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How much gains should I be making every month

Nothing wrong with sandwiches. They can be an easy way to get in quality food, but considering so many guy's opinion of a good sammich is white bread and processed cheese slices then definitely not.

Some good whole grain bread, real meat, cheese and lettuce/tomatoe is good muscle building food.
 
Squats & Deadlifts should be very important exercises for hormones release and increasing your test.

Also, dont train to failure all the time, and if you insist on going to failure, do it in the last set only. Doing it in every set will overtrain you and cause a huge stress on your nervous system.
 
Well there's your answer. Awful routine and poor diet. I ate more than that when I was cutting last year. And the less said about your routine the better (but I can't help it: why are you only training one half of your body?)

The best advice I can possibly give is an old internet forum cliche: do Rippetoe's Starting Strength programme and drink a gallon of milk a day. But you will need to sort out your diet. Work out your macros, and eat proper meals every 3-4 hours (not sandwiches). NEVER miss breakfast.

lol well I am 17 and I have to wake up and make my lunch before school starts as well as alot of things. I'm sure you were 17 at one point and realize what its like.

as for my training routine Besides doing powerlifts like stronglifts suggests. There is no other kind of workout? The jacked guy doing db chest presses has a horrible training routine?

For the leg thing its because I play a lot of soccer and have always felt my legs were a lot stronger than my upper body ( I know they are suppose to be but mine was out ridiculous )

So thanks for the tips but I seriously just cant make nice meals full of the nutrients needed. Maybe when i get home though
 
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lol @ being 17 as an excuse for not having time to make a meal... im 30, work 50+ hours a week, take care of my kids, make time to service the wife AND have plenty of time to make whatever meals i need...
just look at ExtraMile's log... he is 15 years old and has no problem doing this... its just you are being lazy and wanting to get big as easy as possible, without putting in the hard work...
building muscle takes time, this is not somthing that happens overnight... you have a lot of work to put in, but you are young and have plenty of time...
 
lol well I am 17 and I half to wake up and make my lunch before school starts as well as alot of things. I'm sure you were 17 at one point and realize what its like.

Yeah I remember being 17, I had virtually no financial worries or responsibility and I had shit loads of free time! I am now 23, I am a lawyer and like moya above I often work 50 hours a week. I don't have kids but I have a lot more responsibility and a lot less free time than I did when I was 17 and in school, and I still have time to make all my meals.

Here's an idea, make your lunch the night before, so you don't have to get up any earlier. Or better yet, cook in bulk on Sunday night, make a big bunch of meals. Throw a portion/meal into a tupperware container the night before and just grab it on your way to school in the morning. Being 17 is simply not an excuse, because as you get older and take on more and more responsibilities it will just get harder and harder. At 17 you are in a rather luxurious position.

As for training your legs, I'll let Big Ron field this one: http://pds6.egloos.com/pds/200709/21/67/e0010367_46f32571c251a.jpg

:D
 
okay as i mentioned u missed training triceps, calves, forearms, legs, so you need to start training these

you fail to do the important lifts like weighted pull ups, bench press, dips, deadlifts, squats, barbell shoulder press, skullcrushers, barbell curl etc

your training split sucks, train chest and back seperatly, u need rest days between chest, back and LEGS since u should be training legs

ur diet suks arse, u are unaware or ur protein consumptions carb consumptions and fats

you need ALOT more carbs, and i mean ALOT

ur protein intake is fine since all you seem to do is waste alot of money on shakes after shakes, 1-2 shakes a day is more then enough, try eating real food, u barely eat anything and are already relying on shakes


i could go on but the point is theres ALOT of problems ith your workout schedule and diet


now you need to start researching on the internet and learning how to train and eat to gain muscle

as for your ORIGINAL question, wat can i expect to gain?

youd be lucky to put on a few pounds in a year

but considering you go school id say puberty might make you agin abit more weight due to development of your body and height, but alwise nothing else

BUT heres a basic rule of thumb

en your correct your workout, and train properly, and start eating REAL food and not rely on shakes

heres a simple principle to follow if you wanna gain weight

weigh yourself every week, IF your nto gaining weight add more food into your daily diet

e.g if one week you dont gain any weight, add 1 extra cup of cereal to your breakfast bowl every day

the following week if you dont gain weight, add 1 more cup of cereal

eventually you will begin to gain weight, and depending on ho your training is ill determine whether its fat or muscle

Okay thanks for the tips, great advice. Really appreciated
 
Yeah I remember being 17, I had virtually no financial worries or responsibility and I had shit loads of free time! I am now 23, I am a lawyer and like moya above I often work 50 hours a week. I don't have kids but I have a lot more responsibility and a lot less free time than I did when I was 17 and in school, and I still have time to make all my meals.

