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How to combat var joint pain?

rykertest

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I love var, works very well for ME. However it makes my knees and shoulders quite sore about 1 week into a decent cycle. What can I take (other than just advil or tylenol) to make combat they side effect? Thanks.
 
flex229 said:
glucosamine/chondroitin/msm

can be found at any walgreens or walmart

I should of mentioned I have been taking that on this as well as a previous cycle and it didn't really do anything. It may of helped a little but the pain gets to where I can't workout with any sort of beneficial intensity. I know a good amount about the compounds I use but I don't have any idea why var makes my joints hurt. Is is dehydrating to that extent? Thanks everyone.
 
man, if i were you, i'd just cut out the anavar..

ive never heard of that side effect from anavar before. you sure youre not taking winstrol?
 
flex229 said:
man, if i were you, i'd just cut out the anavar..

ive never heard of that side effect from anavar before. you sure youre not taking winstrol?

I'm positive it's real not fake gear. I've heard more than a few guys talk about that side effect.
 
Sensational said:
I always used to take Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - or Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - for joint pain, but that was 3-4 years ago before I came back to "the game".

Yeah eq is GREAT for my joints. I feel like I've got airbags in my joints...love it. I'm not running it this time and the var is interferring with my workouts. I may just end up dropping it.
 
Cryptlord said:
This is strange, from what ive read, anavar should actually increase collegen strength.


Yes it does do that. But I don't know if that is related to the pain. It just feels achey more so in my shoulders.
 
i did anavar 50 mg ed and never had any joint pain. i guess everyone reacts differently to different compounds.
 
Thread Summary:

anavar is making my joints hurt

eq helped last time

what can I take

EQ

but I dont wanna

- lol

I think we're confusing "increasing collagen" with "increasing joint lubrication".

the former is a long-term therapy, and yes var,eq,deca,primo all promote healthy collagen.

the latter is short-term fix, and as far as i know nandrolone in the form of deca (and to a lesser extent npp) is the only a.as to increase joint lubrication. here the fix is almost immediate but illusory. nandrolones temporarily increase synovial fluid which lubricates the joints and masks whatever mechanical problem exists.

also as far as I know, only winny decreases synovial fluid production. never heard var to do that, tho they're both dht derived. (havent researched the var part).

so one explanation for your situation is that the reason ur var+eq cycle was painfree was that THAT var was real, and the lack of pain had nothing to do with the EQ. BUT, ur current var may be low dose winny. similar effects, and cheaper for the dealer.

in any event, as a fix you might try low dose deca (100mg wk?) and titrate till you get relief, or some otc supps like Biocell II from vitaminshoppe which contains chondroiten, collagen II, and hyaluronic acid.
 
Anavar does not casue those problems. ITs actully given in Burn ICU patients to help them heal quicker and for other reasons...Holla
 
Mavafanculo said:
Thread Summary:

anavar is making my joints hurt

Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - helped last time

what can I take

EQ

but I dont wanna

- lol

I think we're confusing "increasing collagen" with "increasing joint lubrication".

the former is a long-term therapy, and yes Anavar - oxandrolone - ,Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ,Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ,Primobolan - methenolone - all promote healthy collagen.

the latter is short-term fix, and as far as i know nandrolone in the form of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - (and to a lesser extent NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - ) is the only a.as to increase joint lubrication. here the fix is almost immediate but illusory. nandrolones temporarily increase synovial fluid which lubricates the joints and masks whatever mechanical problem exists.

also as far as I know, only Winstrol - stanozolol decreases synovial fluid production. never heard Anavar - oxandrolone - to do that, tho they're both dihydrotestosterone derived. (havent researched the Anavar - oxandrolone - part).

so one explanation for your situation is that the reason ur Anavar - oxandrolone - +Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - cycle was painfree was that THAT Anavar - oxandrolone - was real, and the lack of pain had nothing to do with the EQ. BUT, ur current Anavar - oxandrolone - may be low dose Winstrol - stanozolol. similar effects, and cheaper for the dealer.

in any event, as a fix you might try low dose Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - (100mg wk?) and titrate till you get relief, or some otc supps like Biocell II from vitaminshoppe which contains chondroiten, collagen II, and hyaluronic acid.


This is an awesome post.

I agree that he was probably given low dosed Winstrol.
 
rykertest said:
OK, nevermind guys. It is Anavar - oxandrolone - I am sure of this. Thanks for everyones "help".

bro, whatever the reason for the pain, there's reccomendations on what to use to alliviate it in the posts above.

p.s. unless you had the stuff tested, there's no way you'd be able to tell in the short-term other than by clinical "symptoms", and based on the joint pain symptom...

(long-term, generally speaking you'd be facially prettier with better hair at the end of your var cycle, and facially uglier with drier hair at the end of your winny cycle lol)
 
I'm running 40mg/day of Var myself and the same thing is happening to me. Once I get to the higher weight on my bench I cant seem to work out as intense because my shoulders and elbows are killing me. Started about 2 weeks into my cycle of Var. I opened a ticket with the supplier to ask if there was any way they could have mixed up the var with winstrol in their pill press and they said that would not be possible. I'm kind of bummed because when I did a cycle of winny a couple of years ago the pain was too distracting, thats why I spent the extra cash on the var to avoid this side. Someone said test also has an effect on joints by messing up collagen synthesis but I've been on test for a few years and have never noticed this. So I am at a lost to what is causing the joint pain, and I too want to believe the var is real, but who knows
 
Mavafanculo said:
bro, whatever the reason for the pain, there's reccomendations on what to use to alliviate it in the posts above.

p.s. unless you had the stuff tested, there's no way you'd be able to tell in the short-term other than by clinical "symptoms", and based on the joint pain symptom...

(long-term, generally speaking you'd be facially prettier with better hair at the end of your Anavar - oxandrolone - cycle, and facially uglier with drier hair at the end of your Winstrol - stanozolol cycle lol)


Yes there are reccomendations but not ones that fit into what I'm doing. I don't solve a problem by just taking more gear, thats just ignorant. I try and solve the problem by figuring out what the problem is. Thats like saying my car is not steering right and just start changing suspension parts without figuring out what exact part of that system is not working right. I know it's easy to just say "your gear is bunk or you got ripped off man" but I am 100% positive my gear is legit. I'm not going to go into details of how I know that I just do. Thats not ego talking because if I wasn't positive like I am, I would want to know if I was ripped off.

While I appreciate those that want to help, just assuming I got ripped off or I'm an idiot isn't much help. (Not you personally but some posts just state it's bunk gear and thats that)

I like to know WHY things are happening. I see knowing/learning about how the gear works and why something is or is not working as the wise course of action. I'm not the only one that has had this side effect, but we are all different so that would stand to reason.

Again to those of you that took the time to reply I do appreciate it, but I guess you guys don't get this side effect and I do and thats the way it is I guess. Thank you again.
 
fair enough. and an example of how to disagree without being disagreeable. kudos.

you asked what to take, in addition to some gear reccomendations (d.eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin) there are also some supp reccs (chondroiten, hyaluronic acid, collagen II, etc, and i should also add MSM and glucosamine).

keep us updated.

M
 
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