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How long is too long?

How long of a cycle is too long?

  • Nothing more than 6 weeks. Short is better!

    Votes: 7 4.2%
  • 8-10 weeks is as long as you should go

    Votes: 20 12.1%
  • 11-14 weeks

    Votes: 23 13.9%
  • 15-20 weeks

    Votes: 37 22.4%
  • 20+ weeks

    Votes: 52 31.5%
  • I never come off!

    Votes: 21 12.7%

  • Total voters
    165
emilio_rebenga said:
i just want to know who voted for less than 6 weeks..and why?
You might want to ask Wulfgar that question. On one of his threads, he wrote:
Wulfgar said:
I am still piecing together my mass phase

basically it will consist of running about 4 weeks of anabolic steroids(utilizing heavy Androgenic compounds first and tapering to higher anabolic compounds), 4 weeks of non-anabolic steroids type anabolic agents(gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - , T-3, creatine, etc...) and 4 weeks of cortisol/estrogen control all layered in to about 6-8 weeks and Ill repeat the process a few times until I feel ive gained sufficient mass
 
lookinfit75 said:
You might want to ask Wulfgar that question. On one of his threads, he wrote:

Re-read his post bro. I don't think it says his cycle is 6 weeks.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Re-read his post bro. I don't think it says his cycle is 6 weeks.
I didn't say six, the question was who would vote for a cylce less than 6 weeks so my reply was, ask Wulfgar. The steroid portion of his complete cycle is only 4 weeks. According to what I quoted above, he will be running a 4 week cycle of juice then 4 week cycle of non-juice stuff (gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - , T3, Creatine and what ever else it is that he deems fit during that cycle), and finally 4 weeks of cortisol/estrogen control. Nowhere in the post does it say that these smaller fractions will be run concurrently so according to my math, that means 4 weeks on the juice , 8 weeks off the juice, and repeat as nessecary and as long the doc says it's cool (he alluded to that in a later post within that thread, that he would continue that protocol as long as the doc say his numbers are on point) or his goal is achieved, which ever comes first right?
 
If you are still gaining, doesn't it make sense to continue?
To compensate for longer cycle, you can give more time off till you start next cycle.
 
i been on 500mg test ew for around 3 years i do cycles of other things but those i fallow the 8-12 week but always on test i was 140lbs 3 years ago now lean 185lbs have been up to 205lbs when bulking doc knows and said at that dose of test i should be fine till im 50 years old then maybe have some problems im 29 years old now do you think pro westlers come off i was watching a movie on the ultamete worier and one guy was on for 7 years also have you seen bigger,faster,stronger?
 
My Longest where always 12 weeks, 3rd one just started. Never had problems to recover. Off period is always 16 weeks minimum.
The more I grow the greater the libido even when I am off.
I do not agree with never off, for sure. Does any one start drinking alcohol daily with no breaks, and does not have liver and kidney issues? So depends on your goals why stay on for a long time!!!
 
I agree it depends on how big you want to be.

At some point you are going to pass your natural genetic limit on cycle after cycle. I think Nelson Montana said he believed you could keep 10% over your natural limit while off, but not much more.

That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

From what I have read and heard if you want to be YOKED and/or UBER strong you pretty much have to stay on year round.

You aren't gonna be a 250+ bodybuilder(in proportion to height) in fairly lean to real lean condition doing off and on cycles for the most part. Consider a guy that wants to be 235-245lbs and have 10% bodyfat at 5'8"-5'11".

That's fucking yoked by most peoples standards and that's also alot bigger muscular-wise than you typically see even genetically gifted natural guys at that height and bf%.

I just can't see getting really big AND being lean without pretty much being on most of the time instead of yo-yo'ing unless you have superman genetics.

This is just my guess and from what I have heard.

For a guy that just wants to be muscularly above average I wouldn't see the point of staying on for extended periods.
 
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