before any conversion can happen - depending on the person this might not happen very fast. Arimidex simply competes at the enzyme level, inhibiting conversion (but doesn't kill the aromatose enzyme).

This way if you need to adjust your dose, you can do so effectively rather quickly.
 
tical said:
Maybe you are very estrogen sensitive and the fluxuations between T shots and HCG are too severe for your body. For example, if you shoot 100mg of T on Thursday, your estrogen is going to be at it's highest Thur/Fri/Sat and start to come down. Then you're using HCG which would again bump up estrogen.

Proviron is known for it's anti estrogenic activity (binds to the receptor but doesn't do anything). It's popular for libido boosting and (possibly) binding to aromatose so that testosterone can't bind to it (and convert to E), theoretically leaving more T in the body.

If proviron helps you drastically, maybe you should look into better estrogen management. This can be achieved by increasing the frequency of your T injections, in smaller amounts. For example, 30mg EOD or something to that effect. This would prevent large waves of estrogen conversion.

Too high estrogen can kill libido. Too low estrogen can also kill libido. So even if you're using arimidex or aromasin, it's a tricky balancing act.

I believe you said you use Aromasin. You might want to switch over to Arimidex to allow you for better control. Aromasin kills the enzyme responsible for the conversion of T to E, and your body has to regenerate enzymes before any conversion can happen - depending on the person this might not happen very fast. Arimidex simply competes at the enzyme level, inhibiting conversion (but doesn't kill the aromatose enzyme).

This way if you need to adjust your dose, you can do so effectively rather quickly.
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When I was taking Aromasin it dropped my E levels to right smack in the middle. My HRT doc was impressed and suggested that I keep taking the same dose of Aromasin in order to maintain my E at that level.

But like I said, I noticed I became flat, dull and boring. I had less interest in things.

When I take Dbol (which we all know increases E like crazy). I would say I'm at my VERY best mood possible. I want to do it all! Everything is great! Everything is of interest to me. The downside...I get REALLY fat and bloated. LOL

I really do NOT like to give myself EOD injections. I get all scarred up and build up tissue quick. 2 intramuscular shots a week is all I will do.

What protocol of HCG and Test Cyp (125mgs a week) do you suggest I do then? Maybe I shouldn't be taking HCG 2 days in a row. Perhaps I should split it up? Mondays and Thursdays?
 
So what are you taking now? Aromasin or Arimidex? How much?

If estrogen management is the issue the only way you're going to achieve greater control is by doing more frequent injections. There really is no way around that unless you want to switch to transdermals (maybe even pellets). You can use smaller gauge needles. One person I know injects T EOD using a 27 gauge insulin pin. I believe drawing the T into the syringe is a problem, so he backfills.

Is there any particular day of the week you feel better (even a little)? Like maybe the evening after a T shot or HCG?

DBOL might increase estrogen but it is also a very androgenic steroid which is probably why you respond so well to it. Perhaps your androgen receptors aren't as sensitive anymore.


Do you by any chance use any opiates? Lortab, Vicodin, Oxy, Morphine, Heroin, etc?
 
I don't use any opiates. And that is something I thought about a few times for the past 5 years. What the fuck happened to me? Maybe I'm not sensitive to androgens anymore? Same question.

Take here. If I take Tren. I get harder and more pumped. But NOT as hard and pumped as others on Tren. While some even get elevated BP on it. Me? Nothing!

Masteron. I've used it before. Last time was maybe 5 years ago. I don't remember how I felt. But I do remember my physique. I got nothing what others said I would. I get more out of Tren if anything. With Masteron, all I remember was being bigger and fuller and a little bit more strength.

Halo. Ive taken Halo in the most common HIGH dose ( don't remember what that is ). Did I get hard and freaky like everyone says it does? Nope! I got harder! Not MUCH harder. No nose bleeds. No crazy agitated aggression. Nothing!

The same for Proviron. Everyone says on how hard they get! And they lose water and look more defined etc etc. Me? All it does is make me feel more manly. More normal. Hard and veiny while dropping water???? No way! For me...it just looks as IF I have increased my Test dose from 125mgs per week to maybe 500-750mgs per week. Without "further" adding more water weight. But the water weight and fat remain. Crazy erections happening at the wrong times? Used too! Now, it just helps give me MUCH BETTER morning wood. And it helps in getting it up for sex MUCH faster and easily. However! Sad to say. It doesn't keep it up for the whole duration of sex. And the erections are not at it's fullest. I would say maybe 85%-90% instead of its full 100%.

Tren does the same thing for me. It's goodness only lasts for about 2 weeks. After that, I can still get an erection and maintain it at 100%. But the desire to actually have sex are a little low. And the joy and orgasm from sex are almost non-existent.

Masteron (since I've been using it the last couple of weeks) has done the same to me as if it were Tren.

It just seems as if Test alone just isn't enough for me. So yeah. Maybe I have become desensitized to androgens. And because of that, I now require potent androgens just to get a normal effect.

BTW...just wanted to throw this in. I have done blood work many times while ON and OFF proviron. And never once has my E levels been lowered while on Proviron. So I truly do NOT understand how some claim it to be somewhat of an AI or anti-estrogen and helps in decreasing aromatization. It's not true.
 
Just a heads up. Been using proviron now at 100mgs per day for the last 2 weeks. And everything is back in order once again. I'm feeling better. Waking up feeling fine. Waking up with erections. Have sex and cum like a normal man does. Damn me! WTF?! Now I need proviron just to live a normal life?! Shit! :-(
 
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