Here's an idea, make your lunch the night before, so you don't have to get up any earlier. Or better yet, cook in bulk on Sunday night, make a big bunch of meals. Throw a portion/meal into a tupperware container the night before and just grab it on your way to school in the morning. Being 17 is simply not an excuse, because as you get older and take on more and more responsibilities it will just get harder and harder. At 17 you are in a rather luxurious position.

As for training your legs, I'll let Big Ron field this one:
:D

haha well I dont ALOT of free time but I see what you mean. Yes I will start making my meals the day before and get more of a meal in for breakfast.

lol at the Ronnie pic
 
as for my training routine Besides doing powerlifts like stronglifts suggests. There is no other kind of workout? The jacked guy doing db chest presses has a horrible training routine?
No, there really is no other workout. Power lifting and Olympic lifting are the base for all good workout routines. Yes, the jacked guy doing db chest presses has a horrible routine but, the rather normal looking guy in the corner snatching more than his body weight is onto something.

For the leg thing its because I play a lot of soccer and have always felt my legs were a lot stronger than my upper body ( I know they are suppose to be but mine was out ridiculous )
Your legs can never be too strong.
 
lol well I am 17 and I have to wake up and make my lunch before school starts as well as alot of things. I'm sure you were 17 at one point and realize what its like.

as for my training routine Besides doing powerlifts like stronglifts suggests. There is no other kind of workout? The jacked guy doing db chest presses has a horrible training routine?

For the leg thing its because I play a lot of soccer and have always felt my legs were a lot stronger than my upper body ( I know they are suppose to be but mine was out ridiculous )

So thanks for the tips but I seriously just cant make nice meals full of the nutrients needed. Maybe when i get home though

Sounds like a bit of attitude and pride here, yeah the jacked guy can do that because he's put his time in and is a big guy and knows what he's doing.

You need Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe and a gallon of milk a day. I'm doing it and have gone from 152-172 in around 3 months. All my lifts have consistently gone up and still are.

Also McDoubles and McChickens, around 400 calories each, 20+ grams of protein and plenty of carbs at a buck a piece. Pick up 3 of those a few times a week and between that and the chocolate milk you're adding 3700 calories to your diet and about 200 grams of protein. Do that for a few months and see how big you get.

Biggest thing is do your research, read as much as you can. I remember being 17 and in high school. Class was a breeze, I had a ton of time, and I had nothing to spend my money on. No excuses there.

Do a search for Starting Strength extremely straight forward. T-nation has a lot of good stuff on it, I'm not sure about here.

Eat big to get big, all there is to it.
 
Sounds like a bit of attitude and pride here, yeah the jacked guy can do that because he's put his time in and is a big guy and knows what he's doing.

You need Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe and a gallon of milk a day. I'm doing it and have gone from 152-172 in around 3 months. All my lifts have consistently gone up and still are.

Also McDoubles and McChickens, around 400 calories each, 20+ grams of protein and plenty of carbs at a buck a piece. Pick up 3 of those a few times a week and between that and the chocolate milk you're adding 3700 calories to your diet and about 200 grams of protein. Do that for a few months and see how big you get.

Biggest thing is do your research, read as much as you can. I remember being 17 and in high school. Class was a breeze, I had a ton of time, and I had nothing to spend my money on. No excuses there.

Do a search for Starting Strength extremely straight forward. T-nation has a lot of good stuff on it, I'm not sure about here.

Eat big to get big, all there is to it.

Sounds great thanks a lot. The reason you see the 'pride' I guess its because i'm not actually weak for my size and weight. I bench my own weight and I can squat more than my own weight. It's just I never seem to gain any mass from this increase of strength. I went from chest pressing 25 pounds Db's compared to doing 60s now as working weight.
Its really weird I know 60s isn't very heavy but I thought I would gain some sort of muscle
 
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